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Post by ngogirl12 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:09 am

tofuspeedstar wrote:
Alexandros wrote:Aside from one old LR section, done nothing for the LSAT today. I'm gonna look again at the questions I got wrong and might print out some more sets.

Moving forward with LR, I'm thinking - continue with the drilling, making a word doc with just the hardest questions, alternatively/additionally, word doc with just the questions I got wrong, and be able to completely understand why the right answer's right and my answer's wrong.

To change topics completely - Anyone looking at Berkeley?

Nope, unfortunately my GPA is sub 3.0 cause of medical reasons my first 2 1/2 years of college. So I'm locked out of most west coast schools. :(
I'm not an expert on Berkeley admissions or anything, I have lived in California all my life though and know A LOT of people that have gone there. UC Berkeley is very accommodating to people who have had medical/extenuating circumstances. If you have a medical illness, compelling story, crazy thing that happened to you then they will definitely consider you. That said, you would have to have a kickass LSAT score.

If you don't have any of those circumstances, then you would have to have a really high GPA and high LSAT score. I also know most of the UC schools usually take California residents first (went to a UC for undergrad) and then out of state students. There was a lawsuit recently because Berkeley was taking more out of state residents. I definitely would not let medical reasons and a subpar gpa deter you!

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Post by ngogirl12 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:13 am

Alexandros wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
Alexandros wrote:Aside from one old LR section, done nothing for the LSAT today. I'm gonna look again at the questions I got wrong and might print out some more sets.

Moving forward with LR, I'm thinking - continue with the drilling, making a word doc with just the hardest questions, alternatively/additionally, word doc with just the questions I got wrong, and be able to completely understand why the right answer's right and my answer's wrong.

To change topics completely - Anyone looking at Berkeley?
nah, I don't think there's a point in applying if you don't want to go to the west coast.
No, don't think so. West coast would be the main advantage for me (that and the fact that it's decently rated and I could potentially get in, contra Stanford...).
You never know, you might get into Stanford!

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Post by ngogirl12 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:17 am

OK ok last post on this thread I promise!! Haha I posted way too many in a row, I legit locked myself in the room and did nothing but review the SA questions ALL DAY LONG. It actually wasn't too bad, I also reviewed questions I got correct and took a long time on.

So, my problems were mainly math issues percentage to numbers (although I got one of those correct, I still reviewed them), and one REALLY hard science question, the one about meteors and destructive geological stable areas vs unstable areas. That question legit had me stumped, I was staring at it for 15 minutes, looked at Manhattan explanations and did not understand it at all. Finally, I posted it on 7sage and this guy explained it to me in a way that made so much sense! Love it when you make those breakthroughs!

so, yeah my day was spent focusing on SA questions, which I'm usually good at.

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Post by tofuspeedstar » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:30 am

ngogirl12 wrote:
tofuspeedstar wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
tofuspeedstar wrote:Going back and rewatching the NA lessons in 7sage I feel so dumb. JY explains them in perfect terms I can relate to (basketball) I nearly fell out of my chair laughing because they're so simple to find....tomorrow needs to come sooner so I can wreck PT60.
NA's one of the types that get really easy/predictable once you get the hang of them. Definitely my favorite LR type. Good luck on the PT tomorrow! :D
Whaaat!? I legit hate NA questions, I sometimes mess up with my diagramming.I actually hate the diagramming the opposite rule. I'm hoping that it will change when I get to the NA lesson. What's your trick to "getting the hang of it"?

The way JY explained it stuck out to me because I've been an athlete all my life (specifically basketball, which he explains it in) so for NA questions I'm looking for a "Luc Longley" type answer. Michael Jordan (the argument) needs Luc for the argument to be valid. Without Luc, Michael is just shit out of luck.

For sufficient assumptions I look for a "Michael Jordan" answer, because Michael can get the job done himself w/o help because he is the GOAT.
Oh I love this analogy, hopefully it'll come in handy! Does it work for you?
If I could put every question type on LR into basketball or Exchange lingo...I'd go -0 guaranteed.

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Post by Mikey » Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:21 am

ngogirl12 wrote: Question: Did you memorize all the vocabulary flashcards from the SA lesson?
No I didn't. Although I'm not against doing so, I just didn't feel it entirely necessary but it does seem like something worth at least looking at.

I do recommend however, to memorize the different common flaws that are on the LSAT that JY put in a document or something in the flaw lessons. Those are VERY helpful.

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Post by YupSports » Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:10 am

Drilled 50 NA questions from the Cambridge packet.

The last 15 were Level 2 versus Level 1 - they take another degree of focus versus the easier ones.

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Post by Alexandros » Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:18 am

ngogirl12 wrote:
tofuspeedstar wrote:
Alexandros wrote:Aside from one old LR section, done nothing for the LSAT today. I'm gonna look again at the questions I got wrong and might print out some more sets.

Moving forward with LR, I'm thinking - continue with the drilling, making a word doc with just the hardest questions, alternatively/additionally, word doc with just the questions I got wrong, and be able to completely understand why the right answer's right and my answer's wrong.

To change topics completely - Anyone looking at Berkeley?

Nope, unfortunately my GPA is sub 3.0 cause of medical reasons my first 2 1/2 years of college. So I'm locked out of most west coast schools. :(
I'm not an expert on Berkeley admissions or anything, I have lived in California all my life though and know A LOT of people that have gone there. UC Berkeley is very accommodating to people who have had medical/extenuating circumstances. If you have a medical illness, compelling story, crazy thing that happened to you then they will definitely consider you. That said, you would have to have a kickass LSAT score.

If you don't have any of those circumstances, then you would have to have a really high GPA and high LSAT score. I also know most of the UC schools usually take California residents first (went to a UC for undergrad) and then out of state students. There was a lawsuit recently because Berkeley was taking more out of state residents. I definitely would not let medical reasons and a subpar gpa deter you!
I thought Berkeley Law's answer to the in-state/out-of-state thing kind of resembled a SA/NA questions stimulus: "You have a roughly equal chance of being admitted regardless of your residency as we offer admission to an equal number of residents and nonresidents."

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS

Post by 34iplaw » Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:23 am

Alexandros wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:
tofuspeedstar wrote:
Alexandros wrote:Aside from one old LR section, done nothing for the LSAT today. I'm gonna look again at the questions I got wrong and might print out some more sets.

Moving forward with LR, I'm thinking - continue with the drilling, making a word doc with just the hardest questions, alternatively/additionally, word doc with just the questions I got wrong, and be able to completely understand why the right answer's right and my answer's wrong.

To change topics completely - Anyone looking at Berkeley?

Nope, unfortunately my GPA is sub 3.0 cause of medical reasons my first 2 1/2 years of college. So I'm locked out of most west coast schools. :(
I'm not an expert on Berkeley admissions or anything, I have lived in California all my life though and know A LOT of people that have gone there. UC Berkeley is very accommodating to people who have had medical/extenuating circumstances. If you have a medical illness, compelling story, crazy thing that happened to you then they will definitely consider you. That said, you would have to have a kickass LSAT score.

If you don't have any of those circumstances, then you would have to have a really high GPA and high LSAT score. I also know most of the UC schools usually take California residents first (went to a UC for undergrad) and then out of state students. There was a lawsuit recently because Berkeley was taking more out of state residents. I definitely would not let medical reasons and a subpar gpa deter you!
I thought Berkeley Law's answer to the in-state/out-of-state thing kind of resembled a SA/NA questions stimulus: "You have a roughly equal chance of being admitted regardless of your residency as we offer admission to an equal number of residents and nonresidents."
That seems like comparing two relative groups as if they were the same size. :|

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Post by Alexandros » Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:33 am

34iplaw wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:
tofuspeedstar wrote:
Alexandros wrote:Aside from one old LR section, done nothing for the LSAT today. I'm gonna look again at the questions I got wrong and might print out some more sets.

Moving forward with LR, I'm thinking - continue with the drilling, making a word doc with just the hardest questions, alternatively/additionally, word doc with just the questions I got wrong, and be able to completely understand why the right answer's right and my answer's wrong.

To change topics completely - Anyone looking at Berkeley?

Nope, unfortunately my GPA is sub 3.0 cause of medical reasons my first 2 1/2 years of college. So I'm locked out of most west coast schools. :(
I'm not an expert on Berkeley admissions or anything, I have lived in California all my life though and know A LOT of people that have gone there. UC Berkeley is very accommodating to people who have had medical/extenuating circumstances. If you have a medical illness, compelling story, crazy thing that happened to you then they will definitely consider you. That said, you would have to have a kickass LSAT score.

If you don't have any of those circumstances, then you would have to have a really high GPA and high LSAT score. I also know most of the UC schools usually take California residents first (went to a UC for undergrad) and then out of state students. There was a lawsuit recently because Berkeley was taking more out of state residents. I definitely would not let medical reasons and a subpar gpa deter you!
I thought Berkeley Law's answer to the in-state/out-of-state thing kind of resembled a SA/NA questions stimulus: "You have a roughly equal chance of being admitted regardless of your residency as we offer admission to an equal number of residents and nonresidents."
That seems like comparing two relative groups as if they were the same size. :|
Yeup :|

(I mean, they very well might be. I don't have the information to say otherwise.)

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Post by Alexandros » Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:12 pm

Realizing I don't really have a systematic issue with any one section or component. It's really careless mistakes, misreading, and poor accuracy on some of the most difficult question. I just have to stay vigilant, keep at it, and not get discouraged.

Making a word doc of every LR question I get wrong for reasons other then misreading, and a stack of RC passages with errors.

Y'all - Daily reminder that we can and will get there. Keep at it. We got this. 8)

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Post by ngogirl12 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:26 pm

TheMikey wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote: Question: Did you memorize all the vocabulary flashcards from the SA lesson?
No I didn't. Although I'm not against doing so, I just didn't feel it entirely necessary but it does seem like something worth at least looking at.

I do recommend however, to memorize the different common flaws that are on the LSAT that JY put in a document or something in the flaw lessons. Those are VERY helpful.
Yeah I went over it twice (the vocabulary), I knew most of the words, but there was a good 1/3 I wasn't familiar with and the way JY defines it is a bit different from google lol, so maybe it's LSAT definition. I think I might try to review it a bit every day until I have them all down.

Oh that's great to know, thanks!

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Post by ngogirl12 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:27 pm

Alexandros wrote:Realizing I don't really have a systematic issue with any one section or component. It's really careless mistakes, misreading, and poor accuracy on some of the most difficult question. I just have to stay vigilant, keep at it, and not get discouraged.

Making a word doc of every LR question I get wrong for reasons other then misreading, and a stack of RC passages with errors.

Y'all - Daily reminder that we can and will get there. Keep at it. We got this. 8)
I wish I had this problem lol

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Post by ngogirl12 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:28 pm

Just finished printing all my RC for the day.

So 4 passages for the lesson with JY and an additional 20 for drilling/hw. Don't think I will finish it all today, most likely half today half tomorrow.

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Post by Alexandros » Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:39 pm

ngogirl12 wrote:
Alexandros wrote:Realizing I don't really have a systematic issue with any one section or component. It's really careless mistakes, misreading, and poor accuracy on some of the most difficult question. I just have to stay vigilant, keep at it, and not get discouraged.

Making a word doc of every LR question I get wrong for reasons other then misreading, and a stack of RC passages with errors.

Y'all - Daily reminder that we can and will get there. Keep at it. We got this. 8)
I wish I had this problem lol

Yes, we can!
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You'll get there soon! Or maybe you'll get to skip that stage all together :wink:

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Post by Replitz » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:06 pm

Alexandros wrote:Realizing I don't really have a systematic issue with any one section or component. It's really careless mistakes, misreading, and poor accuracy on some of the most difficult question. I just have to stay vigilant, keep at it, and not get discouraged.

Making a word doc of every LR question I get wrong for reasons other then misreading, and a stack of RC passages with errors.

Y'all - Daily reminder that we can and will get there. Keep at it. We got this. 8)
I'm on board with this. If I get -3 in a LR section, usually 2 or 3 are due to stupid mistakes or misreading. I've been mostly studying at my internship, which is a pretty distracting environment. I'm optimistic then when I start studying in a more test-like environment next week that I can eliminate some of these mistakes and start hitting -0.

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Post by RamTitan » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:44 pm

Just registered for my second take; let's do this ladies and gentlemen

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Post by proteinshake » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:01 pm

did an RC section right after breakfast without any kind of warm up, probably not going to do that again! gonna workout then BR later.

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Post by Mikey » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:12 pm

Did PT46 RC during my lunch break. Felt good about 2 passages, the other 2 I'm ehh on. Will BR later. Did it in 37 mins and something seconds but forgot the seconds.
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Post by 34iplaw » Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:12 pm

On break after third section of diagnostic. Break is really long. Probably will go into BR of games right away with some tunes.

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RamTitan wrote:Just registered for my second take; let's do this ladies and gentlemen

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Post by ngogirl12 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:03 pm

Just finished doing the 5 passages that are in the lesson with JY. I have no idea how I did, I was iffy on a few questions, so we'll see.

I timed myself this time, but I continued Phase I of the Memory Method. I went: 13 minutes, 9 minutes, 12 minutes, 11 minutes, and 10 minutes.

Honestly, I didn't look at my watch much. It's weird to go from reading the passage from 2-3 minutes to reading it in 4-6 minutes using the Memory Method. I still wrote out the sentences and MP on a separate paper, so doing Phase II hopefully I'll be good.

Now, it's time to watch JY dissect the passages and go over the questions :roll: .

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Post by 34iplaw » Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:43 pm

Really need to work on my focus/attentiveness.

Going into BR now for DEC 2011 LSAT.

LR felt *really* good compare to normal. Found one section more challenging than the other. One section I went into the final 3 questions with over 5 minutes left (it may have been 10, but I messed up my note). One section I only dotted 2 questions. The other I felt a little less comfortable on. I had three marked with an answer to read back over if I ha more time and one I just ran too short on.

RC was really bad. I know that going into BR. Just didn't get to last RC passage. I need to work on reading quicker, and, given I never miss more than 2 per passage, I need to just skip the shortest passage.

One LG game messed me up for one section.

Finished the other LG section in under 30 minutes. There was a question that I have done some time ago (and I've generally made an effort to avoid doubling up), so I think that was the experimental section.

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Post by Replitz » Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:07 pm

Just took PT 43 at work.

RC -2, LR1 -1, LR1 -1, LG -0
178 composite

Tied for my best score so far. After burning out last week (scored a 170, avg is 175) and taking a few days off, feels good to get back in the swing of things. The two on RC were questions I knew I was waffling on -I had them both narrowed down to two, and in both cases selected the wrong answer :cry: - but I didn't have time to go back and double check. If I had just gone a little faster it might have been my first 180 PT... guess it gives me something to look forward to next PT :D

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Post by Alexandros » Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:09 pm

Replitz wrote:
Alexandros wrote:Realizing I don't really have a systematic issue with any one section or component. It's really careless mistakes, misreading, and poor accuracy on some of the most difficult question. I just have to stay vigilant, keep at it, and not get discouraged.

Making a word doc of every LR question I get wrong for reasons other then misreading, and a stack of RC passages with errors.

Y'all - Daily reminder that we can and will get there. Keep at it. We got this. 8)
I'm on board with this. If I get -3 in a LR section, usually 2 or 3 are due to stupid mistakes or misreading. I've been mostly studying at my internship, which is a pretty distracting environment. I'm optimistic then when I start studying in a more test-like environment next week that I can eliminate some of these mistakes and start hitting -0.
Same here for LR (most of the time, at least ... :roll: )
I think you'll very likely find that to be the case. Distracting environments definitely lend themselves to stupid mistakes.

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