The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS Forum

[Alexandros]

See a lot of people who took PT 64 recently so figured I'd post my score. The curve was really generous though, so I'm not sure if my score is a good indicator of where I am at this point. Came off a 166 on PT 45 recently so nice to see some improvement at least.
PT 64:
LR:-3
LG:-5
LR:-2
RC:-3
Total: 170
Thrilled with the LR and RC scores, and pissed about LG. That bike game, had to guess on like 4 questions.

Congrats! Curve was definitely generous but I don't think it was insanely/unusually so, so I'd say that's a fair indicator.
Not a fan of the games on this one. :/

[Alexandros]

YOU CAN'T DRINK WATER DURING THE LSAT.
This is fine. This is fine. This is fine.
(but how am I going to... stay... hydrated...)

[proteinshake]

YOU CAN'T DRINK WATER DURING THE LSAT.
This is fine. This is fine. This is fine.
(but how am I going to... stay... hydrated...)

last time I took the LSAT I woke up at 5:30 and drank 24 oz

[Shemp]

Just take a huge gulp before you start and hold it in your cheeks, then swallow sips as needed. You only need to hold it for 1:45 at a time because you can get another swig during the break.

[Rupert Pupkin]

YOU CAN'T DRINK WATER DURING THE LSAT.
This is fine. This is fine. This is fine.
(but how am I going to... stay... hydrated...)

last time I took the LSAT I woke up at 5:30 and drank 24 oz

El oh el.... WE are really training for war aren't we..?

[proteinshake]

YOU CAN'T DRINK WATER DURING THE LSAT.
This is fine. This is fine. This is fine.
(but how am I going to... stay... hydrated...)

last time I took the LSAT I woke up at 5:30 and drank 24 oz

El oh el....

soon enough to where by the time you're sitting for the actual thing, you won't have to use the bathroom every 30 minutes

get your water in early!

[Rupert Pupkin]

YOU CAN'T DRINK WATER DURING THE LSAT.
This is fine. This is fine. This is fine.
(but how am I going to... stay... hydrated...)

last time I took the LSAT I woke up at 5:30 and drank 24 oz

El oh el....

soon enough to where by the time you're sitting for the actual thing, you won't have to use the bathroom every 30 minutes

get your water in early!

Yeah, I am more worried about having to go to the bathroom all the time vs. being parched. I can mentally block being thirsty for a few hours, but when you gotta pee you gotta pee!

[proteinshake]

YOU CAN'T DRINK WATER DURING THE LSAT.
This is fine. This is fine. This is fine.
(but how am I going to... stay... hydrated...)

last time I took the LSAT I woke up at 5:30 and drank 24 oz

El oh el....

soon enough to where by the time you're sitting for the actual thing, you won't have to use the bathroom every 30 minutes

get your water in early!

Yeah, I am more worried about having to go to the bathroom all the time vs. being parched. I can mentally block being thirsty for a few hours, but when you gotta pee you gotta pee!

adrenaline will save you.

[Rupert Pupkin]

YOU CAN'T DRINK WATER DURING THE LSAT.
This is fine. This is fine. This is fine.
(but how am I going to... stay... hydrated...)

last time I took the LSAT I woke up at 5:30 and drank 24 oz

El oh el....

soon enough to where by the time you're sitting for the actual thing, you won't have to use the bathroom every 30 minutes

get your water in early!

Yeah, I am more worried about having to go to the bathroom all the time vs. being parched. I can mentally block being thirsty for a few hours, but when you gotta pee you gotta pee!

adrenaline will save you.

[Pozzo]

Just did some older games from PT 38. Game 4 is real weird. Powered my way through, but untimed. That would have been a doozie timed.

[Shemp]

Yeah, I did PT 38 a couple nights ago and was fully doozed.

[appind]

did pt 27 rc today, my first rc section in the about last 4 months.

-6 in 38:30 min

it's nowhere close to how i was doing on rc before the break in prep and did no warmup or such, so hope to be doing better soon. found p2 about hopi names to be sorta tough, somewhat uncharacteristic of rc in such an old pt.

76 lg:
-1 in 34:30 min. welp, that g3 is a bear.

[Mikey]

[Instrumental]

Was going to post this yesterday, but I noticed on PT34, in the fourth logic game, there are conditional statements that cause inherent contradictions. Doesn't prevent you from answering the questions, but it's strange to me that they'd allow it.

Also, I would like to say that I hate those "which dialogue parallels the logic used in the previous statements" questions. They are usually long, awkwardly worded, obvious time sinks.

[Rupert Pupkin]

How was your weekend mate?

[ngogirl12]

I'm far from the highest scorer here, so my advice may not be best. That said, I think you would probably be better off just reasoning through why each answer choice is wrong and each answer choice right. You miss relatively few (like myself) which means you likely remember when you missed a question in most circumstances. I think that makes it less beneficial to simply redo them.

There are a few others that you should learn. Also, recognize that a flaw has to be wrong to be a flaw. There is a *really* easy part to whole question that I got wrong just because one answer was clearly a part to whole idea but it was correct... so it wasn't a flaw. Really irritating.

With methods of reasoning, I don't know why I'm having trouble recollecting them. I guess it's just that they are a lot less common than flawed methods. I feel like flawed ones will help you. I'll have to review methods of reasoning I guess Ones that come to mind...

positive structure (A->B, have A, so B)

contrapositive structure (A->B, don't have A, so don't have B)

either or inclusive of all situations (A or B or C which are *all* possible outcomes, not A not B, so C)

and some others are just more flat out descriptive/correct methods of argument that are often used in a flaw way...

citing statistical evidence, a valid expert, drawing a conclusion from a representative sample, etc.

Yeah, I think I'm going to just reason through the ones I got wrong instead of redoing them, when I see questions that JY did in the lesson I usually remember the correct answer. I know most of those structures from the Valid/Invalid argument lessons but I had forgotten about the part to whole flaw. I think JY should have probably put this lesson after the flaws lesson, oh well.

Thanks for this! Today will be reviewing day for me.

[ngogirl12]

YOU CAN'T DRINK WATER DURING THE LSAT.
This is fine. This is fine. This is fine.
(but how am I going to... stay... hydrated...)

This is soo true. I'm trying to incorporate drinking more water into my schedule (I'm really bad at drinking water) and I notice almost immediately after drinking a glass or eating an orange, I need to use the bathroom.

I'm kind of worried about this because water is supposed to hydrate the brain and help it operate smoothly.

[dietcoke1]

PT 70

LR - 2
RC - 5
LG - 1
LR - 0

Raw: 93
173

I'm not sure what it's going to take to consistently get my RC down to -2 or -3 but still have 40 something days to figure it out I guess

[34iplaw]

PT 70

LR - 2
RC - 5
LG - 1
LR - 0

Raw: 93
173

I'm not sure what it's going to take to consistently get my RC down to -2 or -3 but still have 40 something days to figure it out I guess

Just did the same PT. I got shredded on the second LR. I think it's because my diagnostic was RC-RC-LR and I just didn't come close to finishing it. My first LR score is typically *much* stronger than my second, and I really can't explain the disparity.

RC -5; EXP RC -3; LR1 -1; LR2 -9; LG -2

I don't really understand what happened with that second LR section. I mean. I do... I didn't get to 20,21,22,23.

[proteinshake]

PT 70

LR - 2
RC - 5
LG - 1
LR - 0

Raw: 93
173

I'm not sure what it's going to take to consistently get my RC down to -2 or -3 but still have 40 something days to figure it out I guess

Just did the same PT. I got shredded on the second LR. I think it's because my diagnostic was RC-RC-LR and I just didn't come close to finishing it. My first LR score is typically *much* stronger than my second, and I really can't explain the disparity.

LR1 -1; LR2 -9 [wtf...still not convinced I entered it on the scoring service correctly]
RC -5; EXP RC -3
LG -2 (I don't even know what happened...I actually started 2 and 3, skipped both after the first two questions, did 4 and came back and still finished early...I think my mind just was off.)

second LR section was definitely super tough, I went -4 on that one.

[34iplaw]

PT 70

LR - 2
RC - 5
LG - 1
LR - 0

Raw: 93
173

I'm not sure what it's going to take to consistently get my RC down to -2 or -3 but still have 40 something days to figure it out I guess

Just did the same PT. I got shredded on the second LR. I think it's because my diagnostic was RC-RC-LR and I just didn't come close to finishing it. My first LR score is typically *much* stronger than my second, and I really can't explain the disparity.

LR1 -1; LR2 -9 [wtf...still not convinced I entered it on the scoring service correctly]
RC -5; EXP RC -3
LG -2 (I don't even know what happened...I actually started 2 and 3, skipped both after the first two questions, did 4 and came back and still finished early...I think my mind just was off.)

second LR section was definitely super tough, I went -4 on that one.

I need some endurance / when to move on strategy... I'll need to go back over it. -1 and -9 seems to be a bit of a drastic swing.

[Alexandros]

Just completely fucked over RC on 75 (and 75 in general). Lulz.

So frigign' glad I'll be able to retake this thing.

Keep at it, y'all. Stay steady. Those points will come.

[Alexandros]

Just take a huge gulp before you start and hold it in your cheeks, then swallow sips as needed. You only need to hold it for 1:45 at a time because you can get another swig during the break.

It's a plan.

[proteinshake]

gonna take PT 69 tomorrow. 6 weeks left!

[theboringest]

170 on preptest 65. I absolutely bombed game 4- the way I diagrammed totally contradicted how questions were worded and threw me off. Nasty surprise because I thought I'd gotten them all too. Stupid mistake. Also is it just me or is that RC section unusually difficult? I'm mostly good for -1 on RC but I went -3 on this one.

Not optimistic I'll hit my 173 goal by September, but we'll see. Trying to decide if I should abandon my LR prep entirely for LG or keep studying both.