real The Official December 2016 Waiters Group - Patience is a Virtue Forum

[SunDevil14]

Knew I felt a heater coming on. A new personal best.

PT 34: 172
RC -4
LR -4
LR -3
LG -0

[Nik9639]

Removed.

[SunDevil14]

Knew I felt a heater coming on. A new personal best.

PT 34: 172
RC -4
LR -4
LR -3
LG -0

Nice! Timed in one go? Or section by section?

I'm doing 32 tomorrow, 33 on Monday and 34 on Thursday. I'll try my best to catch up lol.

So far I've been trying to do full PT timed, 1 day to review questions where I wasn't sure, 1 day to drill my weakest link based on 7Sage analytics tool. Repeat. I think I'll stop dills as I get over that 170 bump and switch to full PT every other day. As timing becoming more of the issue, and I'm losing points because I'm not skipping questions I should've. And need to speedup on LG a bit, since I've ignored LG all together and naturally getting -5 at worst, should be easy few point for grabs here.

Yes. Timed in one go.

[Nik9639]

Removed.

[Barack O'Drama]

Knew I felt a heater coming on. A new personal best.

PT 34: 172
RC -4
LR -4
LR -3
LG -0

Nice! Timed in one go? Or section by section?

I'm doing 32 tomorrow, 33 on Monday and 34 on Thursday. I'll try my best to catch up lol.

So far I've been trying to do full PT timed, 1 day to review questions where I wasn't sure, 1 day to drill my weakest link based on 7Sage analytics tool. Repeat. I think I'll stop dills as I get over that 170 bump and switch to full PT every other day. As timing becoming more of the issue, and I'm losing points because I'm not skipping questions I should've. And need to speedup on LG a bit, since I've ignored LG all together and naturally getting -5 at worst, should be easy few point for grabs here.

Yes. Timed in one go.

Great stuff, SunDevil! Congrats on hitting a sexy 172!

[Deardevil]

Knew I felt a heater coming on. A new personal best.

PT 34: 172
RC -4
LR -4
LR -3
LG -0

Killin' it!

[Greenteachurro]

Aight Joining the December train preemptively after September.

[tskela]

Knew I felt a heater coming on. A new personal best.

PT 34: 172
RC -4
LR -4
LR -3
LG -0

this distribution is v appealing to me. it won't be too difficult to improve on -7 LR

[WWhitman]

The moment you realize that you have done every single logic game from test 1 to 70. Some once, others twice, and even more times..

And for the 7sagers out there, the moment you realize that in the past few months you've spent more time JY then some of your friends...

The tough but simple key to getting good at LG is to do them all, and then do any particular game again if at first it wasn't easy. This is coming from a guy that initially struggled to get through 2 games in 35 minutes, and now routinely gets -0 on all 4 games with minutes to spare. To anyone struggling with LG don't lose hope, stay dedicate, stay hungry, it can be done.

JY Is my boy (I watch his LG videos)...I swear when Im doing a game now I do everything exactly like he does and even in his voice lol

He's the angel on my shoulder any time I have a mental lapse during a game.

Yes he is indeed. Im hoping he guided me through the Virus game as he always does lol

Hardest part of my prep is when I play a game (that I thought was pretty difficult) and head over to JY's explanation and he STARTS the video with "this is actually a really easy game and shouldn't take longer than 5 or 6min" and I just tear up a bit... HAHAHA

[WWhitman]

Ugh,

Just did the RC sections in PT 21 and 22, and got and -7 and -6 in 43 mins. Not sure what to make of this... Anyone?

RC is kicking my butt too. I finally went -5 and that was a miracle.

The LSAT Trainer's RC section helped me a bit. Manhattan RC. 7Sage's memory method. I kind of mixed them all together and hopefully, with some practice, I can get RC down.

Nicole Hopkins RC webinar helped me quite a bit too.

Am I wasting valuable time by doing BR (blind review) on every individual section I tackle?! I know it's a must when taking full PTs. But I just keep finding myself losing so much time whenever I'm doing BRs on sections.

[WWhitman]

Ugh,

Just did the RC sections in PT 21 and 22, and got and -7 and -6 in 43 mins. Not sure what to make of this... Anyone?

RC is kicking my butt too. I finally went -5 and that was a miracle.

The LSAT Trainer's RC section helped me a bit. Manhattan RC. 7Sage's memory method. I kind of mixed them all together and hopefully, with some practice, I can get RC down.

Nicole Hopkins RC webinar helped me quite a bit too.

Am I wasting valuable time by doing BR (blind review) on every individual section I tackle?! I know BRs a must when taking full PTs. But I just keep finding myself losing so much time whenever I'm doing BR by sections.

[SunDevil14]

Thanks for the Props on the 172 guys.

[SunDevil14]

Knew I felt a heater coming on. A new personal best.

PT 34: 172
RC -4
LR -4
LR -3
LG -0

this distribution is v appealing to me. it won't be too difficult to improve on -7 LR

I agree. At this point its, not so much a particular question types but rather "difficult" questions. 20-26. Still trying to work out the perfect balance of finishing on time and giving questions 20-26 additional time and scrutiny.

[tskela]

Knew I felt a heater coming on. A new personal best.

PT 34: 172
RC -4
LR -4
LR -3
LG -0

this distribution is v appealing to me. it won't be too difficult to improve on -7 LR

I agree. At this point its, not so much a particular question types but rather "difficult" questions. 20-26. Still trying to work out the perfect balance of finishing on time and giving questions 20-26 additional time and scrutiny.

You've probably already heard this, but definitely do not hesitate to skip a question if you've read it twice and the right answer still hasn't become readily apparent. I'm talking, like, if you've spent 60 seconds on it already, move tf on. Coming back to it with fresh(er) eyes when I'm done the rest of the questions often helps me see whatever it was I missed the first time without having to agonize over it. More of an aha moment

[SunDevil14]

Knew I felt a heater coming on. A new personal best.

PT 34: 172
RC -4
LR -4
LR -3
LG -0

this distribution is v appealing to me. it won't be too difficult to improve on -7 LR

I agree. At this point its, not so much a particular question types but rather "difficult" questions. 20-26. Still trying to work out the perfect balance of finishing on time and giving questions 20-26 additional time and scrutiny.

You've probably already heard this, but definitely do not hesitate to skip a question if you've read it twice and the right answer still hasn't become readily apparent. I'm talking, like, if you've spent 60 seconds on it already, move tf on. Coming back to it with fresh(er) eyes when I'm done the rest of the questions often helps me see whatever it was I missed the first time without having to agonize over it. More of an aha moment

I am going to try skipping more often. More often than not, I get the first 20 questions right without much of an issue. Occasionally I will miss one in the later teens, and perhaps this is where I can pick up some slack. Maybe sacrifice a question here to get 2 on the back end.

[Barack O'Drama]

Ugh,

Just did the RC sections in PT 21 and 22, and got and -7 and -6 in 43 mins. Not sure what to make of this... Anyone?

RC is kicking my butt too. I finally went -5 and that was a miracle.

The LSAT Trainer's RC section helped me a bit. Manhattan RC. 7Sage's memory method. I kind of mixed them all together and hopefully, with some practice, I can get RC down.

Nicole Hopkins RC webinar helped me quite a bit too.

Am I wasting valuable time by doing BR (blind review) on every individual section I tackle?! I know it's a must when taking full PTs. But I just keep finding myself losing so much time whenever I'm doing BRs on sections.

No, it is 100% without a doubt in my opinion worth it. It is where you truly are going to break down the arguments or games or passage and dissect your approach. Ultimately, your goal is to get good at taking the LSAT - a timed exam. However, part of that is doing a thorough BR after every timed section. Every time you get a question wrong, you have really made 2 errors. First, you eliminated the TCR. Second, you reasoned incorrectly and chose a wrong answer. During BR you need to explore and rectify the faulty thinking that led you to a wrong answer.

It is very time-consuming, so you may want to just watch the 7Sage LG videos and fool-proof them afterwards.... I do that and it saved me time. But for LR/RC I wholeheartedly recommend spending the extra time to BR - it will not be something you regret doing come game day!

Don't look at it as losing time, but rather a very useful tried and true prep method.

[WWhitman]

Ugh,

Just did the RC sections in PT 21 and 22, and got and -7 and -6 in 43 mins. Not sure what to make of this... Anyone?

RC is kicking my butt too. I finally went -5 and that was a miracle.

The LSAT Trainer's RC section helped me a bit. Manhattan RC. 7Sage's memory method. I kind of mixed them all together and hopefully, with some practice, I can get RC down.

Nicole Hopkins RC webinar helped me quite a bit too.

Am I wasting valuable time by doing BR (blind review) on every individual section I tackle?! I know it's a must when taking full PTs. But I just keep finding myself losing so much time whenever I'm doing BRs on sections.

No, it is 100% without a doubt in my opinion worth it. It is where you truly are going to break down the arguments or games or passage and dissect your approach. Ultimately, your goal is to get good at taking the LSAT - a timed exam. However, part of that is doing a thorough BR after every timed section. Every time you get a question wrong, you have really made 2 errors. First, you eliminated the TCR. Second, you reasoned incorrectly and chose a wrong answer. During BR you need to explore and rectify the faulty thinking that led you to a wrong answer.

It is very time-consuming, so you may want to just watch the 7Sage LG videos and fool-proof them afterwards.... I do that and it saved me time. But for LR/RC I wholeheartedly recommend spending the extra time to BR - it will not be something you regret doing come game day!

Don't look at it as losing time, but rather a very useful tried and true prep method.

Appreciate it man! How's your prep going? Tort even seemed to have struggled with that Virus game on Saturday. Sigh... makes me so nervous!

Just to clarify, we're talking about doing BR on individual section drills, in addition to full PTs right?

[ms9]

Hey, ya'll. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be joining you guys in December (which means I probably won't be able to apply to law school this cycle - which hurts a little less each day I come to grips with it). What are you September re-takers going to do to prepare? Are any of ya'll canceling? I'm sitll not sure about canceling or not. Still trying to come off the shock that was that lacquer passage.

I read in the Spivey thread that applying with a December score doesn't make you late in the application cycle, it just means your application is on time.

December is essentially the last test date that most schools accept for a given cycle. You receive your score in early January, and most T14 schools' deadlines for applying are in February or March. Just have your application ready, and send it in as soon as you get your scores. You should be fine.

That is patently wrong. Just an fyi for the sake of information sharing, not being mean.

You're absolutely right. I just have December ingrained in my head as the deadline for most of the T14. There are many schools that accept February scores.

And in even better news, most schools will take a June score too! (they don't say that on their websites but come June they almost always will). Not a good strategy, of course, but schools will almost always make room for a good score!

[dietcoked]

I'm taking today and tomorrow off and Sunday, I'll start back up on the LSAT Prep. (Seriously gonna get crunk on Saturday - still crying from lacquer/viruses), but I have a new goal of 175+ (but really 173+). See you guys soon!

[Rupert Pupkin]

The moment you realize that you have done every single logic game from test 1 to 70. Some once, others twice, and even more times..

And for the 7sagers out there, the moment you realize that in the past few months you've spent more time JY then some of your friends...

The tough but simple key to getting good at LG is to do them all, and then do any particular game again if at first it wasn't easy. This is coming from a guy that initially struggled to get through 2 games in 35 minutes, and now routinely gets -0 on all 4 games with minutes to spare. To anyone struggling with LG don't lose hope, stay dedicate, stay hungry, it can be done.

JY Is my boy (I watch his LG videos)...I swear when Im doing a game now I do everything exactly like he does and even in his voice lol

He's the angel on my shoulder any time I have a mental lapse during a game.

Yes he is indeed. Im hoping he guided me through the Virus game as he always does lol

Hardest part of my prep is when I play a game (that I thought was pretty difficult) and head over to JY's explanation and he STARTS the video with "this is actually a really easy game and shouldn't take longer than 5 or 6min" and I just tear up a bit... HAHAHA

Oh thats the worst!!! or when he is like this is extremely difficult... you should shoot for under 8 minutes. Took me 12, but you know you can finish in 8 im sure. LOL

[Barack O'Drama]

The moment you realize that you have done every single logic game from test 1 to 70. Some once, others twice, and even more times..

And for the 7sagers out there, the moment you realize that in the past few months you've spent more time JY then some of your friends...

The tough but simple key to getting good at LG is to do them all, and then do any particular game again if at first it wasn't easy. This is coming from a guy that initially struggled to get through 2 games in 35 minutes, and now routinely gets -0 on all 4 games with minutes to spare. To anyone struggling with LG don't lose hope, stay dedicate, stay hungry, it can be done.

JY Is my boy (I watch his LG videos)...I swear when Im doing a game now I do everything exactly like he does and even in his voice lol

He's the angel on my shoulder any time I have a mental lapse during a game.

Yes he is indeed. Im hoping he guided me through the Virus game as he always does lol

Hardest part of my prep is when I play a game (that I thought was pretty difficult) and head over to JY's explanation and he STARTS the video with "this is actually a really easy game and shouldn't take longer than 5 or 6min" and I just tear up a bit... HAHAHA

HAHAHAHA... Too fuckin' accurate.

[WWhitman]

The moment you realize that you have done every single logic game from test 1 to 70. Some once, others twice, and even more times..

And for the 7sagers out there, the moment you realize that in the past few months you've spent more time JY then some of your friends...

The tough but simple key to getting good at LG is to do them all, and then do any particular game again if at first it wasn't easy. This is coming from a guy that initially struggled to get through 2 games in 35 minutes, and now routinely gets -0 on all 4 games with minutes to spare. To anyone struggling with LG don't lose hope, stay dedicate, stay hungry, it can be done.

JY Is my boy (I watch his LG videos)...I swear when Im doing a game now I do everything exactly like he does and even in his voice lol

He's the angel on my shoulder any time I have a mental lapse during a game.

Yes he is indeed. Im hoping he guided me through the Virus game as he always does lol

Hardest part of my prep is when I play a game (that I thought was pretty difficult) and head over to JY's explanation and he STARTS the video with "this is actually a really easy game and shouldn't take longer than 5 or 6min" and I just tear up a bit... HAHAHA

Oh thats the worst!!! or when he is like this is extremely difficult... you should shoot for under 8 minutes. Took me 12, but you know you can finish in 8 im sure. LOL

LMAO... it stings especially bad when he's like "those who're aiming for 170+ should get it under 5min" and it had taken you 13min hahaha

[Nik9639]

Removed.

[Mikey]

was shamed in the sept waiters thread for starting to study again for dec.
so half-officially checking in!

[Rupert Pupkin]

was shamed in the sept waiters thread for starting to study again for dec.
so half-officially checking in!

Mikey we are in this together! its ok dude