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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS

Post by greatspirit » Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:14 pm

Alexandros wrote:
greatspirit wrote:
SweetTort wrote:Can someone explain PT 72, Section 4, Question 23 to me? I really don't understand why the correct answer is better than one of the other options.
SECONDED - Did this PT this weekend and the last LG just frightened me.
I think the correct answer for this one was correct because it's the only one that wouldn't result in an employee being unable to transfer their item to another employee without breaking any of the conditions.
[+] Spoiler
Cause if i'm remembering right they can only be transferred
M->J
J -> K/L
K -> L/M
L -> K/M
and you have to account for all of the employees working on an item.

Bless. You.

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS

Post by Instrumental » Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:15 pm

Made it through to all the questions on a PT for the first time. Small victory. Didn't do as well as I did on my previous test which is my best score so far though; I did pretty badly on one LR section and the RC. Especially concerning because I thought I did especially well on the last RC passage and actually performed horrendously. wtf.

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Post by proteinshake » Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:27 pm

just finished up PT 69. not sure how to feel. first LR was ehh, RC wasn't bad, feel pretty good about second LR, and went -1 on LG. the curve was -10 on this though so hopefully I didn't bomb any sections :shock:. gonna BR it tomorrow.

edit: according to 7Sage, first LR was easier than the second, I should probably spend more time warming up!

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Post by appind » Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:32 pm

greatspirit wrote:
SweetTort wrote:Can someone explain PT 72, Section 4, Question 23 to me? I really don't understand why the correct answer is better than one of the other options.
SECONDED - Did this PT this weekend and the last LG just frightened me.
Is this q23 in lr or lg? The section number 4 can be different for different people.

The choices in LG are always provable so there should not be a notion of "better" answer for LG.

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Post by proteinshake » Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:37 pm

just ordered the Mastermind Watch, will post my review when I use it on a PT!

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS

Post by Rupert Pupkin » Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:49 pm

proteinshake wrote:just ordered the Mastermind Watch, will post my review when I use it on a PT!

ooo please do! Was thinking about this today actually

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Post by proteinshake » Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:54 pm

jagerbom79 wrote:
proteinshake wrote:just ordered the Mastermind Watch, will post my review when I use it on a PT!

ooo please do! Was thinking about this today actually
I made a forum post where someone posted their review, which made me pull the trigger and buy it -- for some reason my iPhone won't let me copy and paste the link...

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Post by Alexandros » Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:58 pm

SweetTort wrote:
greatspirit wrote:
SweetTort wrote:Can someone explain PT 72, Section 4, Question 23 to me? I really don't understand why the correct answer is better than one of the other options.
SECONDED - Did this PT this weekend and the last LG just frightened me.
oh, my b, I was looking at the 5 section version. I'm talking about LR, so I guess 3rd section.
I think the key to this one is the specific wording of the first clause of the second sentence (in particular, "every" on the object - every B / every one of the SA)

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Post by Alexandros » Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:59 pm

greatspirit wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
greatspirit wrote:
SweetTort wrote:Can someone explain PT 72, Section 4, Question 23 to me? I really don't understand why the correct answer is better than one of the other options.
SECONDED - Did this PT this weekend and the last LG just frightened me.
I think the correct answer for this one was correct because it's the only one that wouldn't result in an employee being unable to transfer their item to another employee without breaking any of the conditions.
[+] Spoiler
Cause if i'm remembering right they can only be transferred
M->J
J -> K/L
K -> L/M
L -> K/M
and you have to account for all of the employees working on an item.

Bless. You.
Np. got murdered by this game first time round.

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS

Post by Alexandros » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:09 pm

Need to up the LR drilling. LR's cost me 3 - 5 points on each of the last 5 PTs. Need to get that down to 0-1. Got a bunch more sets printed out, and might go back to question type drilling.

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS

Post by appind » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:16 pm

Alexandros wrote:
SweetTort wrote:
greatspirit wrote:
SweetTort wrote:Can someone explain PT 72, Section 4, Question 23 to me? I really don't understand why the correct answer is better than one of the other options.
SECONDED - Did this PT this weekend and the last LG just frightened me.
oh, my b, I was looking at the 5 section version. I'm talking about LR, so I guess 3rd section.
I think the key to this one is the specific wording of the first clause of the second sentence (in particular, "every" on the object - every B / every one of the SA)
your section 3 could be either lr1 or lr2. For lr2, what's the issue with this q?
It seems C is clearly correct.

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Post by 20170322 » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:25 pm

appind wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
SweetTort wrote:
greatspirit wrote:
SweetTort wrote:Can someone explain PT 72, Section 4, Question 23 to me? I really don't understand why the correct answer is better than one of the other options.
SECONDED - Did this PT this weekend and the last LG just frightened me.
oh, my b, I was looking at the 5 section version. I'm talking about LR, so I guess 3rd section.
I think the key to this one is the specific wording of the first clause of the second sentence (in particular, "every" on the object - every B / every one of the SA)
your section 3 could be either lr1 or lr2. For lr2, what's the issue with this q?
It seems C is clearly correct.

I have now twice gotten it incorrect by putting A, after first circling C.

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS

Post by appind » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:27 pm

SweetTort wrote:
appind wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
SweetTort wrote:
greatspirit wrote:
SweetTort wrote:Can someone explain PT 72, Section 4, Question 23 to me? I really don't understand why the correct answer is better than one of the other options.
SECONDED - Did this PT this weekend and the last LG just frightened me.
oh, my b, I was looking at the 5 section version. I'm talking about LR, so I guess 3rd section.
I think the key to this one is the specific wording of the first clause of the second sentence (in particular, "every" on the object - every B / every one of the SA)
your section 3 could be either lr1 or lr2. For lr2, what's the issue with this q?
It seems C is clearly correct.

I have now twice gotten it incorrect by putting A, after first circling C.
Note that the premise in A has major movie as opposed to no qualification of the important role in the conclusion.

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS

Post by LSRAT » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:31 pm

proteinshake wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:
proteinshake wrote:just ordered the Mastermind Watch, will post my review when I use it on a PT!

ooo please do! Was thinking about this today actually
I made a forum post where someone posted their review, which made me pull the trigger and buy it -- for some reason my iPhone won't let me copy and paste the link...

Here ya go: "I bought this watch on a whim and I'm very pleased with its performance. I had the Perfect Score Watch (v1, I believe) and I wasn't impressed with the method of resetting the watch. Over time, the dial became harder to use and it was difficult to get it reset exactly to zero. When the mastermind watch first came, it wasn't calibrated correctly, but that was an easy enough fix. I got it in black (would probably recommend white. Seems like it would be easier to read, though I may just be used to the Perfect Score Watch). The only thing I don't like about it is that it has two separate dials, so to speak. The large hand counts the minutes on the outer edge of the watch while another, smaller hand counts seconds in a second circle, much like where you might find the date or month on some watches. Compared to the Perfect Score Watch, I think this is a drawback, since the minute hand does not move continuously or fluidly, but rather jumps to the next minute after 60 seconds have passed. It is also fairly expensive for a watch, but I have plenty of people in my undergrad program I could sell it to after the test is over. Overall, I think the benefits greatly outweigh those issues."

If you have any questions, let me know. I'm really liking the watch!

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Post by 20170322 » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:31 pm

appind wrote:
SweetTort wrote:
appind wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
SweetTort wrote:
greatspirit wrote:
SweetTort wrote:Can someone explain PT 72, Section 4, Question 23 to me? I really don't understand why the correct answer is better than one of the other options.
SECONDED - Did this PT this weekend and the last LG just frightened me.
oh, my b, I was looking at the 5 section version. I'm talking about LR, so I guess 3rd section.
I think the key to this one is the specific wording of the first clause of the second sentence (in particular, "every" on the object - every B / every one of the SA)
your section 3 could be either lr1 or lr2. For lr2, what's the issue with this q?
It seems C is clearly correct.

I have now twice gotten it incorrect by putting A, after first circling C.
Note that the premise in A has major movie as opposed to no qualification of the important role in the conclusion.
I'm still struggling on this one. So, A is like "so and so never gets X. This year, all of its things got Y. So, none of Y were X."

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Post by appind » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:42 pm

SweetTort wrote:
appind wrote:
SweetTort wrote:
appind wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
SweetTort wrote:
greatspirit wrote:
SECONDED - Did this PT this weekend and the last LG just frightened me.
oh, my b, I was looking at the 5 section version. I'm talking about LR, so I guess 3rd section.
I think the key to this one is the specific wording of the first clause of the second sentence (in particular, "every" on the object - every B / every one of the SA)
your section 3 could be either lr1 or lr2. For lr2, what's the issue with this q?
It seems C is clearly correct.

I have now twice gotten it incorrect by putting A, after first circling C.
Note that the premise in A has major movie as opposed to no qualification of the important role in the conclusion.
I'm still struggling on this one. So, A is like "so and so never gets X. This year, all of its things got Y. So, none of Y were X."
A would be correct if it had major movie instead of movie in the conclusion.

A is more like this: so and so never gets X in "major" Z. This year, all of its things got X. So none of these things were in Z.

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Post by Rupert Pupkin » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:44 pm

LSRAT wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:
proteinshake wrote:just ordered the Mastermind Watch, will post my review when I use it on a PT!

ooo please do! Was thinking about this today actually
I made a forum post where someone posted their review, which made me pull the trigger and buy it -- for some reason my iPhone won't let me copy and paste the link...

Here ya go: "I bought this watch on a whim and I'm very pleased with its performance. I had the Perfect Score Watch (v1, I believe) and I wasn't impressed with the method of resetting the watch. Over time, the dial became harder to use and it was difficult to get it reset exactly to zero. When the mastermind watch first came, it wasn't calibrated correctly, but that was an easy enough fix. I got it in black (would probably recommend white. Seems like it would be easier to read, though I may just be used to the Perfect Score Watch). The only thing I don't like about it is that it has two separate dials, so to speak. The large hand counts the minutes on the outer edge of the watch while another, smaller hand counts seconds in a second circle, much like where you might find the date or month on some watches. Compared to the Perfect Score Watch, I think this is a drawback, since the minute hand does not move continuously or fluidly, but rather jumps to the next minute after 60 seconds have passed. It is also fairly expensive for a watch, but I have plenty of people in my undergrad program I could sell it to after the test is over. Overall, I think the benefits greatly outweigh those issues."

If you have any questions, let me know. I'm really liking the watch!
Great- thanks for the review!

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Post by 34iplaw » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:47 pm

That fourth game on prep test C is weirdly uncomfortable. Like, I got through it and beat the JY time on first try without missing anything... but I kept feeling like... you're reversing the logic here... an interesting but kind of weird game.

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Post by greatspirit » Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:09 pm

Alexandros wrote:
greatspirit wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
greatspirit wrote:
SweetTort wrote:Can someone explain PT 72, Section 4, Question 23 to me? I really don't understand why the correct answer is better than one of the other options.
SECONDED - Did this PT this weekend and the last LG just frightened me.
I think the correct answer for this one was correct because it's the only one that wouldn't result in an employee being unable to transfer their item to another employee without breaking any of the conditions.
[+] Spoiler
Cause if i'm remembering right they can only be transferred
M->J
J -> K/L
K -> L/M
L -> K/M
and you have to account for all of the employees working on an item.

Bless. You.
Np. got murdered by this game first time round.
Are there any other LGs you've come across with a similar format to this one? Even the 7sage review mentioned the rarity of this LG-type.

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Post by Alexandros » Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:32 pm

Can anyone help me with 75.3.13? Still confused.
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eta: I think I got it, but not totally satisfied : "In the interest of the economy" gives a different explanation for why the teaching assistants perform services for the university. So the sole purpose is not to enable them to fund their education.

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Post by Alexandros » Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:49 pm

34iplaw wrote:That fourth game on prep test C is weirdly uncomfortable. Like, I got through it and beat the JY time on first try without missing anything... but I kept feeling like... you're reversing the logic here... an interesting but kind of weird game.
That game reminded me of the bike game on 64.

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Post by Alexandros » Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:50 pm

greatspirit wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
greatspirit wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
greatspirit wrote:
SweetTort wrote:Can someone explain PT 72, Section 4, Question 23 to me? I really don't understand why the correct answer is better than one of the other options.
SECONDED - Did this PT this weekend and the last LG just frightened me.
I think the correct answer for this one was correct because it's the only one that wouldn't result in an employee being unable to transfer their item to another employee without breaking any of the conditions.
[+] Spoiler
Cause if i'm remembering right they can only be transferred
M->J
J -> K/L
K -> L/M
L -> K/M
and you have to account for all of the employees working on an item.

Bless. You.
Np. got murdered by this game first time round.
Are there any other LGs you've come across with a similar format to this one? Even the 7sage review mentioned the rarity of this LG-type.
Can't think of any tbh. :|

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Post by tofuspeedstar » Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:58 pm

Just finished PT66. Still need to review my BR of 64 today.

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Post by 20170322 » Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:01 pm


I have now twice gotten it incorrect by putting A, after first circling C.
Note that the premise in A has major movie as opposed to no qualification of the important role in the conclusion.[/quote]

I'm still struggling on this one. So, A is like "so and so never gets X. This year, all of its things got Y. So, none of Y were X."[/quote]

A would be correct if it had major movie instead of movie in the conclusion.

A is more like this: so and so never gets X in "major" Z. This year, all of its things got X. So none of these things were in Z.[/quote]

GOTCHA. That's the part I was missing. Thanks!

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Post by LobLaw_LawFirm » Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:04 pm

First time poster, but question for you all...

How are you scheduling out your final PTs? I have not touched 71-78 for the reason I don't want to burn through them too far out from the test date.

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

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