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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by The Abyss » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:36 pm

Big Red wrote:
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The Abyss wrote:It's a great deal. I subscribed earlier this week and I hope it helps me with RC. I plan on reading either the Economist or any given German philosopher who is a pain to read (I'm looking at you Hegel, Kant and Heidegger) every night making it a point to really understand what is being said and then quiz myself on it. I figure reading difficult material and material similar to the RC sections can only help.
The issue with philosophy: open to interpretation.

The good thing with Economist: it's all facts, much like the RC sections.

I would not recommend reading philosophy as RC prep. Do non-fiction instead. The German philosophers you're talking about all talk about metaphysical stuff anyway - which is ALL interpretation and speculative.
I know that philosophy is all interpretation, I was going to read it to build the mental endurance and strengthen my ability to follow dense material. German philosophers are notoriously bad writers/badly translated much like most of the RC passages are poorly written. Maybe it isn't a good idea, but I thought it would help.
You might as well pick up Infinite Jest if you want density, knock out two birds with one stone
I'll go one step further and read Finnegans Wake.

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by ilikebaseball » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:40 pm

so pissed. My roommate accidentally threw away the PT i was gonna do today. I'm livid right now

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by foamborn » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:41 pm

The Abyss wrote:It's a great deal. I subscribed earlier this week and I hope it helps me with RC. I plan on reading either the Economist or any given German philosopher who is a pain to read (I'm looking at you Hegel, Kant and Heidegger) every night making it a point to really understand what is being said and then quiz myself on it. I figure reading difficult material and material similar to the RC sections can only help.
i was reading heidegger at the time i was studying for the lsat. on days after i read H my PT scores would drop. so i gave that up.

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Post by pjanderson5 » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:42 pm

Is there anyone with anecdotal evidence that the Economist helped them in RC? I listened to a ThinkingLSAT podcast and they basically scoffed at the idea and said you should just use one of the 74 PT's because that's what you'll see on test day. I figure it can't hurt though, right?

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by The Abyss » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:45 pm

foamborn wrote:
The Abyss wrote:It's a great deal. I subscribed earlier this week and I hope it helps me with RC. I plan on reading either the Economist or any given German philosopher who is a pain to read (I'm looking at you Hegel, Kant and Heidegger) every night making it a point to really understand what is being said and then quiz myself on it. I figure reading difficult material and material similar to the RC sections can only help.
i was reading heidegger at the time i was studying for the lsat. on days after i read H my PT scores would drop. so i gave that up.
I've only read Introduction to Metaphysics and that got thrown in the fireplace after a few reads. It made my head hurt.

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:47 pm

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by pjanderson5 » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:50 pm

Dirigo wrote:
pjanderson5 wrote:Is there anyone with anecdotal evidence that the Economist helped them in RC? I listened to a ThinkingLSAT podcast and they basically scoffed at the idea and said you should just use one of the 74 PT's because that's what you'll see on test day. I figure it can't hurt though, right?
Obviously the best way to prep for RC is to do RC sections, but the Economist is well-regarded as an additional prep tool because it's written in the same fashion that RC sections are.

User PnJ has used the Economist for prep and recommends it.
Awesome. I have also heard of people reading Court opinions and brief summaries as well. Let us know how the Economist works out.

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by Smallville » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:16 pm

First time using the jaybirds, so far I approve... Also have some parallel method of reasoning with me :mrgreen:

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by nlee10 » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:19 pm

Jgoods wrote:First time using the jaybirds, so far I approve... Also have some parallel method of reasoning with me :mrgreen:
So tempted.....

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by GreenTee » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:23 pm

Dirigo wrote:
pjanderson5 wrote:Is there anyone with anecdotal evidence that the Economist helped them in RC? I listened to a ThinkingLSAT podcast and they basically scoffed at the idea and said you should just use one of the 74 PT's because that's what you'll see on test day. I figure it can't hurt though, right?
Obviously the best way to prep for RC is to do RC sections, but the Economist is well-regarded as an additional prep tool because it's written in the same fashion that RC sections are.

User PnJ has used the Economist for prep and recommends it.
Yeah, it's definitely a good idea, as long as you're just supplementing your prep, rather than considering it a part of your prep. If you're reading the economist when you could otherwise be drilling actual RC passages, you're doing yourself a disservice.

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by JackelJ » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:33 pm

nlee10 wrote:
Jgoods wrote:First time using the jaybirds, so far I approve... Also have some parallel method of reasoning with me :mrgreen:
So tempted.....
Me too
Studying while you workout?

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by Smallville » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:35 pm

JackelJ wrote:
nlee10 wrote:
Jgoods wrote:First time using the jaybirds, so far I approve... Also have some parallel method of reasoning with me :mrgreen:
So tempted.....
Me too
Doing studying while you workout?
Was gonna do problems in between sets but the packet I grabbed I already did earlier in the week -_- n don't wanna run upstairs for a new one lol

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by JackelJ » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:39 pm

Jgoods wrote:
JackelJ wrote:
nlee10 wrote:
Jgoods wrote:First time using the jaybirds, so far I approve... Also have some parallel method of reasoning with me :mrgreen:
So tempted.....
Me too
Doing studying while you workout?
Was gonna do problems in between sets but the packet I grabbed I already did earlier in the week -_- n don't wanna run upstairs for a new one lol
Haha you're working out, yet don't want to go up the stairs
sounds like a resolve the paradox question

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by Smallville » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:42 pm

JackelJ wrote:
Jgoods wrote: Was gonna do problems in between sets but the packet I grabbed I already did earlier in the week -_- n don't wanna run upstairs for a new one lol
Haha you're working out, yet don't want to go up the stairs
sounds like a resolve the paradox question
Haha :oops:

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by RZ5646 » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:57 pm

I'll chime in regarding outside reading material.

First, I've read the Economist for a couple years now and agree that it's a great resource. Their articles really are eerily similar to RC passages in length, tone, structure, etc., and they're actually my favorite source of news and analysis. In my opinion, nearly all of the American news sources that are easily accessible (i.e., don't have paywalls) are too specialized, biased, clickbaity, and/or pandering.

Second, I wouldn't force myself through German philosophers just for the sake of LSAT prep. I've read Kant for four semesters now (including most of the CPR), and while I think it has improved my reading ability, there are much more efficient means of studying. If you can read such things for fun or need to for school, then go for it, but as a prep technique the cost/benefit probably won't work out. The most important thing is just reading in general, so there's nothing wrong with choosing easier / less painful books if that means you will actually read them.

Can anyone with a print Economist subscription tell me how it compares to the digital experience? Is it much better?

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by ilikebaseball » Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:06 pm

I've heard good things about the RC passages, but I figure I'd just print out all the RCs if I wanna do that cuz I own all the PTs anyway lol. What could be better than the real deal?

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by The Abyss » Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:11 pm

RZ5646 wrote:I'll chime in regarding outside reading material.

First, I've read the Economist for a couple years now and agree that it's a great resource. Their articles really are eerily similar to RC passages in length, tone, structure, etc., and they're actually my favorite source of news and analysis. In my opinion, nearly all of the American news sources that are easily accessible (i.e., don't have paywalls) are too specialized, biased, clickbaity, and/or pandering.

Second, I wouldn't force myself through German philosophers just for the sake of LSAT prep. I've read Kant for four semesters now (including most of the CPR), and while I think it has improved my reading ability, there are much more efficient means of studying. If you can read such things for fun or need to for school, then go for it, but as a prep technique the cost/benefit probably won't work out. The most important thing is just reading in general, so there's nothing wrong with choosing easier / less painful books if that means you will actually read them.

Can anyone with a print Economist subscription tell me how it compares to the digital experience? Is it much better?
It would be for fun/supplemental if I was reading any philosophy these next couple of months. I'm not replacing drilling actual RC sections with any reading. I just figured it wouldn't hurt to read 25-50 pages of the economist, philosophy, court opinions, or whatever to improve my general reading abilities.

As for the Economist, I always prefer hard copies. Back lit screens hurt my eyes, and besides the Economist app is awful. The content is the same for the most part. However, one nice feature of their digital sub is their new "espresso" app with daily morning briefings. I've found it this past week to be a good way to get the mind working in the morning with a cup of coffee.

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by nlee10 » Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:40 pm

getting close to finishing my BR.....I can feel a good score guys! :mrgreen:

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Post by Smallville » Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:56 pm

nlee10 wrote:getting close to finishing my BR.....I can feel a good score guys! :mrgreen:
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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by The Abyss » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:56 pm

zacboro wrote:PS- does anyone read question then stim for LR?
I always read the q-stem before the stim.

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by Smallville » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:56 pm

zacboro wrote:PS- does anyone read question then stim for LR?
I do

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