The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS Forum

[20170322]

Y'all, once again i would like to recommend Pokemon Go. It distracts me from the LSAT in a way that ALSO gets me walking a lot, which is super good for my state of mind.

My phone is already at 47% because of it hahaha

Haha, I've had to start carrying around my charger stick. It's so addicting! Just got the water Eevee evolution and it's a fucking tank.

Might buy a portable charger or whatever it's called. You can get them pretty cheap for like 7 bucks and they charge your phone up all the way at least once.

Yeah, definitely a good investment, especially for travel.

Reviewing PT's, shocked at all the dumb mistakes I made. I think my biggest problem is not having a "sharp" mind. So I think on the test day I'll wake up EARLY (like, 4am), and then do 3 full sections with review before taking the test. I don't really get exhausted, and my score normally gets better in the second section.

[chicharon]

I also highly recommend Pokemon Go

On-topic: 16 questions away from finishing the PT 1-38 LR Cambridge packets. So near yet so far.

[Alexandros]

Kind of silly question...

Nearly all = most, correct? Or, does the LSAT just define nearly all as some?

I'd say it means most. When I read "nearly all" I'm thinking >90%

Kind of silly question...

Nearly all = most, correct? Or, does the LSAT just define nearly all as some?

yup, it means most.

Thank you, homies. I am just making sure! haha.

I'm thinking I'm going to start doing Manhattan's fake logic games or something, just as practice.

Some are pretty good.

Good to know.
Obviously fake logic games are much less desirable than real ones but I feel like seeing new games regularly would be a big help.

Going to drill games hard today and hopefully get my confidence back up, and drill a few sets of RC and at least one LR set. Then I'm thinking 40s PT tomorrow morning, with new LG at the end.

I haven't gotten through all of them, but their rule substitution game is pretty solid. (It may actually be a real game with just more questions, IIRC) It definitely feels like a LSAT LG and helps test infrequent question types. I think they've done a fairly good job of emulating some of the core issues in their games to highlight said issues.

In the end, it would actually be *really* easy to make your own LGs that are completely like the LSAT. Just change the skin/wrapping! You probably could, with flipping a rule or two that are the same but worded differently probably make strong analogs of the games without recognizing them. I assume that LSAT has to be able to protect the underlying logic, otherwise, what would be stopping me from just making every single logic game about placing items on a shelf in an order or on different shelves.

Back in $SBUX...don't really want to forfeit my table to get real food, so I may succumb to one of their crappy overpriced sandwiches... I guess I could leave my books on the table and just bring my laptop haha... I don't think anyone is trying to steal my LSAT books here.

I'd definitely be too lazy to do that in practice, but I feel like in theory you'd definitely be able to.

I was thinking a computer program would potentially be able to do that really well, too - feed in all the existing games, have it recognize patterns and whatnot, and spit out new games / questions.

[20170322]

Wow. 3/4 missed questions on RC I had put the correct answer, erased it, and put an incorrect answer.

[ngogirl12]

What happens when you neglect LG for another section for a bit never fails to amaze me. It's like I've completely forgotten how to do these.

This week / forever (until LSAT) - heavy LG first and foremost, every day. Heavy LR and RC alternated WITHOUT neglecting LG.

I completely agree with this. LG is something you cannot neglect (especially if it's your strong suit), otherwise you will just become slow and sloppy.

To me, LG is like math, you need to practice every day to maintain your mental state, rhythm, and ability to make inferences/deductions/patterns etc. and eventually own them!

[ngogirl12]

Kind of silly question...

Nearly all = most, correct? Or, does the LSAT just define nearly all as some?

I'd say it means most. When I read "nearly all" I'm thinking >90%

Kind of silly question...

Nearly all = most, correct? Or, does the LSAT just define nearly all as some?

yup, it means most.

Thank you, homies. I am just making sure! haha.

I'm thinking I'm going to start doing Manhattan's fake logic games or something, just as practice.

Some are pretty good.

Good to know.
Obviously fake logic games are much less desirable than real ones but I feel like seeing new games regularly would be a big help.

Going to drill games hard today and hopefully get my confidence back up, and drill a few sets of RC and at least one LR set. Then I'm thinking 40s PT tomorrow morning, with new LG at the end.

I haven't gotten through all of them, but their rule substitution game is pretty solid. (It may actually be a real game with just more questions, IIRC) It definitely feels like a LSAT LG and helps test infrequent question types. I think they've done a fairly good job of emulating some of the core issues in their games to highlight said issues.

In the end, it would actually be *really* easy to make your own LGs that are completely like the LSAT. Just change the skin/wrapping! You probably could, with flipping a rule or two that are the same but worded differently probably make strong analogs of the games without recognizing them. I assume that LSAT has to be able to protect the underlying logic, otherwise, what would be stopping me from just making every single logic game about placing items on a shelf in an order or on different shelves.

Back in $SBUX...don't really want to forfeit my table to get real food, so I may succumb to one of their crappy overpriced sandwiches... I guess I could leave my books on the table and just bring my laptop haha... I don't think anyone is trying to steal my LSAT books here.

This may be a stupid question, BUT where can I access these Manhattan games?

[Alexandros]

Kind of silly question...

Nearly all = most, correct? Or, does the LSAT just define nearly all as some?

I'd say it means most. When I read "nearly all" I'm thinking >90%

Kind of silly question...

Nearly all = most, correct? Or, does the LSAT just define nearly all as some?

yup, it means most.

Thank you, homies. I am just making sure! haha.

I'm thinking I'm going to start doing Manhattan's fake logic games or something, just as practice.

Some are pretty good.

Good to know.
Obviously fake logic games are much less desirable than real ones but I feel like seeing new games regularly would be a big help.

Going to drill games hard today and hopefully get my confidence back up, and drill a few sets of RC and at least one LR set. Then I'm thinking 40s PT tomorrow morning, with new LG at the end.

I haven't gotten through all of them, but their rule substitution game is pretty solid. (It may actually be a real game with just more questions, IIRC) It definitely feels like a LSAT LG and helps test infrequent question types. I think they've done a fairly good job of emulating some of the core issues in their games to highlight said issues.

In the end, it would actually be *really* easy to make your own LGs that are completely like the LSAT. Just change the skin/wrapping! You probably could, with flipping a rule or two that are the same but worded differently probably make strong analogs of the games without recognizing them. I assume that LSAT has to be able to protect the underlying logic, otherwise, what would be stopping me from just making every single logic game about placing items on a shelf in an order or on different shelves.

Back in $SBUX...don't really want to forfeit my table to get real food, so I may succumb to one of their crappy overpriced sandwiches... I guess I could leave my books on the table and just bring my laptop haha... I don't think anyone is trying to steal my LSAT books here.

This may be a stupid question, BUT where can I access these Manhattan games?

https://www.manhattanprep.com/lsat/stud ... gic-games/

I was looking for set-up drills but ran into them. I'll go with anything that's new and halfway decent.

[34iplaw]

Kind of silly question...

Nearly all = most, correct? Or, does the LSAT just define nearly all as some?

I'd say it means most. When I read "nearly all" I'm thinking >90%

Kind of silly question...

Nearly all = most, correct? Or, does the LSAT just define nearly all as some?

yup, it means most.

Thank you, homies. I am just making sure! haha.

I'm thinking I'm going to start doing Manhattan's fake logic games or something, just as practice.

Some are pretty good.

Good to know.
Obviously fake logic games are much less desirable than real ones but I feel like seeing new games regularly would be a big help.

Going to drill games hard today and hopefully get my confidence back up, and drill a few sets of RC and at least one LR set. Then I'm thinking 40s PT tomorrow morning, with new LG at the end.

I haven't gotten through all of them, but their rule substitution game is pretty solid. (It may actually be a real game with just more questions, IIRC) It definitely feels like a LSAT LG and helps test infrequent question types. I think they've done a fairly good job of emulating some of the core issues in their games to highlight said issues.

In the end, it would actually be *really* easy to make your own LGs that are completely like the LSAT. Just change the skin/wrapping! You probably could, with flipping a rule or two that are the same but worded differently probably make strong analogs of the games without recognizing them. I assume that LSAT has to be able to protect the underlying logic, otherwise, what would be stopping me from just making every single logic game about placing items on a shelf in an order or on different shelves.

Back in $SBUX...don't really want to forfeit my table to get real food, so I may succumb to one of their crappy overpriced sandwiches... I guess I could leave my books on the table and just bring my laptop haha... I don't think anyone is trying to steal my LSAT books here.

This may be a stupid question, BUT where can I access these Manhattan games?

https://www.manhattanprep.com/lsat/stud ... gic-games/

I was looking for set-up drills but ran into them. I'll go with anything that's new and halfway decent.

Oh - I thought you meant the ones in the book. Maybe I'll do these on a rainy day!

[Alexandros]

Kind of silly question...

Nearly all = most, correct? Or, does the LSAT just define nearly all as some?

I'd say it means most. When I read "nearly all" I'm thinking >90%

Kind of silly question...

Nearly all = most, correct? Or, does the LSAT just define nearly all as some?

yup, it means most.

Thank you, homies. I am just making sure! haha.

I'm thinking I'm going to start doing Manhattan's fake logic games or something, just as practice.

Some are pretty good.

Good to know.
Obviously fake logic games are much less desirable than real ones but I feel like seeing new games regularly would be a big help.

Going to drill games hard today and hopefully get my confidence back up, and drill a few sets of RC and at least one LR set. Then I'm thinking 40s PT tomorrow morning, with new LG at the end.

I haven't gotten through all of them, but their rule substitution game is pretty solid. (It may actually be a real game with just more questions, IIRC) It definitely feels like a LSAT LG and helps test infrequent question types. I think they've done a fairly good job of emulating some of the core issues in their games to highlight said issues.

In the end, it would actually be *really* easy to make your own LGs that are completely like the LSAT. Just change the skin/wrapping! You probably could, with flipping a rule or two that are the same but worded differently probably make strong analogs of the games without recognizing them. I assume that LSAT has to be able to protect the underlying logic, otherwise, what would be stopping me from just making every single logic game about placing items on a shelf in an order or on different shelves.

Back in $SBUX...don't really want to forfeit my table to get real food, so I may succumb to one of their crappy overpriced sandwiches... I guess I could leave my books on the table and just bring my laptop haha... I don't think anyone is trying to steal my LSAT books here.

This may be a stupid question, BUT where can I access these Manhattan games?

https://www.manhattanprep.com/lsat/stud ... gic-games/

I was looking for set-up drills but ran into them. I'll go with anything that's new and halfway decent.

http://lsatblog.blogspot.ca/2011/06/fre ... nload.html < A bunch more fake LG here. Can't attest to their quality or anything.

[34iplaw]

Off to grab a slice of pizza and head to library. I'm not going to spend $5.00 on turkey sandwich with a single slice of turkey

The music has increased tempo and is louder.

[proteinshake]

Off to grab a slice of pizza and head to library. I'm not going to spend $5.00 on turkey sandwich with a single slice of turkey

The music has increased tempo and is louder.

oh man I couldn't eat pizza before studying, I'd be too tired!

[ngogirl12]

Kind of silly question...

Nearly all = most, correct? Or, does the LSAT just define nearly all as some?

I'd say it means most. When I read "nearly all" I'm thinking >90%

Kind of silly question...

Nearly all = most, correct? Or, does the LSAT just define nearly all as some?

yup, it means most.

Thank you, homies. I am just making sure! haha.

I'm thinking I'm going to start doing Manhattan's fake logic games or something, just as practice.

Some are pretty good.

Good to know.
Obviously fake logic games are much less desirable than real ones but I feel like seeing new games regularly would be a big help.

Going to drill games hard today and hopefully get my confidence back up, and drill a few sets of RC and at least one LR set. Then I'm thinking 40s PT tomorrow morning, with new LG at the end.

I haven't gotten through all of them, but their rule substitution game is pretty solid. (It may actually be a real game with just more questions, IIRC) It definitely feels like a LSAT LG and helps test infrequent question types. I think they've done a fairly good job of emulating some of the core issues in their games to highlight said issues.

In the end, it would actually be *really* easy to make your own LGs that are completely like the LSAT. Just change the skin/wrapping! You probably could, with flipping a rule or two that are the same but worded differently probably make strong analogs of the games without recognizing them. I assume that LSAT has to be able to protect the underlying logic, otherwise, what would be stopping me from just making every single logic game about placing items on a shelf in an order or on different shelves.

Back in $SBUX...don't really want to forfeit my table to get real food, so I may succumb to one of their crappy overpriced sandwiches... I guess I could leave my books on the table and just bring my laptop haha... I don't think anyone is trying to steal my LSAT books here.

This may be a stupid question, BUT where can I access these Manhattan games?

https://www.manhattanprep.com/lsat/stud ... gic-games/

I was looking for set-up drills but ran into them. I'll go with anything that's new and halfway decent.

Oh great. Thanks. This might be a fun brain drill to do when I'm getting antsy with prep lol.

[20170322]

I can't work up the motivation to study. I just... I don't care right now. The higher my score gets, the lazier I get, the lower my score gets, the more motivated I get... on and on and on.

[PhiladelphiaCollins]

Had a good weekend off at a buddies cottage, now to get back to B.R.ing PT 64. Also interviewing for a job tomorrow where I have to make a mock sales pitch, so the next few days should really test my time management skills of studying/working at the same time.

[proteinshake]

I can't work up the motivation to study. I just... I don't care right now. The higher my score gets, the lazier I get, the lower my score gets, the more motivated I get... on and on and on.

+1 LOL

[34iplaw]

Sort of floundering my way through || reasoning, and I'm trying to sort of establish some check lists of things to verify that actually count towards argument structure rather than being superfluous... 29/30 so far. I feel like I get them, but I don't feel comfortable or certain in answer choices [even after getting 29/30]...

->Argument in the positive vs. contrapositive structure...

i.e. if argument is A->B, case A, therefore B...

the answer can't be A->B, case not B, therefore not A...

->Prescriptive vs. not prescriptive (not sure if this is one or note)

If conclusion prescribes something (should) vs. not

-> Absolutes vs. modifiers...

Conclusion of stimulus has a some or many the answer cannot be solely conditional statements or all statements.

[20170322]

I can't work up the motivation to study. I just... I don't care right now. The higher my score gets, the lazier I get, the lower my score gets, the more motivated I get... on and on and on.

+1 LOL

Fuck it, I'm done for the day. Gonna take a lighter approach to prep in the coming weeks.

[vodkagoesbadwhenopen]

Wow. 3/4 missed questions on RC I had put the correct answer, erased it, and put an incorrect answer.

I relate to this so much. It's the worst.

[vodkagoesbadwhenopen]

The struggle is so real today. I've had 3 cups of coffee today but I feel like I have steel plates on my eyelids trying to keep them closed.

[proteinshake]

I can't work up the motivation to study. I just... I don't care right now. The higher my score gets, the lazier I get, the lower my score gets, the more motivated I get... on and on and on.

+1 LOL

Fuck it, I'm done for the day. Gonna take a lighter approach to prep in the coming weeks.

yeah. I feel like if I go too intense on non-PT days I might compromise my performance on PT days. I'm just gonna spend today going over PT 70, writing out why wrong/right answers are wrong/right, then do some games.

[tofuspeedstar]

Is it lazy of me that I'm choosing not to work at this time and study full time for the LSAT? I got into it with someone this morning regarding it.

[Alexandros]

Is it lazy of me that I'm choosing not to work at this time and study full time for the LSAT? I got into it with someone this morning regarding it.

No, not at all. It's smart, imo. (not that there's anything wrong with working.)

[34iplaw]

Is it lazy of me that I'm choosing not to work at this time and study full time for the LSAT? I got into it with someone this morning regarding it.

Definitely not. If you are truly committed to it and treating it like a full time responsibility, it is *insanely* taxing. The only other time I've been as worn out was when I was doing 23-25 credit hours per semester senior year (was a class shy of graduating at the end of junior year... finally could take a lot of classes I really wanted to? damned pre-reqs.)

Learning new material full time is a lot more exhausting than most lines of work IMO.

[Deardevil]

Is it lazy of me that I'm choosing not to work at this time and study full time for the LSAT? I got into it with someone this morning regarding it.

What everyone above said.

The only other time I've been as worn out was when I was doing 23-25 credit hours per semester senior year

Dang, nice. I couldn't handle 18 credits. Had two consecutive semesters my junior year and said "never again."

[34iplaw]

Is it lazy of me that I'm choosing not to work at this time and study full time for the LSAT? I got into it with someone this morning regarding it.

What everyone above said.

The only other time I've been as worn out was when I was doing 23-25 credit hours per semester senior year

Dang, nice. I couldn't handle 18 credits. Had two consecutive semesters my junior year and said "never again."

Well, I'll say that per semester one was kind of a relaxing class, so maybe 20 credit hours of actual courses that require work, but the other credits still eat up time.

One other reason is the head of a certain department was trying to withhold a minor from me since I took a graduate section of a class (wasn't cross listed) so he was trying to say it wouldn't count. Rather than risk it, I just found a professor that hated him that let me enroll half way through the semester. I got an e-mail at the end of the semester to see student services since they hadn't added it, and they were like, "are you going to be able to handle this?" They didn't seem to realize that I had already finished the course and my undergrad at that point.

Fun times...barely made it through the first half of those semesters (had some half semester courses in those credit hours)