The Official September 2017 Study Group Forum

[chargers21]

Yeah, I'm completely aware of how terrible BL will be. I'm still going to tough it out until I'm actually shown the door. My dad averages 3000 hours per year and I've worked long hours, so I'm at least aware of the type of time commitment I'm getting into. P.S. it isn't pleasant if you like doing things for fun more than once per week tops.

And law school is way too expensive and the rate tuition climbs at each year is mind boggling. Read an old thread where people were talking about how expensive law school was like in 2012 when tuition was 48k. In 2 years, Columbia will hit 70k per year just for tuition. My UG locked in tuition for every year after your first, why doesn't LS do this?

[Mikey]

I really want to go to NYU or Columbia. Unfortunately, I'm in DC and have no family in NYC. So there's really no way around me paying for housing, though I wouldn't mind living with a roommate or whatever. I'm sure living off campus might be slightly more affordable, though less ideal.
It's just crazy to me because I'm from Maryland and went to UMD and our tuition was ~$9k/year. So seeing a number like $60k is really hard for me to believe. Likeeee what exactly is being paid for besides a name? Yes, NYC is expensive but 60 for one year is crazy. UMD law is half of that.

yeah living off campus should be more affordable, but it's still NYC so COL will still be high. my UG was pretty cheap too, around what yours was, and I agree... LS COA is ridiculous! which is why we have to kill the LSAT to lower the cost

[Anon-e-miss]

Now that I've that I have finished the PS Bibles and have taken a couple of PTs, what is the best approach to drilling? Also what should I buy?
I have heard good things about Cambridge packets but those seem to be unavailable now due to the PDF crackdown. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Are there any good alternatives?

[chargers21]

I really want to go to NYU or Columbia. Unfortunately, I'm in DC and have no family in NYC. So there's really no way around me paying for housing, though I wouldn't mind living with a roommate or whatever. I'm sure living off campus might be slightly more affordable, though less ideal.
It's just crazy to me because I'm from Maryland and went to UMD and our tuition was ~$9k/year. So seeing a number like $60k is really hard for me to believe. Likeeee what exactly is being paid for besides a name? Yes, NYC is expensive but 60 for one year is crazy. UMD law is half of that.

yeah living off campus should be more affordable, but it's still NYC so COL will still be high. my UG was pretty cheap too, around what yours was, and I agree... LS COA is ridiculous! which is why we have to kill the LSAT to lower the cost

My UG tuition was also 9k per year.

COL makes the Mordecai way more valuable than the Hamilton or Vandy if you ask me

P.S. i still cannot fathom the person saying the Ruby would still leave them with 50k in debt. Bullshit.

[chewinggum]

My UG tuition was also 9k per year.

COL makes the Mordecai way more valuable than the Hamilton or Vandy if you ask me

P.S. i still cannot fathom the person saying the Ruby would still leave them with 50k in debt. Bullshit.

Did you get the Mordecai?

I agree. I actually really like North Carolina and never really looked into Duke for whatever reason. But I will at some point.

[dj9i27]

Now that I've that I have finished the PS Bibles and have taken a couple of PTs, what is the best approach to drilling? Also what should I buy?
I have heard good things about Cambridge packets but those seem to be unavailable now due to the PDF crackdown. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Are there any good alternatives?

get every PT you can get your hands on if you haven't already and maybe the trainer for bumps down the road

[Anon-e-miss]

Now that I've that I have finished the PS Bibles and have taken a couple of PTs, what is the best approach to drilling? Also what should I buy?
I have heard good things about Cambridge packets but those seem to be unavailable now due to the PDF crackdown. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Are there any good alternatives?

get every PT you can get your hands on if you haven't already and maybe the trainer for bumps down the road

What is your method for drilling PTs if you don't mind sharing?

[dj9i27]

Now that I've that I have finished the PS Bibles and have taken a couple of PTs, what is the best approach to drilling? Also what should I buy?
I have heard good things about Cambridge packets but those seem to be unavailable now due to the PDF crackdown. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Are there any good alternatives?

get every PT you can get your hands on if you haven't already and maybe the trainer for bumps down the road

What is your method for drilling PTs if you don't mind sharing?

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... hp?t=41657

[chargers21]

My UG tuition was also 9k per year.

COL makes the Mordecai way more valuable than the Hamilton or Vandy if you ask me

P.S. i still cannot fathom the person saying the Ruby would still leave them with 50k in debt. Bullshit.

Did you get the Mordecai?

I agree. I actually really like North Carolina and never really looked into Duke for whatever reason. But I will at some point.

Haha that's the best joke I've heard all day no, nowhere close. But North Carolina is nice in my limited experience, and Duke will easily get you a NYC job without having to debt finance as much COL while in school

[dj9i27]

My UG tuition was also 9k per year.

COL makes the Mordecai way more valuable than the Hamilton or Vandy if you ask me

P.S. i still cannot fathom the person saying the Ruby would still leave them with 50k in debt. Bullshit.

Did you get the Mordecai?

I agree. I actually really like North Carolina and never really looked into Duke for whatever reason. But I will at some point.

Haha that's the best joke I've heard all day no, nowhere close. But North Carolina is nice in my limited experience, and Duke will easily get you a NYC job without having to debt finance as much COL while in school

how do meh GPA and 177+ get Mordecai?

I've seen numbers twins get anywhere from 0-120g from Duke. If it leans towards the latter and S says no, I may be there... Unless I get 45 a year from UVA or Mich... or another named scholly lol no plz help

[Anon-e-miss]

Now that I've that I have finished the PS Bibles and have taken a couple of PTs, what is the best approach to drilling? Also what should I buy?
I have heard good things about Cambridge packets but those seem to be unavailable now due to the PDF crackdown. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Are there any good alternatives?

get every PT you can get your hands on if you haven't already and maybe the trainer for bumps down the road

What is your method for drilling PTs if you don't mind sharing?

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... hp?t=41657

Thanks!

[dj9i27]

Now that I've that I have finished the PS Bibles and have taken a couple of PTs, what is the best approach to drilling? Also what should I buy?
I have heard good things about Cambridge packets but those seem to be unavailable now due to the PDF crackdown. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Are there any good alternatives?

get every PT you can get your hands on if you haven't already and maybe the trainer for bumps down the road

What is your method for drilling PTs if you don't mind sharing?

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... hp?t=41657

Thanks!

No problem, QT drilling before hordes of PTs is the way to go imo

[chargers21]

My UG tuition was also 9k per year.

COL makes the Mordecai way more valuable than the Hamilton or Vandy if you ask me

P.S. i still cannot fathom the person saying the Ruby would still leave them with 50k in debt. Bullshit.

Did you get the Mordecai?

I agree. I actually really like North Carolina and never really looked into Duke for whatever reason. But I will at some point.

Haha that's the best joke I've heard all day no, nowhere close. But North Carolina is nice in my limited experience, and Duke will easily get you a NYC job without having to debt finance as much COL while in school

how do meh GPA and 177+ get Mordecai?

I've seen numbers twins get anywhere from 0-120g from Duke. If it leans towards the latter and S says no, I may be there... Unless I get 45 a year from UVA or Mich... or another named scholly lol no plz help

Lots of begging

[dj9i27]

My UG tuition was also 9k per year.

COL makes the Mordecai way more valuable than the Hamilton or Vandy if you ask me

P.S. i still cannot fathom the person saying the Ruby would still leave them with 50k in debt. Bullshit.

Did you get the Mordecai?

I agree. I actually really like North Carolina and never really looked into Duke for whatever reason. But I will at some point.

Haha that's the best joke I've heard all day no, nowhere close. But North Carolina is nice in my limited experience, and Duke will easily get you a NYC job without having to debt finance as much COL while in school

how do meh GPA and 177+ get Mordecai?

I've seen numbers twins get anywhere from 0-120g from Duke. If it leans towards the latter and S says no, I may be there... Unless I get 45 a year from UVA or Mich... or another named scholly lol no plz help

Lots of begging

Alight, channeling my inner panhandler. IIRC duke is pretty negostion friendly, so if mich gave me $$$ duke may match them eh? UVA apparently is the inverse

[chargers21]

Alright, channeling my inner panhandler. IIRC duke is pretty negostion friendly, so if mich gave me $$$ duke may match them eh? UVA apparently is the inverse

Duke seems more than willing to go to 120k, but not higher. If you got 150k from mich they wouldn't match, I don't think. UVA seems like a bunch of dicks.

On the negotiation front, Vandy just accepted me and offered me a low scholarship recently (like 30k short of the average/median for my numbers, which sometimes get full from them). They shot me down on negotiations, basically telling me duke isn't worth 15k more than them. Like, whatever dudes. You do you.

[chewinggum]

Alright, channeling my inner panhandler. IIRC duke is pretty negostion friendly, so if mich gave me $$$ duke may match them eh? UVA apparently is the inverse

Duke seems more than willing to go to 120k, but not higher. If you got 150k from mich they wouldn't match, I don't think. UVA seems like a bunch of dicks.

On the negotiation front, Vandy just accepted me and offered me a low scholarship recently (like 30k short of the average/median for my numbers, which sometimes get full from them). They shot me down on negotiations, basically telling me duke isn't worth 15k more than them. Like, whatever dudes. You do you.

Duke > Vandy.

But I don't plan on applying to Vandy. But if I do, it's only for negotiation purposes - I'd never actually go.

[dj9i27]

Alright, channeling my inner panhandler. IIRC duke is pretty negostion friendly, so if mich gave me $$$ duke may match them eh? UVA apparently is the inverse

Duke seems more than willing to go to 120k, but not higher. If you got 150k from mich they wouldn't match, I don't think. UVA seems like a bunch of dicks.

On the negotiation front, Vandy just accepted me and offered me a low scholarship recently (like 30k short of the average/median for my numbers, which sometimes get full from them). They shot me down on negotiations, basically telling me duke isn't worth 15k more than them. Like, whatever dudes. You do you.

wonder why they stick with that 120g mark, not being greedy that's great but I don't see many on LSN taking Mordecai which is strange but they probably got HYS or CNN with full rides. Somoenes salt powered by UVA lol

Lmao do they not know math? isn't duke 10 and they are 16ish

[Alexandros]

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[Anon-e-miss]

Mordecai is super rare though.

Nobody on LSN this cycle accepted their offer. I wonder if those rejected Mordecais are offered to other students like the Ruby.

[dj9i27]

Mordecai is super rare though.

Nobody on LSN this cycle accepted their offer. I wonder if those rejected Mordecais are offered to other students like the Ruby.

has to be.


I wonder if Mordecai is rare due to it having a 3.8/175 threshold but it shares that with CCN throwing those out. maybe more would bite if they lowered the GPA or lsat parameters on it.

[Alexandros]

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[dj9i27]

Mordecai is super rare though.

Nobody on LSN this cycle accepted their offer. I wonder if those rejected Mordecais are offered to other students like the Ruby.

has to be.


I wonder if Mordecai is rare due to it having a 3.8/175 threshold but it shares that with CCN throwing those out. maybe more would bite if they lowered the GPA or lsat parameters on it.

Plz.
Yeah a brief look through LSN says 173/174+ and 3.9+. I'm willing to bet every single one of those withdraws had a CCN full and/or Y.

I'm sure there are some who bite and I'm a little biased but... the standards should be a little lower. If you give a 3.6/180 Mordecai from Duke or a full at Cornell they'd bite in a second. And the medians would go up.

[Mikey]

yo honestly, I'm so sick of the LSAT. I just want to skip to September and take this shit already. I'm so bored with it at this point

[dj9i27]

yo honestly, I'm so sick of the LSAT. I just want to skip to September and take this shit already. I'm so bored with it at this point

I feel you but I just want to do well at this point. I've put too much time and money into it.

[oopsu812]

https://www.lstreports.com/schools/nyu/costs/

Not to get too heavy on this Tuesday morning, but the cost of an education is just mind blowing. My mom and I always talk about how the demands of education have intensified in the last decade. Like we're supposed to know more, younger and learn more, faster. And we're paying for every bit of it and then some.

It's also interesting to me how (some) people our age (my, I guess, 22-27) feel like "higher" education is a cop out or "lazy" in comparison to starting a business. I don't think one is easier than the other but just looking at the guaranteed debt of law school/med school is depressing.

Aka Alex give me your score.

9 am thoughts lol

yeah, law school is ridiculously expensive for no fucking reason. fuck schools having to have certain budgets and shit, I'm sure they get plenty from other sources other than current students. that's why I would prefer to go to NYU or Columbia, yes they are both very expensive, BUT if I were to go to one of them I would live at home to save about 100k of COL.

I really want to go to NYU or Columbia. Unfortunately, I'm in DC and have no family in NYC. So there's really no way around me paying for housing, though I wouldn't mind living with a roommate or whatever. I'm sure living off campus might be slightly more affordable, though less ideal.
It's just crazy to me because I'm from Maryland and went to UMD and our tuition was ~$9k/year. So seeing a number like $60k is really hard for me to believe. Likeeee what exactly is being paid for besides a name? Yes, NYC is expensive but 60 for one year is crazy. UMD law is half of that.

My tuition is 5k a year, so I get how you feel when your eyes go at prices.