The Official June 2015 Study Group Forum

pushsum123 · Post by **pushsum123** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:33 pm

Dirigo wrote:
pushsum123 wrote:Nice flamingos. And congratulations on whatever you won to be sent to the wilderness... You didn't tell me congrats were in order, bae
Well since we're on a date now, what are your career goals?

something connected to human rights

Big Red · Post by **Big Red** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:43 pm

Dirigo wrote:So are you going to send me love letters while I'm away all summer sans internet?
Zac has been but I'm really sick of all the bubble letters in crayon and am ready to trade up.

lol what?

Smallville · Post by **Smallville** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:57 pm

finally got a much needed haircut

thought y'all should know.... not gunna PW

179orBust · Post by **179orBust** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:14 pm

Just started drilling strengthen and weaken questions (all difficulty levels) and have been doing terribly. Went 53/65 + this was untimed.
Anyone have any advice for these question types? How to approach the problems, answer choices, etc. Would be extremely helpful. TIA

justabitunusual · Post by **justabitunusual** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:19 pm

pushsum123 wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
pushsum123 wrote:Nice flamingos. And congratulations on whatever you won to be sent to the wilderness... You didn't tell me congrats were in order, bae
Well since we're on a date now, what are your career goals?
something connected to human rights

you lost him at hello

WhiskeyAndCupcakes · Post by **WhiskeyAndCupcakes** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:22 pm

justabitunusual · Post by **justabitunusual** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:24 pm

179orBust wrote:Just started drilling strengthen and weaken questions (all difficulty levels) and have been doing terribly. Went 53/65 + this was untimed.
Anyone have any advice for these question types? How to approach the problems, answer choices, etc. Would be extremely helpful. TIA

Sorry I can't advise...i never drilled LR (just used an app on my phone from time to time and did the Manhattan book, and LR Bible...no drilling though, bc I'd prob kill myself (jk, but if i had had more time i would have and just the fact that you're doing the drilling will in itself become helpful as time goes on and you become more and more familiar w the material) i would think. They do have explanations on certain websites though so maybe go look at those for the ones you are really struggling with.

Also make sure you Blind review (idk if this is a thing w LR drilling, but i think i would have had to do this)

Eta: second part scooped

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:26 pm

179orBust wrote:Just started drilling strengthen and weaken questions (all difficulty levels) and have been doing terribly. Went 53/65 + this was untimed.
Anyone have any advice for these question types? How to approach the problems, answer choices, etc. Would be extremely helpful. TIA

You need to be very strong in identifying the conclusion and premise(s). Without knowing 100% the argument, you're going to be tricked by answer choices.

Also, four answers are 100% wrong and only one answer choice is 100% right. I know that seems obvious, but oftentimes we take it for granted and assume there is grey area and wiggle room. Look at the answer choices very carefully. There is never a situation where two answer choices are good and they're asking you to pick the better of the two.
4 AC's are dead wrong.

Going off of that, I tackle the AC's by eliminating wrong answers. I always utilize a process of elimination. Don't necessary look for the correct answer; instead look for the incorrect answers.
Weaken AC's cast doubt on the conclusion and strengthen AC's eliminate some of the doubt.

Sorry my advice is general question strategy, but if you force your brain to be very efficient and in tune with the task at hand, you should get better and better with practice.

179orBust · Post by **179orBust** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:29 pm

WhiskeyAndCupcakes wrote:
179orBust wrote:Just started drilling strengthen and weaken questions (all difficulty levels) and have been doing terribly. Went 53/65 + this was untimed.
Anyone have any advice for these question types? How to approach the problems, answer choices, etc. Would be extremely helpful. TIA
I'd just really focus on the ones you got wrong. Figure out why the correct answer was better than the one you picked, and then see if there are any patterns in your misses. Drilling *more* isn't as effective as really honing in on the ones you missed before you proceed.

Totally agreed, review is key. Gonna right out full explanations for those questions I got wrong. Did this for NA questions and now I get around 95% of them correct. Those problems were assigned as HW in a prep course I am currently taking and I needed to finish them before my next class. Maybe I shouldn't have proceeded without reviewing the ones I got wrong. Thanks for the help.

179orBust · Post by **179orBust** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:33 pm

Dirigo wrote:
179orBust wrote:Just started drilling strengthen and weaken questions (all difficulty levels) and have been doing terribly. Went 53/65 + this was untimed.
Anyone have any advice for these question types? How to approach the problems, answer choices, etc. Would be extremely helpful. TIA
You need to be very strong in identifying the conclusion and premise(s). Without knowing 100% the argument, you're going to be tricked by answer choices.

Also, four answers are 100% wrong and only one answer choice is 100% right. I know that seems obvious, but oftentimes we take it for granted and assume there is grey area and wiggle room. Look at the answer choices very carefully. There is never a situation where two answer choices are good and they're asking you to pick the better of the two.
4 AC's are dead wrong.

Going off of that, I tackle the AC's by eliminating wrong answers. I always utilize a process of elimination. Don't necessary look for the correct answer; instead look for the incorrect answers.
Weaken AC's cast doubt on the conclusion and strengthen AC's eliminate some of the doubt.

Sorry my advice is general question strategy, but if you force your brain to be very efficient and in tune with the task at hand, you should get better and better with practice.

Thanks Rigo. One thing I've noticed though is that I often make an additional assumption to justify an answer choice. I continue to do this and sometimes two answer choices will look very attractive. Have to learn not to make these leaps.

santoki · Post by **santoki** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:34 pm

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pushsum123 · Post by **pushsum123** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:35 pm

santoki wrote:
Smallville wrote:finally got a much needed haircut thought y'all should know.... not gunna PW
*literally begging TLS to ask him to PW*

True lol

justabitunusual · Post by **justabitunusual** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:35 pm

santoki wrote:
Smallville wrote:finally got a much needed haircut thought y'all should know.... not gunna PW
*literally begging TLS to ask him to PW*

PLEASE PW SMALLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WhiskeyAndCupcakes · Post by **WhiskeyAndCupcakes** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:36 pm

179orBust · Post by **179orBust** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:39 pm

WhiskeyAndCupcakes wrote:
179orBust wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
179orBust wrote:Just started drilling strengthen and weaken questions (all difficulty levels) and have been doing terribly. Went 53/65 + this was untimed.
Anyone have any advice for these question types? How to approach the problems, answer choices, etc. Would be extremely helpful. TIA
You need to be very strong in identifying the conclusion and premise(s). Without knowing 100% the argument, you're going to be tricked by answer choices.

Also, four answers are 100% wrong and only one answer choice is 100% right. I know that seems obvious, but oftentimes we take it for granted and assume there is grey area and wiggle room. Look at the answer choices very carefully. There is never a situation where two answer choices are good and they're asking you to pick the better of the two.
4 AC's are dead wrong.

Going off of that, I tackle the AC's by eliminating wrong answers. I always utilize a process of elimination. Don't necessary look for the correct answer; instead look for the incorrect answers.
Weaken AC's cast doubt on the conclusion and strengthen AC's eliminate some of the doubt.

Sorry my advice is general question strategy, but if you force your brain to be very efficient and in tune with the task at hand, you should get better and better with practice.
Thanks Rigo. One thing I've noticed though is that I often make an additional assumption to justify an answer choice. I continue to do this and sometimes two answer choices will look very attractive. Have to learn not to make these leaps.
Identifying that is huge! Slow down until NOT doing that is natural. Focus on what is said in the stem and not what is unsaid . But, now that you see where you tend to go off track, it is SO much easier to correct it.

Thanks, appreciate it!

179orBust · Post by **179orBust** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:42 pm

Also just realized that I reached 100+ posts. 8,230 posts behind Rigo.

justabitunusual · Post by **justabitunusual** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:47 pm

179orBust wrote:Also just realized that I reached 100+ posts. 8,230 posts behind THE Rigo.

ftfy

Shakawkaw · Post by **Shakawkaw** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:49 pm

179orBust wrote:Also just realized that I reached 100+ posts. 8,230 posts behind Rigo.

This is fucking hilarious. 180.

Shakawkaw · Post by **Shakawkaw** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:51 pm

Can people PW again? Tyia.

santoki · Post by **santoki** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:51 pm

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TheWalkingDebt · Post by **TheWalkingDebt** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:51 pm

179orBust wrote:Also just realized that I reached 100+ posts. 8,230 posts behind Rigo.

That Ben Carson av is ironic right? PLEASE SAY YES.

Gluteus · Post by **Gluteus** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:54 pm

Just looked at myself topless for the first time since I began studying for the LSAT.

I'm never taking off my clothes again.

santoki · Post by **santoki** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:54 pm

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Shakawkaw · Post by **Shakawkaw** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:58 pm

santoki wrote:can you start us off instead of pushing it

Yes.

IHATEOP.jpg

justabitunusual · Post by **justabitunusual** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:00 am

Shakawkaw wrote:
santoki wrote:can you start us off instead of pushing it
Yes.

[img]totalcuteness[/img]

YASSSSS...finally caught a Shak Pw...it was everything i ever hoped for . . . and more.

eta: PLUS do you see how easy that was gais, asked and delivered w no fuss, no self esteem probz, just did it.