The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS Forum

[Alexandros]

For those of you that are you doing 5 section PTs, are you putting in full effort on your experimental section when you already know it's your experimental section?

I mean...you probably should...or what's the point? haha.

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I mean I think there are probably some psychological factors there. I probably don't have the exact same mindset on experimental as I do on the 'real' sections, knowing it's experimental. But I try to put full effort in and forget that it's experimental.

[181plz]

I find myself having the most trouble with the physical science portion of reading comp. Anyone have any advice for this problem?

[34iplaw]

For those of you that are you doing 5 section PTs, are you putting in full effort on your experimental section when you already know it's your experimental section?

I mean...you probably should...or what's the point? haha.

Yeah I see what you mean but I feel like knowing beforehand that it's not going to contribute to the score has some sort of psychological effect on whether or not the level of exertion is equal. I'm definitely overthinking it

Oh - I mean I agree. I doubt you'll treat it *exactly* the same, but you shouldn't go into it with the mindset that you won't! I'd possibly maybe think of some way to punish yourself (or something you don't want to do) if you perform worse than average on the experimental section to motivate you... like handwrite why you missed every question on that section that you missed (if you don't do that already or if you type it up instead...writing it could be a bit of a punishment.)

For those of you that are you doing 5 section PTs, are you putting in full effort on your experimental section when you already know it's your experimental section?

I mean...you probably should...or what's the point? haha.

^
I mean I think there are probably some psychological factors there. I probably don't have the exact same mindset on experimental as I do on the 'real' sections, knowing it's experimental. But I try to put full effort in and forget that it's experimental.

Yeah - totally true. I just don't think you can go into it with the mindset it doesn't count. I kind of do it with LG. If I miss a question on a logic game during a diagnostic, I make myself eliminate every answer as well as pick the right one for the entire game...even if it is a kind of easy one.

[proteinshake]

For those of you that are you doing 5 section PTs, are you putting in full effort on your experimental section when you already know it's your experimental section?

I mean...you probably should...or what's the point? haha.

^
I mean I think there are probably some psychological factors there. I probably don't have the exact same mindset on experimental as I do on the 'real' sections, knowing it's experimental. But I try to put full effort in and forget that it's experimental.

I use a fresh section for my E, so I treat it like a drill. and I don't want to waste a drill!

[appind]

i'm finding some of the 7sage "difficulty ratings" for sections a bit misleading

7sage has

74 LG as 3-star
but 76 LG as 1-star, and 77-lg as 2-star

no way 74lg is more difficult than 76 (had a very hard g2 or g3) or 77 (dat notorious pattern g3). 74lg has no such difficult game.

anyone notice this?

[proteinshake]

i'm finding some of the 7sage "difficulty ratings" for sections a bit misleading

7sage has

74 LG as 3-star
but 76 LG as 1-star, and 77-lg as 2-star

no way 74lg is more difficult than 76 (had a very hard g2 or g3) or 77 (dat notorious pattern g3). 74lg has no such difficult game.

anyone notice this?

the difficulty is determined by how many questions 7Sage students miss (at least that how question difficulty is determined, so in assuming the section works the same way).

[appind]

holy crap

74.lr2.9 and 18 are so effing devious

interesting how lsat has changed in recent lr

[appind]

i'm finding some of the 7sage "difficulty ratings" for sections a bit misleading

7sage has

74 LG as 3-star
but 76 LG as 1-star, and 77-lg as 2-star

no way 74lg is more difficult than 76 (had a very hard g2 or g3) or 77 (dat notorious pattern g3). 74lg has no such difficult game.

anyone notice this?

the difficulty is determined by how many questions 7Sage students miss.

yeah, but not sure why 74 is rated more difficult than say 77

they should probably determine ratings based on certain percentile cutoff in pt score. because so many who have 7sage accounts may not be using them diligently or carefully in inputting scores.

also almost all RC sections (both old and new) are rated 5star, i guess 7sage students miss on average more on RC than LG

[ngogirl12]

That's hilarious
You'll be well-prepared in the unlikely event they decide to do a fashion shoot in your testing center, on test day.

Seriously.. I'm just glad that the internet (in my mom's place) started working up again. One of the makeup artists kept apologizing to me, so I was nice about it. But, still, that was the most random thing ever!

[ngogirl12]

I find myself having the most trouble with the physical science portion of reading comp. Anyone have any advice for this problem?

I was having this problem too, so I started reading Science journal articles, listening to Nature journal podcasts, and doing 7Sage's memory method.

I'm still not amazing at science passages, but my accuracy untimed has gone up dramatically!

[ngogirl12]

So I spent the day:

1) getting a jump start on my car, but then the car started making weird noises so I took it to the dealership, luckily they take care of these things for free! It needs a battery recharge, so I'll be getting my car back tomorrow.

2) finishing up reviewing Method of Reasoning questions. I'm legit sick and tired of doing these questions because I have spent several days on them. That said, I'm reviewing A LOT of the questions, not just ones I got wrong but questions that I was unsure of between two answer choices and still got right. There are one or two I'm not understanding, but for the most part I'm able to reason it out on my own.

I'm really hoping I'll finish up this question type (reviewing that is, already did all the questions) by tomorrow.

[appind]

So I spent the day:

1) getting a jump start on my car, but then the car started making weird noises so I took it to the dealership, luckily they take care of these things for free! It needs a battery recharge, so I'll be getting my car back tomorrow.

similar crap happened to me on saturday. car didn't start even with jumpstart as i was headed to library to pt. took train plus bus for the first time in years to study at library and back on sunday. got it fixed today, turned out to be a starter and battery cable issue. down $660.

[appind]

ooh, excited about doing 38 LG tomorrow morning

[galeatus]

Starting to run out of fresh PTs to do. Decided to hold off doing full PTs and just focus on drilling for the next few days, dunno if it's a good idea or not but it kinda makes sense - don't wanna waste a fresh PT unless I know I've made some progress with some specific Q types.

[Shemp]

PT 36 tonight: -2 LR, -1 LG for a 179. One of the LR mistakes was a bubbling error, otherwise -2 would be a 180.

That's the second time in a row that I've missed the last question on an LG section due to running out of time. I think I waste a couple minutes making sure I'm perfect on the first two games when I should trust myself more on the easy ones.

The bubbling error was super dumb and I had a few minutes of extra time to check and correct it but sat around scratching myself instead. I normally bubble after every two pages, but hit the five minute warning as I was finishing up the penultimate page, so I bubbled those ones in and then was going to do the last two individually. Did question 25, bubbled question 25. Did question 26, bubbled the answer to 25 in space 26 on the answer sheet and 26 into space 27. Bleh.

[Shemp]

If you really really want to have the truest simulation of the experimental section, get someone else to prepare your tests for you. Give them a selection of unused tests to choose an extra section from and have them use a random number generator to choose what type of section it will be and where to place it. Then get them to use one of those big paper cutters to chop off the top margin of all the pages so you won't notice that the section numbers are out of sequence and mark out any page numbers or other indicators with a sharpie.

But I think if you have the benefit of someone else who loves you enough, or can be bribed, to help you with LSAT stuff, it would probably be a better use of their time to have them correct your tests for you rather than prepare them. If they just marked your mistakes and you didn't know the correct answers, that would really facilitate blind review.

[StopLawying]

Massive migraine today and yesterday so haven't been able to do anything LSAT related. Just don't have the mental energy. Glad this isn't test day cuz I'd be screwed.

[Mikey]

For those of you that are you doing 5 section PTs, are you putting in full effort on your experimental section when you already know it's your experimental section?

I feel like people who don't, are just cheating themselves. The experimental section is still practice and people should review it as well.

[Mikey]

welp, back to the grind for me. did pt 54 LG yesterday untimed throughout the day for no reason lmfao. went -0 on it, but 7sage said -1 because i inputted the wrong answer and was like "hmm, i did it untimed throughout the day and didn't go -0, i'm an idiot", but was glad to see i put the wrong answer into 7sage, haha. the section was pretty easy, even though I did it timed i feel like i could've finished it before 35 mins.

going to go over some RC passages that i left scattered around from pt 40 and 54, do maybe 4 fresh rc passages, and 1 LR from pt 54. No LG today, i don't feel like playing games unless it's on xbox lul

[proteinshake]

I wish I could just show law schools my 7Sage Analytics instead of taking the actual LSAT

[20170322]

Wow, I am getting demolished by this prep. I think the 2 weeks off made me really rusty. I'm sure I can shake off the rust in 6 weeks, but still.

[Barack O'Drama]

I find myself having the most trouble with the physical science portion of reading comp. Anyone have any advice for this problem?

Yup. Don't think about the content. RC Arguments are cookie cutters! Learn the argument patterns that recur. Forget subject matter. It's all about argument.

[Barack O'Drama]

For those of you that are you doing 5 section PTs, are you putting in full effort on your experimental section when you already know it's your experimental section?

I feel like people who don't, are just cheating themselves. The experimental section is still practice and people should review it as well.

Veryyyy true. I think I am going to have my s/o pick a section out of a pile of unused sections. I want the extra practice, but I don't trust myself, lol.

[proteinshake]

PT 69:

Score 173

LR -2
LG -1
RC -4
LR -1

I knew my score was going to hinge on doing well on RC so I'm glad I didn't bomb it! felt like I was going to get a pretty good score during BR, the opposite of how I felt immediately after the test. gonna BR the Experimental after a workout.

[Mikey]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jameskicksa/35 ... .kv1n6kNdv

No lie, i sometimes daydream about logic games