The Official February 2015 Study Group Forum

[Big Red]

SO what's everyone plan today? I'm considering taking out 3 LR sections from the fresh pile and seeing how I hold up back-back-back, but I'm not sure how down I am for all that BR.

[Smallville]

SO what's everyone plan today? I'm considering taking out 3 LR sections from the fresh pile and seeing how I hold up back-back-back, but I'm not sure how down I am for all that BR.

gotta print out more stuff, all out of sets to do besides some LG games so gunna do that, prob some NA stuff and maybe RC passages

[Dr. Nefario]

Gonna LG practice today on flights. Just gotta refresh. Haven't dedicated to LG in a while. Thinking about doing some stuff from newer tests.

[kang]

SO what's everyone plan today? I'm considering taking out 3 LR sections from the fresh pile and seeing how I hold up back-back-back, but I'm not sure how down I am for all that BR.

Just finished PT51 LG with -0 (thankfully I don't have to redo). Planning to take PT 72 LG again, 8 RC psgs to drill/review/analyze the crap out of. Then take PT65 RC timed + BR. woohoo. another fun day ahead...

[JackelJ]

SO what's everyone plan today? I'm considering taking out 3 LR sections from the fresh pile and seeing how I hold up back-back-back, but I'm not sure how down I am for all that BR.

I haven't BR'ed my PT from this weekend so hopefully I'll get to that tonight

[Big Red]

Gonna LG practice today on flights. Just gotta refresh. Haven't dedicated to LG in a while. Thinking about doing some stuff from newer tests.

How was Boston? People are better looking in Dallas, yes?

Also, where can I buy the newer tests? I kind of want to take the previous 3 to Kinkos or something to have it be an actual booklet, not sure if there's something special I need to do to make that happen.

[ilikebaseball]

2 passages, 15 LR questions, and then 10 LG sections for today.

#GamesDay

[JackelJ]

also lol just saw this
I'm going to be sad when everyone takes it in Feb and leaves me all alone

[nlee10]

also lol just saw this
I'm going to be sad when everyone takes it in Feb and leaves me all alone

I'm joining you in June if Feb unfortunately goes sour. lol

[JackelJ]

I'm joining you in June if Feb unfortunately goes sour. lol

It won't, you've been kicking LSAT butt

[penncon]

Hey guys, I'm still having timing issues in regards to LR. Timed I can go anywhere from -3 to -4 on each section. During BR, I usually go -2 to -4 for both sections. Do I just have to keep going at it until my timed scores and my blind review scores start to look the same? I have to admit when I time myself, I feel anxiety and rushed. I make small mistakes and don't fully digest the stimulus. I have yet to finish LR with significant time to spare (no more than a minute or two at most). Any advice? Did any of you have this issue too?

[Smallville]

I'm joining you in June if Feb unfortunately goes sour. lol

It won't, you've been kicking LSAT butt

[ilikebaseball]

Hey guys, I'm still having timing issues in regards to LR. Timed I can go anywhere from -3 to -4 on each section. During BR, I usually go -2 to -4 for both sections. Do I just have to keep going at it until my timed scores and my blind review scores start to look the same? I have to admit when I time myself, I feel anxiety and rushed. I make small mistakes and don't fully digest the stimulus. I have yet to finish LR with significant time to spare (no more than a minute or two at most). Any advice? Did any of you have this issue too?

Best way and most common sentiment to fix timing in LR is to try to complete the first 12 problems in 12 minutes... a minute a problem. Try that once, and see if your timing throughout the rest of the section is VASTLY improved (90% sure it will be). If not, come back and reassess

[JackelJ]

Jgoods are you not Jgoods anymore??

[Smallville]

Smallville are you now Smallville??

yes

[GreenTee]

Hey guys, I'm still having timing issues in regards to LR. Timed I can go anywhere from -3 to -4 on each section. During BR, I usually go -2 to -4 for both sections. Do I just have to keep going at it until my timed scores and my blind review scores start to look the same? I have to admit when I time myself, I feel anxiety and rushed. I make small mistakes and don't fully digest the stimulus. I have yet to finish LR with significant time to spare (no more than a minute or two at most). Any advice? Did any of you have this issue too?

Best way and most common sentiment to fix timing in LR is to try to complete the first 12 problems in 12 minutes... a minute a problem. Try that once, and see if your timing throughout the rest of the section is VASTLY improved (90% sure it will be). If not, come back and reassess

I agree with baseball that it's important to set timing goals for yourself midsection, but keep in mind that the LSAT is changing. LR sections in the 70s are much more likely to frontload difficult or time consuming questions, and you might encounter a harder question in the first 12 that you should definitely spend more than a minute on.

Also, setting timing goals alone will not help you with your timing problems. You get faster as you get better/more automatic at solving the questions. Timing is not about speed; it's about efficiency. This may seem counter-intuitive, but personally I found that doing high volumes of untimed drilling helped me internalize patterns to the point where I could fly through timed sections, since I knew exactly what to look for. So don't think of timing as a matter of speeding up. It's really not. You'll get better at timing as your problem solving and pattern recognition skills improve.

[JackelJ]

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[NL2424]

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[Smallville]

Smallville are you now Smallville??

yes

I don't like it. I will continue to refer to you as Smallville

awesome, thanks

[Smallville]

Hey guys, I'm still having timing issues in regards to LR. Timed I can go anywhere from -3 to -4 on each section. During BR, I usually go -2 to -4 for both sections. Do I just have to keep going at it until my timed scores and my blind review scores start to look the same? I have to admit when I time myself, I feel anxiety and rushed. I make small mistakes and don't fully digest the stimulus. I have yet to finish LR with significant time to spare (no more than a minute or two at most). Any advice? Did any of you have this issue too?

Best way and most common sentiment to fix timing in LR is to try to complete the first 12 problems in 12 minutes... a minute a problem. Try that once, and see if your timing throughout the rest of the section is VASTLY improved (90% sure it will be). If not, come back and reassess

I agree with baseball that it's important to set timing goals for yourself midsection, but keep in mind that the LSAT is changing. LR sections in the 70s are much more likely to frontload difficult or time consuming questions, and you might encounter a harder question in the first 12 that you should definitely spend more than a minute on.

Also, setting timing goals alone will not help you with your timing problems. You get faster as you get better/more automatic at solving the questions. Timing is not about speed; it's about efficiency. This may seem counter-intuitive, but personally I found that doing high volumes of untimed drilling helped me internalize patterns to the point where I could fly through timed sections, since I knew exactly what to look for. So don't think of timing as a matter of speeding up. It's really not. You'll get better at timing as your problem solving and pattern recognition skills improve.

Def agree, Ill get to question 12 and be at like 16min or so and then get to 19/20 and be right back on track

[nlee10]

*bigwalloftext*

Congrats! You sound like a completely different person compared to the last PT you took.

[ilikebaseball]

Hey guys, I'm still having timing issues in regards to LR. Timed I can go anywhere from -3 to -4 on each section. During BR, I usually go -2 to -4 for both sections. Do I just have to keep going at it until my timed scores and my blind review scores start to look the same? I have to admit when I time myself, I feel anxiety and rushed. I make small mistakes and don't fully digest the stimulus. I have yet to finish LR with significant time to spare (no more than a minute or two at most). Any advice? Did any of you have this issue too?

Best way and most common sentiment to fix timing in LR is to try to complete the first 12 problems in 12 minutes... a minute a problem. Try that once, and see if your timing throughout the rest of the section is VASTLY improved (90% sure it will be). If not, come back and reassess

I agree with baseball that it's important to set timing goals for yourself midsection, but keep in mind that the LSAT is changing. LR sections in the 70s are much more likely to frontload difficult or time consuming questions, and you might encounter a harder question in the first 12 that you should definitely spend more than a minute on.

Also, setting timing goals alone will not help you with your timing problems. You get faster as you get better/more automatic at solving the questions. Timing is not about speed; it's about efficiency. This may seem counter-intuitive, but personally I found that doing high volumes of untimed drilling helped me internalize patterns to the point where I could fly through timed sections, since I knew exactly what to look for. So don't think of timing as a matter of speeding up. It's really not. You'll get better at timing as your problem solving and pattern recognition skills improve.

Def agree, Ill get to question 12 and be at like 16min or so and then get to 19/20 and be right back on track

I always find 17-21 to be the most time consuming, by far. The questions at the end are usually LONGER, but I think that's to trick you into thinking its difficult when, if you simply read it all carefully, its relatively simple. But 12 is a good pace marker to start with, I think. Usually (even in today's PT's) there are probably 2-3 in the first 12 that may make you slow down, but there are also 5-6 where you read the stimulus and immediately know the answer without even reading the AC's. The better you get, the more efficient you get. But for now, I think that's a fine pace for the guy.

[JackelJ]

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[GreenTee]

I always find 17-21 to be the most time consuming, by far. The questions at the end are usually LONGER, but I think that's to trick you into thinking its difficult when, if you simply read it all carefully, its relatively simple. But 12 is a good pace marker to start with, I think. Usually (even in today's PT's) there are probably 2-3 in the first 12 that may make you slow down, but there are also 5-6 where you read the stimulus and immediately know the answer without even reading the AC's. The better you get, the more efficient you get. But for now, I think that's a fine pace for the guy.

Don't get me wrong; I think 12 in 12 is a fine timing goal to have. I'm just really wary of setting specific timing goals, since they might cause a test taker to freak out unnecessarily, or skip steps on challenging questions just because they happen to fall in the first half of the section.

I also agree that questions in the 16-22 range tend to be the most difficult and time consuming. But more and more, LSAC is throwing in a few tricky ones in the beginning, and making up for it with gimmes towards the end. It's just something to look out for.

[Smallville]

awesome, thanks

Smallville + Jacks sounds fine<3

agreed <3