The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS Forum

[34iplaw]

On a totally unrelated note, what's the best way to format your resume to get the most onto one page? I has a sucky format for my college resume and so I have to redo the entire thing for admissions.

Keep as little white space as possible. Put the font size down to like 7.5 (TNR) and use that when starting a new line. It can be a bit of a bitch to get it right, so play around with it a little bit.

Please do not do this. Minimum font size should be 11 whether your resume is for admissions or for looking for a job. People have to be able to read your resume to admit/hire you.

yeah do not go below 11. but you can go over 1 page if you need to unless the school says not to (IIRC)

I've heard different things about going over 1 page. Ann Ivey says not to, while others (I think Spivey) say it's okay as long as you have reason to. Probably gonna keep mine to one page.

If one is applying to law school, it is incredibly unlikely that they should have a resume that's longer than a page. Maybe, this is different for a phd applicant or someone with published works.

You can probably make the narrows a little shorter and decrease the size of the header and footer (this probably helps more).

[PhiladelphiaCollins]

On a totally unrelated note, what's the best way to format your resume to get the most onto one page? I has a sucky format for my college resume and so I have to redo the entire thing for admissions.

Keep as little white space as possible. Put the font size down to like 7.5 (TNR) and use that when starting a new line. It can be a bit of a bitch to get it right, so play around with it a little bit.

Please do not do this. Minimum font size should be 11 whether your resume is for admissions or for looking for a job. People have to be able to read your resume to admit/hire you.

Not what I meant, but I didn't write that particularly well either. I didn't mean change the size of the font, I meant while adding new lines/spaces change the font size to a lower number in order to make the space between lines smaller

[Mikey]

Can't come up with SHIT for my PS, ugh. I have 1 idea, but I feel like it's not a good topic, yet at the same time it can show some type of maturity, but at the same time I don't think I can write over 1 or 2 paragraphs.

[Alexandros]

Just to clarify - The Memory Method is not designed to actually be used during a 35 min timed section, right? Just writing summaries of a couple words by each paragraph seems like such a time sink.

[34iplaw]

Just to clarify - The Memory Method is not designed to actually be used during a 35 min timed section, right? Just writing summaries of a couple words by each paragraph seems like such a time sink.

I think it would be good to have it written down. 2-3 words by each paragraph shouldn't take more than 30 seconds a passage, and, personally, I think it could help you if reading the questions begins to 'taint' your understanding of the passage (which definitely has happened to me occasionally).

[Mikey]

Just to clarify - The Memory Method is not designed to actually be used during a 35 min timed section, right? Just writing summaries of a couple words by each paragraph seems like such a time sink.

The memory method is to be used when drilling, not during a full timed PT. The method is supposed to "enhance" your short term memory and help you remember structure of passages, etc. On a timed section, you won't be flipping the page over and writing/thinking each summary as they tell you to. You should during a timed section/PT however, before going into the question just glance at the passage again at the end, and make sure you understood it and know what is in each paragraph. It shouldn't take you more than a few seconds, and it will help you remember the structure better, imo.

[dietcoke1]

Hey guys, hope everyone is making progress!

For retakers, how much should we look into a PT score we've already taken as a sign of progress? For those out of fresh material, any tips on how to maximize those PT retakes?

i have stopped taking higher PT score on a non-fresh test as a sign of progress. i was getting 170s on retake PTs but got high 160s on the last couple fresh tests i took.

there is so much of little things that can inflate score if one has seen a pt before that i think it'd be a mistake to count retake score as representative. e.g. just knowing that game3 was the hard one or the one that you missed points on the last time you took the test can make you plan pacing your LG section better and can inflate the score.

i am sorta in the same situation as you as far as fresh material.

so i have begun writing down full fledged analysis of some questions in LR and RC that give me trouble. when doing this write-up, i try to relate that question to other lsat questions of similar form or play around with variation of that question or answer choices so i can extract out a solid and general rule for tackling the issue.

Great points. I suppose the only real thing you can do is ensure your mental stamina is on point for test day and breaking down every wrong question as much as possible.

Thanks.

[proteinshake]

just scored PT 55:

Score 175

LR -0
LG -0 (experimental from PT 15)
RC -4
LR -0
LG -1

just gotta keep drilling with RC I guess!

[ngogirl12]

Q for those doing the 7Sage Memory Method:
is the 3.5 minutes to read the passage supposed to include the writing of summaries of each paragraph, creating the narrative, and writing the main point of the passage?

I believe that time is only for reading the passage. I think the time you do the other stuff in is like a separate 1.5 mins or something like that[/quote

To be honest, it seems like you may be writing more than necessary.

My paragraph summaries were 2 - 5 words.

I never wrote the main point anywhere, just formulated one in my head based on the little summaries.

When doing these earlier this week, I found I performed better on passages when I wrote actual sentences than just keywords such as hypothesis, refutes hypothesis, authors opinion etc. In fact, I found so much success with this method that on real PTs I'm going to write them either next to the paragraph or under the passage. I also found that I didn't spend as much time with the questions with a higher rate of accuracy than before. To each his own though, I think try it out and see what works for you.

[Alexandros]

Just to clarify - The Memory Method is not designed to actually be used during a 35 min timed section, right? Just writing summaries of a couple words by each paragraph seems like such a time sink.

The memory method is to be used when drilling, not during a full timed PT. The method is supposed to "enhance" your short term memory and help you remember structure of passages, etc. On a timed section, you won't be flipping the page over and writing/thinking each summary as they tell you to. You should during a timed section/PT however, before going into the question just glance at the passage again at the end, and make sure you understood it and know what is in each paragraph. It shouldn't take you more than a few seconds, and it will help you remember the structure better, imo.

Yeah, I figured that would be a bit absurd.
Glancing at the passage and stuff afterwards sounds like a v. good plan though.

[Mikey]

When doing these earlier this week, I found I performed better on passages when I wrote actual sentences than just keywords such as hypothesis, refutes hypothesis, authors opinion etc. In fact, I found so much success with this method that on real PTs I'm going to write them either next to the paragraph or under the passage. I also found that I didn't spend as much time with the questions with a higher rate of accuracy than before. To each his own though, I think try it out and see what works for you.

Yeah, everyone has what works for them. I adjusted this method with my own little twist myself, which is something of personal preference. I don't write anything down anymore, but in my mind for a paragraph I'll just say something like "opponents of X theory saying why proponents are incompetent idiots", lol.

[Alexandros]

just scored PT 55:

Score 175

LR -0
LG -0 (experimental from PT 15)
RC -4
LR -0
LG -1

just gotta keep drilling with RC I guess!

DAMN, that's solid. Congrats!!

[Alexandros]

Just to clarify - The Memory Method is not designed to actually be used during a 35 min timed section, right? Just writing summaries of a couple words by each paragraph seems like such a time sink.

I think it would be good to have it written down. 2-3 words by each paragraph shouldn't take more than 30 seconds a passage, and, personally, I think it could help you if reading the questions begins to 'taint' your understanding of the passage (which definitely has happened to me occasionally).

That sounds like a good idea. You're right, 2-3 words per paragraph really shouldn't put you over the time limit. I think it might just take some getting used to for me.

[Mikey]

just scored PT 55:

Score 175

LR -0
LG -0 (experimental from PT 15)
RC -4
LR -0
LG -1

just gotta keep drilling with RC I guess!

DAMN, killing it boii!

[chicharon]

Not what I meant, but I didn't write that particularly well either. I didn't mean change the size of the font, I meant while adding new lines/spaces change the font size to a lower number in order to make the space between lines smaller

Ahh I see. Although keeping at least some white space to make it look nice and professional is good too.

[Alexandros]

I think my biggest priority right now is getting LR and RC to 30 min with the same level of accuracy. (I may or may not start doing 30 min/ sect. PTs after that point.)
RC is the only section I've almost never gotten a -0 on and don't get many -1s on, and that also needs to change if I'm going to get the score I want.

[34iplaw]

Just finished the flawed methods of reasoning homework.

93/100 correct.
(10 others flagged because I wanted to check my work / add them to my question packet, not necessarily because I was unsure)

Should be a poll option "I would pick this song if I had the chance to see Hamilton!"

[StopLawying]

PT A Game 3 is an absolute killer. Have no idea how to approach it other than brute forcing. First 3 questions are easy but the last few are hard as hell. Anyone do this game?

[Alexandros]

PT A Game 3 is an absolute killer. Have no idea how to approach it other than brute forcing. First 3 questions are easy but the last few are hard as hell. Anyone do this game?

Going to try it later on today. Will report back.

[Alexandros]

PT 5.1.6. Glad to *finally* see some questions about me on this thing.

[chicharon]

This pole is the best pole ever. Thanks amta.

I'm young, scrappy and hungry
And I'm not throwing away my shot

[34iplaw]

Any tips on what to do when an LR question (particularly a verbose one) makes your eyes glaze over? It's homework, so it's not a huge deal...but I just can't get myself to focus in on these last two.

This question about government supporting artistic endeavor and car drives breaking the law is just obnoxious (Jun 98 LR1 #22)

Parallel reasoning questions 46/50 right (2/4 wrong I changed from right answer and none vice versa CURSES!) one was #18, one was #22, and one was #25 in their respective sections.

[chicharon]

Any tips on what to do when an LR question (particularly a verbose one) makes your eyes glaze over? It's homework, so it's not a huge deal...but I just can't get myself to focus in on these last two.

For me that's a sign that I need a break. So I take a break. If a break is not possible (ex. timed sections), I force myself to slow down and parse out the stim. Sometimes I annotate, like I'd put slashes between sentences/concepts/conditional logic. Helps me focus a little better.

[Mikey]

Any tips on what to do when an LR question (particularly a verbose one) makes your eyes glaze over? It's homework, so it's not a huge deal...but I just can't get myself to focus in on these last two.

For me that's a sign that I need a break. So I take a break. If a break is not possible (ex. timed sections), I force myself to slow down and parse out the stim. Sometimes I annotate, like I'd put slashes between sentences/concepts/conditional logic. Helps me focus a little better.

34, maybe taking a break can do you well. I'm taking a break until Sunday because I'm stupid and burned out. Don't be me.

[34iplaw]

Any tips on what to do when an LR question (particularly a verbose one) makes your eyes glaze over? It's homework, so it's not a huge deal...but I just can't get myself to focus in on these last two.

For me that's a sign that I need a break. So I take a break. If a break is not possible (ex. timed sections), I force myself to slow down and parse out the stim. Sometimes I annotate, like I'd put slashes between sentences/concepts/conditional logic. Helps me focus a little better.

34, maybe taking a break can do you well. I'm taking a break until Sunday because I'm stupid and burned out. Don't be me.

I'll try that. It's just a bit of a pain with the curriculum. I don't want to fall behind the eight ball, but, then again, I don't think it's necessary that you do every question prior to the next lesson. I'll take today easy I think. Just going to go over the LR and maybe do something mindless (like inputting my missed questions into my spreadsheet)