The Official September 2017 Study Group Forum

[Anon-e-miss]

If PSLF gets capped or (god forbid) dismantled, do you think non-HYS+C T14 would transition to straight am LRAPs or just leave their current students and recent PI grads out to dry?

I get the feeling that many of them may not be in a position to afford to amortize the debt of current PI gunners and/or that of PSLF-hopefuls whose debt has been accumulating since graduation. What an awful situation that would be.

People asked about this at ASW and they said something independent would definitely be implemented. Don't recall the specific schools and obviously that should be taken with a grain of salt.

My past inquiry into this topic had a similar result. Apparently, people at NYU and UChicago said that, although I guess my question was actually more pertaining to those recent grads who are already on the integrated LRAPs.

PSLF/LRAP uncertainty would actually motivate me to take out greater debt at Columbia (or HYS where I'm very unlikely to be accepted) than T14s where I would be more likely to get money, or NYU which is undoubtedly slightly better for my specific PI interests.

[Alexandros]

taking new poll ideas!

Best rapper

Eeeeeeeh..

Best workout

^
such a bro.

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Mikey?

MIKEY HAS BEEN FOUND.

[chewinggum]

Ahh. On my phone at HH. Whoops!

[Ayo_mide]

why did lawschooli stop selling the mastermind?

They still sell it https://lawschooli.com/shop/lsat-study- ... astermind/

[twiix]

taking new poll ideas!

Best rapper

Eeeeeeeh..

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[ngogirl12]

So do you guys think that 7sage is miles ahead of simply using MH books, 7sage LG videos, and every PT?

No.

There is no silver bullet to this test. That's the only method that's going to work is learning the concepts and spending hours on hours for months practicing real LSAT questions.

Of course, but some materials teach concepts better than others. Just asking how people felt about 7sage vs. books.

Just to clarify, I meant 7sage + PTs vs. books + PTs. Just realized my original comment read differently.

I think Alex's point is that it is based on your individual learning style. I'm a visual and auditory learner. For me, the first time around I went through the Manhattan RC book, 7Sage curriculum, and Trainer only for the flaw chapters because I heard amazing things about it. That alone took me 6 months because I was also working and aimed at going really slowly. I thought I only was moving on when I was ready but I DO remember getting antsy with some of the LR types and wanting to move on quicker than I was.

This time around, I'm redoing the 7Sage curriculum using Cambridge 1-38 material (as I was before), rereading the Manhattan RC guide, and reading Trainer with the corresponding chapters for LR and RC. I'm skipping 7Sage's RC lessons. Also, like Twiix said, 7Sage is constantly updating their lessons. Another thing they did recently which I heard was REALLY helpful to some was a short LR course for people who were enrolled in the course with JY the creator of 7Sage. One of the major benefits to the course for me is the comments below each lesson. Many 7Sagers overanalyze the lesson and break apart each part, others pose questions, and reading through those comments can really assist one in understanding aspects of the LSAT one never even comprehended.

Some people find the 7Sage curriculum sufficient for prep study, others find the books Manhattan/Trainer enough.

Whatever you end up doing, just make sure it works for you!

[presidentspivey]

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/runner0913

#urmmotivation

Once again however, the strong UG concerns me.

[Alexandros]

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/runner0913

#urmmotivation

Once again however, the strong UG concerns me.

STANNY <3

A lot of my LSN numbers twins this cycle were top private, trying to lower my cycle expectations a wee bit....

[chargers21]

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/meeseeks

this one's for DJ. Meeseeks is a TLSer, and while his cycle doesn't bode well in all ways, 90k from Columbia is a great outcome. I know you'll get Stanny , but if I was a betting man, I would say you end up at Columbia. It seems like the landing spot for that type of split

[Alexandros]

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/meeseeks

this one's for DJ. Meeseeks is a TLSer, and while his cycle doesn't bode well in all ways, 90k from Columbia is a great outcome. I know you'll get Stanny , but if I was a betting man, I would say you end up at Columbia. It seems like the landing spot for that type of split

Damn. That is a solid outcome.

[presidentspivey]

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/meeseeks

this one's for DJ. Meeseeks is a TLSer, and while his cycle doesn't bode well in all ways, 90k from Columbia is a great outcome. I know you'll get Stanny , but if I was a betting man, I would say you end up at Columbia. It seems like the landing spot for that type of split

Damn. That is a solid outcome.

Can we just talk about Stanford's campus for a minute. Good God. It's the only T6 I've visited in any capacity, as I went up to see high school friends. Wow that is a beauty. Can't imagine New Haven or Cambridge measure up.

[Alexandros]

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/meeseeks

this one's for DJ. Meeseeks is a TLSer, and while his cycle doesn't bode well in all ways, 90k from Columbia is a great outcome. I know you'll get Stanny , but if I was a betting man, I would say you end up at Columbia. It seems like the landing spot for that type of split

Damn. That is a solid outcome.

Can we just talk about Stanford's campus for a minute. Good God. It's the only T6 I've visited in any capacity, as I went up to see high school friends. Wow that is a beauty. Can't imagine New Haven or Cambridge measure up.

Same here. Ufff. <///3

[chewinggum]

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/meeseeks

this one's for DJ. Meeseeks is a TLSer, and while his cycle doesn't bode well in all ways, 90k from Columbia is a great outcome. I know you'll get Stanny , but if I was a betting man, I would say you end up at Columbia. It seems like the landing spot for that type of split

This makes me so hopeful. I hope splitters do equally as well at NYU (for negotiation purposes)

[dj9i27]

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/meeseeks

this one's for DJ. Meeseeks is a TLSer, and while his cycle doesn't bode well in all ways, 90k from Columbia is a great outcome. I know you'll get Stanny , but if I was a betting man, I would say you end up at Columbia. It seems like the landing spot for that type of split

Damn. That is a solid outcome.

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That's pretty damn good, parallel offer with mich would make CLS hard to turn down. Stanny is still the unattainable goal....

[Mikey]

I'M MR MEESEEKS LOOK AT ME

[dj9i27]

I'M MR MEESEEKS LOOK AT ME

EXISTENCE IS PAIN

[chewinggum]

Is there any data out there about 3-3.4/sub 3 splitters admission and money to T6 schools?

[chargers21]

Is there any data out there about 3-3.4/sub 3 splitters admission and money to T6 schools?

MyLSN

[twiix]

Is there any data out there about 3-3.4/sub 3 splitters admission and money to T6 schools?

T6 as sub 3? get outta town. I'd say for HYS - Barring a medal of honor, Olympic athlete, going through brain cancer during UG, or having 10+ years of work experience where you created snapchat and facebook, it's not at all plausible. CCN you might be able to pull some tom foolery with a 175+ and some incredibly strong softs + WE + LoR + addendum.

3.0-3.4 will have a reasonable shot at CN (not chicago - they don't play games with GPA this low) with a 175 + though without anything crazy unique on their app, but it usually comes at full sticker price.

[twiix]

Is there any data out there about 3-3.4/sub 3 splitters admission and money to T6 schools?

MyLSN

http://mylsn.info/wopi06/ 3.0-3.4 gpa with 170-180 lsat

http://mylsn.info/zldw5v/ 2.4-3.0 gpa with 170-180 lsat

[chargers21]

I'M MR MEESEEKS LOOK AT ME

EXISTENCE IS PAIN

Excuse me, I'm a bit of a stickler Meeseeks, what about your short game?

[chargers21]

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[chewinggum]

Is there any data out there about 3-3.4/sub 3 splitters admission and money to T6 schools?

T6 as sub 3? get outta town. I'd say for HYS - Barring a medal of honor, Olympic athlete, going through brain cancer during UG, or having 10+ years of work experience where you created snapchat and facebook, it's not at all plausible. CCN you might be able to pull some tom foolery with a 175+ and some incredibly strong softs + WE + LoR + addendum.

3.0-3.4 will have a reasonable shot at CN (not chicago - they don't play games with GPA this low) with a 175 + though without anything crazy unique on their app, but it usually comes at full sticker price.

Not sure why reading this was so entertaining lol

But I'm always hesitant to trust LSN since they are self reports..

[dj9i27]

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/meeseeks

this one's for DJ. Meeseeks is a TLSer, and while his cycle doesn't bode well in all ways, 90k from Columbia is a great outcome. I know you'll get Stanny , but if I was a betting man, I would say you end up at Columbia. It seems like the landing spot for that type of split

Damn. That is a solid outcome.

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That's pretty damn good, parallel offer with mich would make CLS hard to turn down. Stanny is still the unattainable goal....

I'm not entirely sure of your gpa, but it definitely seems like, from what I've been seeing, that Columbia is in play and if you get Harvard it will probably be financially justifiable. Would you take 105k from cornell or pay at or near sticker for Columbia, ignoring all other options? Just curious, as that seems like the type of decision many splitters have to make

it's good, not great. Lots of people if you +/-.2 have gotten into H with a 175+ and there are so few data points for S it's unrepresentative imo. CLS is in and a numbers twin got into Chi, equal funding I might lean toward chi (family).

In the Cornell v. CLS I would take Cornell. To hell with paying sicker unless it's S. I think I have a decent shot at 120-150g from mich and 135g from UVA. Duke is either going to low ball me or be a serious contender. My softs are what are keeping me alive lol and give me a snowballs chance at HS

[mwells56]

About to take PT70.

On my last 4 PTs I've been in a steady decline of 171(PT45)-167(PT46)-166(PT76)-163(PT69). This was not a boost to my confidence.

This is all after coming off the academic high of getting my first 4.0 semester. No idea how my junior year ended up this well. Bumped by LSAC GPA from a 3.69 to a 3.75. Never thought I would be able to get it that high. Based on the classes I'm taking first semester next year I could go as high as a 3.77. Not tryna brag, just venting a 'lil.

I neeeeeeed this LSAT to go well. My original top-end goal was Columbia but with this GPA hike I'm starting to think Harvard might be a possibility. In the 7 tests I've taken since I started studying again in January I've only broken 170 twice (both 171's, PTs 42 and 45) and I've been averaging 167. I'm currently a Michigan undergrad and would love to stay here for law school and a 168ish is probably enough to get in but I'd at the very least like to have options on the higher end of the T14.

My biggest problem is consistency. On LG I go -0 or I can go -5. RC -3 or -9. LG is all over the place, could be -0 on one section and then -5 on the other. I know it's not a lack of understanding or ability at this point, I almost never get a question wrong that I don't understand what the right answer is and why. I'm just always making the dumb mistakes. If I get lucky I could get a 178. If I get unlucky I could get a 160. Frustrating.

Remaining tests are 70, 71, and 77-80. Hopefully that and whatever questions/sections I have remaining will be enough.

Sorry for the rant, just starting to feel the pressure.