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Broncos15 · Post by **Broncos15** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:45 am

Mack.Hambleton wrote:
Broncos15 wrote:

And I followed the TLS advice of wait to finish UG before retaking LSAT because GPA locks in- can't fix it later.

I'll be questioning for a long time if I should have gone ahead and applied with for Fall 2015 with a 3.5 GPA rather than boost it up to a 3.67 and having a wait and see/patient approach
This barely matters at all. You still need to do well on the LSAT no matter how much apps are down or up

True, but there are some places that I could not get into with a 3.5 GPA , no matter what the LSAT score was because of GPA floors ....that I now have chances of admissions with a 3.67 GPA ( Harvard, Berkeley, Chicago ) so I view it as worth delaying admissions/my retake

Broncos15 · Post by **Broncos15** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:47 am

As an aside, i wonder how many people took the June 2015 LSAT as first time test takers trying to get into TTTT schools for this upcoming Fall 2015 semester.

stego · Post by **stego** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:43 am

tskela wrote:
Rigo wrote:
tskela wrote:Kinda makes me not wanna wait to apply after I graduate. I'm leaning towards just applying this cycle now
Huh? You mean to start in fall 2015 or fall 2016?
Fall 2016 would be after my graduation. Fall 2015 would be the start of my senior year. Was unsure as to which cycle to apply to because of the potential GPA bump if I waited until Fall 2016. But I'd rather not gamble on a more competitive cycle. Idk. It would be the difference between a 3.6x and a 3.7x

Does it still count as waiting if you literally could not go to law school any earlier?

whacka · Post by **whacka** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:54 am

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tskela · Post by **tskela** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:44 pm

stasg wrote:
tskela wrote:
Rigo wrote:
tskela wrote:Kinda makes me not wanna wait to apply after I graduate. I'm leaning towards just applying this cycle now
Huh? You mean to start in fall 2015 or fall 2016?
Fall 2016 would be after my graduation. Fall 2015 would be the start of my senior year. Was unsure as to which cycle to apply to because of the potential GPA bump if I waited until Fall 2016. But I'd rather not gamble on a more competitive cycle. Idk. It would be the difference between a 3.6x and a 3.7x
Does it still count as waiting if you literally could not go to law school any earlier?

I meant waiting to apply. Fall 2016 would not be the earliest I could apply.

ood · Post by **ood** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:58 pm

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/educa ... .html?_r=0

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RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:17 pm

ood wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/educa ... .html?_r=0

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They attribute the TFA drop to an improved economy, but we generally think of law school apps as inversely related to the economy.

whacka · Post by **whacka** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:32 pm

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redfred22 · Post by **redfred22** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:48 pm

whacka wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:
ood wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/educa ... .html?_r=0

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They attribute the TFA drop to an improved economy, but we generally think of law school apps as inversely related to the economy.
That's interesting, I'd think of it the opposite way intuitively, unless I'm misunderstanding you. I'd think better economy = better legal employment prospects = more apps? Unless I'm just misunderstanding what you mean by "inversely related." I guess it could be thought of as good economy = worse chances of getting into a specific law school, which would be an inverse relationship

Economy sucks, unemployment rises, less jobs --> more grads unable to find jobs, resort to going back to school to delay entering job market, and choose law school --> applications go up

Better economy --> more/better jobs right out of undergrad --> no feeling of having to go back to school

(I'm not trying to set these up as conditionals, lol)

basedvulpes · Post by **basedvulpes** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:50 pm

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shump92 · Post by **shump92** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:55 pm

But the number of people in law school hit a huge decline precisely because of the recession. I think both views articulated are partially right. Strength in the legal market -> better employment prospects with JD -> more apps. But stronger economy vis-a-vis legal market (i.e. jobs in consulting/business) -> potential KJDs finding good jobs and electing not to go to law school -> fewer apps.

whacka · Post by **whacka** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:05 pm

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Clemenceau · Post by **Clemenceau** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:08 pm

whacka wrote:
basedvulpes wrote: I think it's just the opposite. Better economy = better job prospects across the board = less people choosing to go grad school. I think people often choose to go to grad school because they can't find a job, so it's a way to gain credentials and remove yourself from the workforce until it improves.
That makes a lot of sense, but didn't the recession cause a huge drop in apps? Based on this logic, I'd expect apps to spike

The recession did in fact cause apps to spike. Check the numbers

whacka · Post by **whacka** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:11 pm

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basedvulpes · Post by **basedvulpes** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:17 pm

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ugg · Post by **ugg** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:31 am

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shump92 · Post by **shump92** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:33 am

theugg wrote:Ugh. I thought everyone had permanently realized that law sucks 99% of the time but it seems to be affecting a new generation.

Thanks Obama?

Harry_Pluxen · Post by **Harry_Pluxen** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:28 pm

http://www.nationallawjournal.com/home/ ... 0620152728

Johann · Post by **Johann** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:40 pm

theugg wrote:Ugh. I thought everyone had permanently realized that law sucks 99% of the time but it seems to be affecting a new generation.

why doesn't law suck for you?

ugg · Post by **ugg** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:44 pm

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Cochran · Post by **Cochran** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:56 pm

Harry_Pluxen wrote:http://www.nationallawjournal.com/home/ ... 0620152728

Welp, guess I've been in denial, looks like admissions are gonna be stifling af. Should have had my ish together last yr, smh...

basedvulpes · Post by **basedvulpes** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:20 pm

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Harry_Pluxen · Post by **Harry_Pluxen** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:50 pm

basedvulpes wrote:
Harry_Pluxen wrote:http://www.nationallawjournal.com/home/ ... 0620152728
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ood · Post by **ood** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:10 pm

basedvulpes wrote:
whacka wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:
ood wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/educa ... .html?_r=0

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They attribute the TFA drop to an improved economy, but we generally think of law school apps as inversely related to the economy.
That's interesting, I'd think of it the opposite way intuitively, unless I'm misunderstanding you. I'd think better economy = better legal employment prospects = more apps? Unless I'm just misunderstanding what you mean by "inversely related." I guess it could be thought of as good economy = worse chances of getting into a specific law school, which would be an inverse relationship
I think it's just the opposite. Better economy = better job prospects across the board = less people choosing to go grad school. I think people often choose to go to grad school because they can't find a job, so it's a way to gain credentials and remove yourself from the workforce until it improves.

Many TFA corps members are people who are deferring law school. Teach for America has been an attractive alternative to these slightly above average LA majors. Lately, TFA has been getting a lot of bad rep. As someone who was in the organization, I can tell you that recruiting these people has gotten a lot harder. So by removing an attractive alternative, more students are applying to Law School who would otherwise have gone to TFA. In my corps 2/3 of the people were headed for law had they not gone TFA. Also, most are special snowflake idealist, and many of them are not easily dissuaded from law by the economy. I think this, along with many other factors, may have had some impact on the increase.

lollsat · Post by **lollsat** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:03 am

Harry_Pluxen wrote:
basedvulpes wrote:
Harry_Pluxen wrote:http://www.nationallawjournal.com/home/ ... 0620152728
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