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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by Doubting Law » Fri May 27, 2016 3:43 pm

jagerbom79 wrote:I finished Manhattan's RC guide in about 2 days. I would def recommend this combined with some of the other methods stated. Gave me a great grasp on RC strategy wise. I found it very to the point and helpful. And now its just practice and another book for an alt approach for a new/diff perspective.

Although some say its not necessary, I have made it a goal to read every night before bed and am currently reading fountainhead. I found that this is making my mind sharper and when i am working on any of the sections, focus and comprehension is coming a lot easier. would def recommend. I always try to read, but I went through phases of consistency due to school work.
How is The Fountainhead? I've been meaning to read some Ayn Rand but haven't gotten around to it yet.

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by Archer@Law » Fri May 27, 2016 3:47 pm

YupSports wrote:Been drilling RC for the past couple of days.

To my immense relief, speed is no longer an issue, as I am finishing sections with 3 to 4 minutes to spare.

Now, if only I could not miss 2 - 3 questions for each section from hurrying and misreading!

Also, if anyone wants to know: Diagnostic 151 then 160 on December 2015 and currently PTing at the 167 mark.

Anything over 170 is fine by me!
That's awesome progress! When did you take your first diagnostic?

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by YupSports » Fri May 27, 2016 3:53 pm

Archer@Law wrote:
YupSports wrote:Been drilling RC for the past couple of days.

To my immense relief, speed is no longer an issue, as I am finishing sections with 3 to 4 minutes to spare.

Now, if only I could not miss 2 - 3 questions for each section from hurrying and misreading!

Also, if anyone wants to know: Diagnostic 151 then 160 on December 2015 and currently PTing at the 167 mark.

Anything over 170 is fine by me!
That's awesome progress! When did you take your first diagnostic?
Sometime around July of 2015 - the exact month escapes me.

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by 20170322 » Fri May 27, 2016 4:05 pm

Slowly improving with logic games, albeit struggling with the timing. If I can go -0 on test day, the sky's the limit.

On a similar note, is anyone looking for an online study buddy for September?

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by YupSports » Fri May 27, 2016 6:23 pm

Drilled RC 61 - missed 1 and finished with 3 minutes to go!

Good way to kick off the extended weekend.

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by Rupert Pupkin » Fri May 27, 2016 7:49 pm

Doubting Law wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:I finished Manhattan's RC guide in about 2 days. I would def recommend this combined with some of the other methods stated. Gave me a great grasp on RC strategy wise. I found it very to the point and helpful. And now its just practice and another book for an alt approach for a new/diff perspective.

Although some say its not necessary, I have made it a goal to read every night before bed and am currently reading fountainhead. I found that this is making my mind sharper and when i am working on any of the sections, focus and comprehension is coming a lot easier. would def recommend. I always try to read, but I went through phases of consistency due to school work.
How is The Fountainhead? I've been meaning to read some Ayn Rand but haven't gotten around to it yet.
So far its great! Despite it being an abnormally long book, it will be good. Its more action-packed and lively than Atlas Shrugged. Ayn Rand is just a phenomenal author to begin with, and her philosophy on "objectivism" is quite interesting. I think either Atlas Shrugged or Fountainhead are a must read for anyone. Its been on my list for years since reading the Anthem and just never got around to it.

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by garypaintsalot » Fri May 27, 2016 7:52 pm

Hi guys,

I am glad to join this community. I started off very humble-139 on my diagnostic last September. I studied couple of months while attending school and finally scored a 152 in February, which was a bit lower then my timed mock tests (157-159). Now I'm aiming at a 165+ on the September one.

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by Rupert Pupkin » Fri May 27, 2016 9:02 pm

I am going through the LR bible and I noticed it stresses a lot about "prephasing." Most of the time it happens naturally to me, but sometimes I rather just look at the AC and cut to the chase. Will it be more beneficial for me to establish the habit of following through with the prephasing step in answering a LR question?

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by proteinshake » Fri May 27, 2016 9:27 pm

Doubting Law wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:I finished Manhattan's RC guide in about 2 days. I would def recommend this combined with some of the other methods stated. Gave me a great grasp on RC strategy wise. I found it very to the point and helpful. And now its just practice and another book for an alt approach for a new/diff perspective.

Although some say its not necessary, I have made it a goal to read every night before bed and am currently reading fountainhead. I found that this is making my mind sharper and when i am working on any of the sections, focus and comprehension is coming a lot easier. would def recommend. I always try to read, but I went through phases of consistency due to school work.
How is The Fountainhead? I've been meaning to read some Ayn Rand but haven't gotten around to it yet.
currently reading Anarchy, State, and Utopia! I'm trying to read everyday as well.

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by Rupert Pupkin » Fri May 27, 2016 9:35 pm

proteinshake wrote:
Doubting Law wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:I finished Manhattan's RC guide in about 2 days. I would def recommend this combined with some of the other methods stated. Gave me a great grasp on RC strategy wise. I found it very to the point and helpful. And now its just practice and another book for an alt approach for a new/diff perspective.

Although some say its not necessary, I have made it a goal to read every night before bed and am currently reading fountainhead. I found that this is making my mind sharper and when i am working on any of the sections, focus and comprehension is coming a lot easier. would def recommend. I always try to read, but I went through phases of consistency due to school work.
How is The Fountainhead? I've been meaning to read some Ayn Rand but haven't gotten around to it yet.
currently reading Anarchy, State, and Utopia! I'm trying to read everyday as well.
I haven't heard of that book, but i love economic/political philosophical thought, and my favorite genre of fiction is dystopia, so I might have to look into that one!

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by proteinshake » Fri May 27, 2016 9:50 pm

jagerbom79 wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
Doubting Law wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:I finished Manhattan's RC guide in about 2 days. I would def recommend this combined with some of the other methods stated. Gave me a great grasp on RC strategy wise. I found it very to the point and helpful. And now its just practice and another book for an alt approach for a new/diff perspective.

Although some say its not necessary, I have made it a goal to read every night before bed and am currently reading fountainhead. I found that this is making my mind sharper and when i am working on any of the sections, focus and comprehension is coming a lot easier. would def recommend. I always try to read, but I went through phases of consistency due to school work.
How is The Fountainhead? I've been meaning to read some Ayn Rand but haven't gotten around to it yet.
currently reading Anarchy, State, and Utopia! I'm trying to read everyday as well.
I haven't heard of that book, but i love economic/political philosophical thought, and my favorite genre of fiction is dystopia, so I might have to look into that one!
ahh same!! sorry I get excited about political philosophy. that and economic theory make up the majority of my reading so it's cool when I see other people who are into it as well.

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by tuesdayninja » Fri May 27, 2016 11:30 pm

Just finished the LG mastery challenge in the Trainer. Went minus one in the CD problem because I read the question stem wrong for question 9, didn't see it asking for new CDs. Went verrrry slow but kept time. 19, 17.5, 24, and 12 minutes respectively. Think it's time to start pushing pace in further drills...

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by proteinshake » Fri May 27, 2016 11:37 pm

tuesdayninja wrote:Just finished the LG mastery challenge in the Trainer. Went minus one in the CD problem because I read the question stem wrong for question 9, didn't see it asking for new CDs. Went verrrry slow but kept time. 19, 17.5, 24, and 12 minutes respectively. Think it's time to start pushing pace in further drills...
nice! I actually didn't think the last game was hard and it seems like you didn't either!

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by Rupert Pupkin » Sat May 28, 2016 2:11 am

proteinshake wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
Doubting Law wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:I finished Manhattan's RC guide in about 2 days. I would def recommend this combined with some of the other methods stated. Gave me a great grasp on RC strategy wise. I found it very to the point and helpful. And now its just practice and another book for an alt approach for a new/diff perspective.

Although some say its not necessary, I have made it a goal to read every night before bed and am currently reading fountainhead. I found that this is making my mind sharper and when i am working on any of the sections, focus and comprehension is coming a lot easier. would def recommend. I always try to read, but I went through phases of consistency due to school work.
How is The Fountainhead? I've been meaning to read some Ayn Rand but haven't gotten around to it yet.
currently reading Anarchy, State, and Utopia! I'm trying to read everyday as well.
I haven't heard of that book, but i love economic/political philosophical thought, and my favorite genre of fiction is dystopia, so I might have to look into that one!
ahh same!! sorry I get excited about political philosophy. that and economic theory make up the majority of my reading so it's cool when I see other people who are into it as well.
Haha me too! Def going to look into that book. I took a class called perspectives of free enterprise and we had to analyze current economic events using support from the various school's of thought. Was definitely one of my favorite classes of undergrad.

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by 20170322 » Sat May 28, 2016 4:18 pm

Logic games are going to kill me. It's all I'm working on rn, and I'm seeing very little improvement.

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by Archer@Law » Sat May 28, 2016 4:18 pm

YupSports wrote:
Archer@Law wrote:
YupSports wrote:Been drilling RC for the past couple of days.

To my immense relief, speed is no longer an issue, as I am finishing sections with 3 to 4 minutes to spare.

Now, if only I could not miss 2 - 3 questions for each section from hurrying and misreading!

Also, if anyone wants to know: Diagnostic 151 then 160 on December 2015 and currently PTing at the 167 mark.

Anything over 170 is fine by me!
That's awesome progress! When did you take your first diagnostic?
Sometime around July of 2015 - the exact month escapes me.
Still, almost 20 points in a year is certainly an improvement. Those 170s are just around the corner.

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How do you guys allocate your study time to each of the sections everyday? Do you break up your time daily or just set a weekly goal?

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by Archer@Law » Sat May 28, 2016 4:20 pm

SweetTort wrote:Logic games are going to kill me. It's all I'm working on rn, and I'm seeing very little improvement.
Are you using any study materials like the Trainer or Manhattan at all?

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by Archer@Law » Sat May 28, 2016 4:33 pm

jagerbom79 wrote:How do you guys allocate your study time to each of the sections everyday? Do you break up your time daily or just set a weekly goal?
This is relevant to my interests. I work full-time in addition to maintaining a full time class schedule (out for summer of course).

I work evenings, so I normally study for a few hours before work and then an hour or so after. Then hit it harder on the weekends. I have daily goals, but use the weekend for catch-up.

My one concern is how I'm going to balance my last month of prep when fall semester starts back up in late August.

P.S. I think I might have accidentally reported your post. Fail.

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Post by 20170322 » Sat May 28, 2016 4:40 pm

Archer@Law wrote:
SweetTort wrote:Logic games are going to kill me. It's all I'm working on rn, and I'm seeing very little improvement.
Are you using any study materials like the Trainer or Manhattan at all?
I used the Logic Games Bible and Manhattan for the rest, but now I'm just drilling LG and using 7sage.

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by Rupert Pupkin » Sat May 28, 2016 4:41 pm

Archer@Law wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:How do you guys allocate your study time to each of the sections everyday? Do you break up your time daily or just set a weekly goal?
This is relevant to my interests. I work full-time in addition to maintaining a full time class schedule (out for summer of course).

I work evenings, so I normally study for a few hours before work and then an hour or so after. Then hit it harder on the weekends. I have daily goals, but use the weekend for catch-up.

My one concern is how I'm going to balance my last month of prep when fall semester starts back up in late August.

P.S. I think I might have accidentally reported your post. Fail.
I will be working this summer full-time as well and school in the fall.

Im using the bibles for LG/LR and Manhattan for RC for now.

I have looked at Powerscore's sample study plans which are based on completing x amount of chapters each week. Im trying to decide if its better to do a half chapter of each section everyday or do LG one day, LR the next and so on.. or pick two for one day and switch one of them out the next. When I get to the real drilling and PT phase, it will be easier to organize, but while im still going through the bibles I want to make sure im doing it effectively

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by Archer@Law » Sat May 28, 2016 5:13 pm

SweetTort wrote:
Archer@Law wrote:
SweetTort wrote:Logic games are going to kill me. It's all I'm working on rn, and I'm seeing very little improvement.
Are you using any study materials like the Trainer or Manhattan at all?
I used the Logic Games Bible and Manhattan for the rest, but now I'm just drilling LG and using 7sage.
I don't know if it will help at all, but I really like the Trainer so far. Mike addresses things from a really fundamental perspective. The idea is that everything you do is built on a foundation of certain skills, and in order to score highly, those fundamentals have to be on point. If you're getting misses, they are often a symptom of a misstep further upstream. And you search for that misstep in your base process and then reconstruct your process. He really concentrates on the commonalities of games, rather than their differences.

Again, I don't know if it will help, but if you have $40 you can spend on the Trainer, it might be worth a shot lol, I feel like I should be getting a commission for that pitch.

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by Archer@Law » Sat May 28, 2016 5:31 pm

jagerbom79 wrote:
Archer@Law wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:How do you guys allocate your study time to each of the sections everyday? Do you break up your time daily or just set a weekly goal?
This is relevant to my interests. I work full-time in addition to maintaining a full time class schedule (out for summer of course).

I work evenings, so I normally study for a few hours before work and then an hour or so after. Then hit it harder on the weekends. I have daily goals, but use the weekend for catch-up.

My one concern is how I'm going to balance my last month of prep when fall semester starts back up in late August.

P.S. I think I might have accidentally reported your post. Fail.
I will be working this summer full-time as well and school in the fall.

Im using the bibles for LG/LR and Manhattan for RC for now.

I have looked at Powerscore's sample study plans which are based on completing x amount of chapters each week. Im trying to decide if its better to do a half chapter of each section everyday or do LG one day, LR the next and so on.. or pick two for one day and switch one of them out the next. When I get to the real drilling and PT phase, it will be easier to organize, but while im still going through the bibles I want to make sure im doing it effectively
For me, I like higher exposure, repetition, and more reviewing. I retain much better that way. I like focusing on one chapter in the morning on LG, LR, or RC for example, and then working on review for whatever I didn't do in the morning, at night before bed.

So if I worked on mainly LR last week, and I'm doing mainly LG this week, I will do my review on LR.

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group

Post by YupSports » Sat May 28, 2016 5:38 pm

Archer@Law wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:How do you guys allocate your study time to each of the sections everyday? Do you break up your time daily or just set a weekly goal?
This is relevant to my interests. I work full-time in addition to maintaining a full time class schedule (out for summer of course).

I work evenings, so I normally study for a few hours before work and then an hour or so after. Then hit it harder on the weekends. I have daily goals, but use the weekend for catch-up.

My one concern is how I'm going to balance my last month of prep when fall semester starts back up in late August.

P.S. I think I might have accidentally reported your post. Fail.
So I am working more than full time hours and here is what I do/did:

I followed the 7Sage 16 week plan that allocated around 12 hours a week of study.

I worked each weekday (Monday - Friday) for 2 to 2.5 hours after work and dinner. I would then do whatever was left on the schedule for that week on Saturday.

This allowed me to still get sleep, not burnout, and have a social life.

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