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What score did you get?

Mythical 180
4
4%
170-179
22
22%
160-169
45
46%
150-159
21
21%
140-149
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130-139
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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by AbbeyS » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:49 pm

AllIn1212 wrote:I'm sorry you're having a tough one, lsathellhole :(

In unrelated news, I had caffeine yesterday for the first time in a month. Just a can of coke zero in the afternoon. I was singing songs in bed at 2am :x
Yeah the only caffeine I drink is my coffee before PTs & it makes me extremely hyper lol. I was so worried I'd have to pee before the post-section 3 break. I made it though, phewww.

Idk if it's bc I don't have it often, but I absolutely CRASHED after I got home yesterday. Like sooo tired all day long.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by Morcartwright » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:51 pm

lsat_hellhole wrote:
LOL... Logic games are far from a waste of time. They provide situations in which essential skills in any legal discipline are involved. First, you must understand rules and exactly what they say and how they apply. This is much like understanding exactly what a law says and when it applies. Next, you have chronological ordering of events which is an essential skill in a number of cases where you must arrange evidence that isn't necessarily automatically put in order for you. Grouping things together also can be applied to a number of cases. One of the most important things is your ability to connect things, in other words to make inferences. Many things you do in law school and out will involve making inferences from information you are given in order to rightly deduct conclusions from that info. While I agree the time aspect is a little bit more intense then it would be outside LSAT, it's needed to see those who manage to work much faster than others. I would suggest you learn to enjoy features of logic games or you could have a terrible time in law school and beyond. Best regards, and wish you the best on your score.
If it makes you feel better to justify how well you learned to game the exam and prioritize speed and test gaming over genuinely preparing yourself for law school and a law career, then I hope you're happy. Don't deceive yourself, that's all it is. You don't have any special aptitude over anyone else just because you can work fast on the LG. Your arrogance is astonishing. But then you're no different than the other arrogant inept a**holes I've seen inexplicably get into good law schools because they simply learned how to game the LSAT. So this better explains the paradox. Anyway, congrats. Again, I hope you're happy with your LG game awesomeness. I hope you're happy in your law school spot that you think you earned-- I'm sure you will be. Have a nice day. I'm done with this board.
Your assumptions are extreme in this post. I have practiced hard to get a better score on all the sections. With that said, I started out testing in the 140s and now I test into the 160 range on most tests. The entire test is called a test for a reason. My LG may have been good on this test, as I recognized I made some key deductions but I also know that there were a couple questions that I wasn't completely sure if I had the right inference.
All the LSAT is testing is, do you have or can you acquire the skills that the test puts forth? The fact that they put out the real past LSAT tests is an indicator that they are not trying to trick you or beat you at a game. Instead they want you to work hard to get used to the skills required in the LSAT because these skills also apply in law school and careers after which is what I eluded to with LG.
On a last note, you are incorrect, just because I have a butthole does not make me one. I haven't got into the law school I would like to go to, but I am working hard to do so. I hope you achieve your goals as well. Best of luck.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by dontsaywhatyoumean » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:53 pm

As someone who probably got at most -6 wrong on both LR sections combined, and -6 on the RC section, but probably went about -12 to -15 on LG section, I do wish that the LSAC agreed with LSAThellhole and removed the section, but I was scoring much better on LG until largely ignoring it for the few weeks preceding this February sitting.

Oh well :(

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by Morcartwright » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:54 pm

AbbeyS wrote:
AllIn1212 wrote:I'm sorry you're having a tough one, lsathellhole :(

In unrelated news, I had caffeine yesterday for the first time in a month. Just a can of coke zero in the afternoon. I was singing songs in bed at 2am :x
Yeah the only caffeine I drink is my coffee before PTs & it makes me extremely hyper lol. I was so worried I'd have to pee before the post-section 3 break. I made it though, phewww.

Idk if it's bc I don't have it often, but I absolutely CRASHED after I got home yesterday. Like sooo tired all day long.
I drank coffee before everyone of my LSAT pt to simulate the actual test cause I knew I would get coffee going to the test. So there was a lot of times I drank caffeine at like 5pm before taking a PT only to keep me up till like 2 am. The worst was I wanted to go to bed early before the LSAT this time and was in bed at 9pm but absolutely could not sleep. By 1am I was praying to just give me 5 hours of good sleep. Lol

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by AbbeyS » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:57 pm

Morcartwright wrote:
AbbeyS wrote:
AllIn1212 wrote:I'm sorry you're having a tough one, lsathellhole :(

In unrelated news, I had caffeine yesterday for the first time in a month. Just a can of coke zero in the afternoon. I was singing songs in bed at 2am :x
Yeah the only caffeine I drink is my coffee before PTs & it makes me extremely hyper lol. I was so worried I'd have to pee before the post-section 3 break. I made it though, phewww.

Idk if it's bc I don't have it often, but I absolutely CRASHED after I got home yesterday. Like sooo tired all day long.
I drank coffee before everyone of my LSAT pt to simulate the actual test cause I knew I would get coffee going to the test. So there was a lot of times I drank caffeine at like 5pm before taking a PT only to keep me up till like 2 am. The worst was I wanted to go to bed early before the LSAT this time and was in bed at 9pm but absolutely could not sleep. By 1am I was praying to just give me 5 hours of good sleep. Lol

I didn't drink caffeine the day before the test cause I wanted it to feel extra energizing the day of, and I also wanted to sleep. But my nerves kept me up for a while. OMG I was so nervous for no reason. My mind was racing a mile a minute. Luckily I still managed to get to sleep by 11 though

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by Morcartwright » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:07 pm

AbbeyS wrote:
Morcartwright wrote:
AbbeyS wrote:
AllIn1212 wrote:I'm sorry you're having a tough one, lsathellhole :(

In unrelated news, I had caffeine yesterday for the first time in a month. Just a can of coke zero in the afternoon. I was singing songs in bed at 2am :x
Yeah the only caffeine I drink is my coffee before PTs & it makes me extremely hyper lol. I was so worried I'd have to pee before the post-section 3 break. I made it though, phewww.

Idk if it's bc I don't have it often, but I absolutely CRASHED after I got home yesterday. Like sooo tired all day long.
I drank coffee before everyone of my LSAT pt to simulate the actual test cause I knew I would get coffee going to the test. So there was a lot of times I drank caffeine at like 5pm before taking a PT only to keep me up till like 2 am. The worst was I wanted to go to bed early before the LSAT this time and was in bed at 9pm but absolutely could not sleep. By 1am I was praying to just give me 5 hours of good sleep. Lol

I didn't drink caffeine the day before the test cause I wanted it to feel extra energizing the day of, and I also wanted to sleep. But my nerves kept me up for a while. OMG I was so nervous for no reason. My mind was racing a mile a minute. Luckily I still managed to get to sleep by 11 though
That was really smart, I should of considered that but must admit I have a caffeine habit.. Nerves were probably what kept me up too but I also like the fact that once we get to the test center there's like 45 minutes of following instructions and filling in bubbles for names and stuff. It's actually a helpful warmup rather then just getting to the test center and then getting a test and them just saying And GO.
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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by Shib26 » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:11 pm

In a little over 24 hours this thread is already longer than the study group thread. I love it when bitterness brings people together.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by Li'l Sebastian » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:13 pm

Shib26 wrote:In a little over 24 hours this thread is already longer than the study group thread. I love it when bitterness brings people together.
Nothing brings people together like derisiveness.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by AbbeyS » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:22 pm

Shib26 wrote:In a little over 24 hours this thread is already longer than the study group thread. I love it when bitterness brings people together.
Nothing says "kumbaya" like a good old fashion "I think I fucked up the test that determines my future" consensus

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by lsat_hellhole » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:28 pm

Morcartwright wrote:
lsat_hellhole wrote:
LOL... Logic games are far from a waste of time. They provide situations in which essential skills in any legal discipline are involved. First, you must understand rules and exactly what they say and how they apply. This is much like understanding exactly what a law says and when it applies. Next, you have chronological ordering of events which is an essential skill in a number of cases where you must arrange evidence that isn't necessarily automatically put in order for you. Grouping things together also can be applied to a number of cases. One of the most important things is your ability to connect things, in other words to make inferences. Many things you do in law school and out will involve making inferences from information you are given in order to rightly deduct conclusions from that info. While I agree the time aspect is a little bit more intense then it would be outside LSAT, it's needed to see those who manage to work much faster than others. I would suggest you learn to enjoy features of logic games or you could have a terrible time in law school and beyond. Best regards, and wish you the best on your score.
If it makes you feel better to justify how well you learned to game the exam and prioritize speed and test gaming over genuinely preparing yourself for law school and a law career, then I hope you're happy. Don't deceive yourself, that's all it is. You don't have any special aptitude over anyone else just because you can work fast on the LG. Your arrogance is astonishing. But then you're no different than the other arrogant inept a**holes I've seen inexplicably get into good law schools because they simply learned how to game the LSAT. So this better explains the paradox. Anyway, congrats. Again, I hope you're happy with your LG game awesomeness. I hope you're happy in your law school spot that you think you earned-- I'm sure you will be. Have a nice day. I'm done with this board.
Your assumptions are extreme in this post. I have practiced hard to get a better score on all the sections. With that said, I started out testing in the 140s and now I test into the 160 range on most tests. The entire test is called a test for a reason. My LG may have been good on this test, as I recognized I made some key deductions but I also know that there were a couple questions that I wasn't completely sure if I had the right inference.
All the LSAT is testing is, do you have or can you acquire the skills that the test puts forth? The fact that they put out the real past LSAT tests is an indicator that they are not trying to trick you or beat you at a game. Instead they want you to work hard to get used to the skills required in the LSAT because these skills also apply in law school and careers after which is what I eluded to with LG.
On a last note, you are incorrect, just because I have a butthole does not make me one. I haven't got into the law school I would like to go to, but I am working hard to do so. I hope you achieve your goals as well. Best of luck.
I will respond once more and then I'm done with this pointless time sink..

Talk about extreme... the exaggerated importance you place on the LG on predicting law school performance is extreme and absurd. It's especially absurd considering you admit you haven't even been to law school. It's so absurd, in fact, that it isn't worth my time to even engage with you anymore.

Also, your preposterous & uber-condescending statement:
<quote>"You're welcome. It seems that some people here could use valuable insight to help them understand the circumstances behind the LSAT.
Life isn't always about bigger and better, sometimes it's about enough, and these boards are fine for me for now. You shouldn't attempt to put people down based on your predispositions to things. Thank you for voicing your opinions though, I find it helpful to understand others views.</quote>

As for "putting people down," I started off doing no such thing. I started by offering my *general* opinion about the LG section, not singling anyone out or getting personal with anyone. Then it was "ABBEY" who started getting personal and putting me down in her response with her "ad hominem" attack on me, her mischaracterization of my performance on the LG section and her incorrect assumption (based on faulty reasoning) that just because I complain about the LG means that I performed poorly on it.

Some personal observations and advice: It seems like your superior performance on gaming the LG has made you a bit overconfident of your general reasoning skills, as best measured by the LR. So how did you perform on the LR? Hmmm? Obviously, based on your responses here, you have some serious deficits. You come to flawed conclusions without weighing the evidence, as you did by selectively disregarding the insults made by others against me (including your own) and taking my responses to insults out of context and mischaracterizing them.
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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by AbbeyS » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:31 pm

All those in favor of ignoring lsathellhole for being an annoyingly negative fun-sucker, say "I"

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This is what LSAC wants guys, they want to divide us! First they make you sleep deprived then they make you question reasons for certain sections on the test. Stand Together!

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Post by fishpaste1 » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:46 pm

Ahh. Can always count on some good ol' fashioned drama in the Waiter's Thread.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by lsat_hellhole » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:49 pm

AbbeyS wrote:All those in favor of ignoring lsathellhole for being an annoyingly negative fun-sucker, say "I"
Fine AbbeyS. Seeing that you have made 354 posts in these forums, I see that you have some serious seniority here. I'm just a newbie here, while this seems to be your home. So I'll just bow out and let you continue to be happy in your little world. I say "I"!

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Post by ugg » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:50 pm

who are the main players ITT?

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lsat_hellhole wrote:
AbbeyS wrote:All those in favor of ignoring lsathellhole for being an annoyingly negative fun-sucker, say "I"
Fine AbbeyS. Seeing that you have made 354 posts in these forums, I see that you have some serious seniority here. I'm just a newbie here, while this seems to be your home. So I'll just bow out and let you continue to be happy in your little world. I say "I"!
Oh lighten up hahah.
354 posts is the result of being in 2 waiters threads. You're welcome here just like anybody else is. Just lighten up & quit looking for fights. Everyone is stressed about the test. Take it easy lol

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by Morcartwright » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:56 pm

I will respond once more and then I'm done with this pointless time sink..

Talk about extreme... the exaggerated importance you place on the LG on predicting law school performance is extreme and absurd. It's especially absurd considering you admit you haven't even been to law school. It's so absurd, in fact, that it isn't worth my time to even engage with you anymore.

Also, your preposterous & uber-condescending statement:
<quote>"You're welcome. It seems that some people here could use valuable insight to help them understand the circumstances behind the LSAT.
Life isn't always about bigger and better, sometimes it's about enough, and these boards are fine for me for now. You shouldn't attempt to put people down based on your predispositions to things. Thank you for voicing your opinions though, I find it helpful to understand others views.</quote>

As for "putting people down," I started off doing no such thing. I started by offering my opinion about the LG section. Then it was "ABBEY" who started getting personal and putting me down in her response with her "ad hominem" attack on me, her mischaracterization of my performance on the LG section and her incorrect assumption (based on faulty reasoning) that just because I complain about the LG means that I performed poorly on it.

Some personal observations and advice: It seems like your superior performance on gaming the LG has made you a bit overconfident of your general reasoning skills, as best measured by the LR. So how did you perform on the LR? Hmmm? Obviously, based on your responses here, you have some serious deficits. You come to flawed conclusions without weighing the evidence, as you did by selectively disregarding the insults made by others against me (including your own) and taking my responses to insults out of context and mischaracterizing them.[/quote]

The valuable insight is a matter of perspective, if someone can gain a new perspective then it could be considered valuable. I'm not saying my opinion is the only one to consider, you have your own. But I tend to think that it's more likely that the LSAT will continue to have LG whether not its not considered useful by some. I'm just stating my opinion why it's useful. Maybe I messed it up, but it can still be useful.

I have serious deficits? No, actually, I have a balanced budget this year. I come to flawed conclusions? No, actually I have not come to one flawed conclusion if you take my statements to be true. I'm condescending? Probably more than the average person. As some might say, "don't hate the player, hate the game". The game is logic and you've made it clear you're not a fan. Don't take it out on me.

I already eluded to the fact that LG was not a perfect section so I don't see where you're coming from with your comments. As for my LR sections, I found that the first fifteen on each section was of average difficulty while the latter portion was a bit harder then the average. Hard to know for sure how I did, but I will be sure to let you know.

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ugg wrote:sup lads
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Post by LexieZ19 » Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:36 pm

I had experimental LG. I went LG, LG, LR, LR, RC. RC was hard but LR was fair. Having 8 LG in a row makes it all blend together. I know Paris, Madrid was real, and KLG was real, but do not remember what other two were real.

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Post by AbbeyS » Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:44 pm

I know previously people said that your experimental section was always in the first 3 sections, but based on yesterday, it's obvious that's not always the case. Some people had 2 LG after the break, for example.

Still trying to decide which of my LR was experimental though. Do you guys think it's most likely that it was one of my first 3? I hope so

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LexieZ19 wrote:I had experimental LG. I went LG, LG, LR, LR, RC. RC was hard but LR was fair. Having 8 LG in a row makes it all blend together. I know Paris, Madrid was real, and KLG was real, but do not remember what other two were real.
I'm in the same boat. I can't remember for the life of me whether the real one was first or second.

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