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spark up.
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Post by proteinshake » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:46 pm

okay so I'm BRing a PT the next day after I took it and it is waaaay better than doing it the same day. I have enough energy to basically go over every problem and feel like I'm learning more from review.

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Post by Mikey » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:59 pm

proteinshake wrote:okay so I'm BRing a PT the next day after I took it and it is waaaay better than doing it the same day. I have enough energy to basically go over every problem and feel like I'm learning more from review.
exactly, that's what i endorse. i feel like BRing the same day makes you half-ass the review process

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Post by Alexandros » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:00 pm

Going to do every PT in the library from now on (or another place that's not my apartment) and in the morning. Or at least as many as possible.

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Post by Mikey » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:05 pm

Alexandros wrote:Going to do every PT in the library from now on (or another place that's not my apartment) and in the morning. Or at least as many as possible.
I would do the same, but my closest library is super ghetto and loud, like, beyond just normal talking. It's FILLLLED with teenagers who just go and hang out, and little kids running around. Like shit, I want a place with a slight distraction but not THAT amount of distractions lol.

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Post by 34iplaw » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:05 pm

LawTweet wrote:Well clearly my 173 from yesterday was a true fluke. Took another practice test in identical conditions this morning. It felt equally hard. I got 165.

-4 LR
-2 LR
-3 RC
-8 LG LOL

So far my PTs have been 163, 173, 165.

Hoping I can break into consistent 170s before the September test. Sigh.

you lg score screwed you... youd be in low 170s with -9 on most tests ... check for misbubbles ... lg is definitely improvable ...

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Post by ngogirl12 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:09 pm

proteinshake wrote:
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proteinshake wrote: I don't even know how to make coffee (even using a coffee machine), I've never done it! (not a coffee drinker)
Me neither. I don't like coffee I prefer herbal and green tea :).
same! I have a bunch of Twinnings green, black, and jasmine green tea.
Twinsies!! Haha I have boxes of different flavors of the Yogi teas: black, green, and fruit :). I also love the tangerine orange by Celestial. I would totally go for Numi tea but their soo expensive, I think $9 a box!

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Post by Alexandros » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:11 pm

TheMikey wrote:
Alexandros wrote:Going to do every PT in the library from now on (or another place that's not my apartment) and in the morning. Or at least as many as possible.
I would do the same, but my closest library is super ghetto and loud, like, beyond just normal talking. It's FILLLLED with teenagers who just go and hang out, and little kids running around. Like shit, I want a place with a slight distraction but not THAT amount of distractions lol.
God, that's terrible. I'd be opting out of that too.

My library's extremely quiet, but obviously a bit less comfortable than my apartment. And I'm concerned that my rolling desk chair may be inflating my scores. :P

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Post by Mikey » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:14 pm

Almost forgot to provide you guys with the very crucial Sunday morning Starbucks PW!

*cough* be jealous alex

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Post by LawTweet » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:18 pm

34iplaw wrote:
LawTweet wrote:Well clearly my 173 from yesterday was a true fluke. Took another practice test in identical conditions this morning. It felt equally hard. I got 165.

-4 LR
-2 LR
-3 RC
-8 LG LOL

So far my PTs have been 163, 173, 165.

Hoping I can break into consistent 170s before the September test. Sigh.

you lg score screwed you... youd be in low 170s with -9 on most tests ... check for misbubbles ... lg is definitely improvable ...
I need a really strong strategy for moving forward with LG. So far I've been going through and practicing random games. Repeating them until I get 100% and feel like I "owned" the game. I've coupled that with some of the 7Sage tutorials. So far I don't seem to be really budging.

I am truly willing to put in 2+ hours each weekday in LG and 4+ hours on each weekend day.

I feel like I can probably get better at LR and RC just by continuing with practice and review, though maybe that's wrong.

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Post by proteinshake » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:29 pm

just finished up reviewing and scoring PT 70:

Score 174
BR 176

LR -1
RC -2
LG -0
RC: -3 (experimental from PT 23)
LR -4 (was very hard and had 26 questions, also the last section :roll:)

I didn't think I would score this high on this one but when I was doing BR, I realized I wasn't changing any of my answers and was confident about what I chose. I guess how you feel during the test won't necessarily reflect how you will score! overall happy I can score this on a very recent PT, my biggest worry was a score change once I shifted into the 70s.

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Post by Alexandros » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:31 pm

TheMikey wrote:Almost forgot to provide you guys with the very crucial Sunday morning Starbucks PW!

*cough* be jealous alex

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Post by Alexandros » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:32 pm

proteinshake wrote:just finished up reviewing and scoring PT 70:

Score 174
BR 176

LR -1
RC -2
LG -0
RC: -3 (experimental from PT 23)
LR -4 (was very hard and had 26 questions, also the last section :roll:)

I didn't think I would score this high on this one but when I was doing BR, I realized I wasn't changing any of my answers and was confident about what I chose. I guess how you feel during the test won't necessarily reflect how you will score! overall happy I can score this on a very recent PT, my biggest worry was a score change once I shifted into the 70s.
NICE :D Congrats!!!

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Post by 34iplaw » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:41 pm

LawTweet wrote:
34iplaw wrote:
LawTweet wrote:Well clearly my 173 from yesterday was a true fluke. Took another practice test in identical conditions this morning. It felt equally hard. I got 165.

-4 LR
-2 LR
-3 RC
-8 LG LOL

So far my PTs have been 163, 173, 165.

Hoping I can break into consistent 170s before the September test. Sigh.

you lg score screwed you... youd be in low 170s with -9 on most tests ... check for misbubbles ... lg is definitely improvable ...
I need a really strong strategy for moving forward with LG. So far I've been going through and practicing random games. Repeating them until I get 100% and feel like I "owned" the game. I've coupled that with some of the 7Sage tutorials. So far I don't seem to be really budging.

I am truly willing to put in 2+ hours each weekday in LG and 4+ hours on each weekend day.

I feel like I can probably get better at LR and RC just by continuing with practice and review, though maybe that's wrong.
Damn - my phone typos have been quoted in digital permanence!

I think you need to provide some insight into what is going wrong... do you...

1) just not do them fast enough?

2) get worked up if you don't make initial inferences up front (on the flip side, are you struggling to do this when you should?

3) do you recognize repeat questions? (this is kind of important...the first game from June 2011 I want to say literally had like three out of five questions being the same exact questions)

I'm not there yet either, but, based on my experience and what I have read here, do games repeatedly until you can consistently do a game under the 7sage time (or close to it)... watch the explanation for each game IMO and try for perfect solutions/set ups on each game at least once... you could finish a game on time but be missing why you could have done it faster.

On #2, I think I suffer from this sometimes...I get worked up if I don't make that initial deduction. At that point, it is probably a rules driven game...just make sure that you always fundamentally understand the rules. Also, make sure you are looking for easy answers... never brute force a problem prior to looking for obvious answers.

48/50 methods of reasoning questions on homework... (I wanted to leave 10 for tomorrow, but I thought there were 60)

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Post by Alexandros » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:46 pm

Phewf, got at least 4 copies of every LG from 1-38. I'm hoping these will fit in my bag.

Lunch, then RC and LR, and the 50s/60s/70s that I've done.

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Post by LawTweet » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:17 pm

34iplaw wrote:
LawTweet wrote:
34iplaw wrote:
LawTweet wrote:Well clearly my 173 from yesterday was a true fluke. Took another practice test in identical conditions this morning. It felt equally hard. I got 165.

-4 LR
-2 LR
-3 RC
-8 LG LOL

So far my PTs have been 163, 173, 165.

Hoping I can break into consistent 170s before the September test. Sigh.

you lg score screwed you... youd be in low 170s with -9 on most tests ... check for misbubbles ... lg is definitely improvable ...
I need a really strong strategy for moving forward with LG. So far I've been going through and practicing random games. Repeating them until I get 100% and feel like I "owned" the game. I've coupled that with some of the 7Sage tutorials. So far I don't seem to be really budging.

I am truly willing to put in 2+ hours each weekday in LG and 4+ hours on each weekend day.

I feel like I can probably get better at LR and RC just by continuing with practice and review, though maybe that's wrong.
Damn - my phone typos have been quoted in digital permanence!

I think you need to provide some insight into what is going wrong... do you...

1) just not do them fast enough?

2) get worked up if you don't make initial inferences up front (on the flip side, are you struggling to do this when you should?

3) do you recognize repeat questions? (this is kind of important...the first game from June 2011 I want to say literally had like three out of five questions being the same exact questions)

I'm not there yet either, but, based on my experience and what I have read here, do games repeatedly until you can consistently do a game under the 7sage time (or close to it)... watch the explanation for each game IMO and try for perfect solutions/set ups on each game at least once... you could finish a game on time but be missing why you could have done it faster.

On #2, I think I suffer from this sometimes...I get worked up if I don't make that initial deduction. At that point, it is probably a rules driven game...just make sure that you always fundamentally understand the rules. Also, make sure you are looking for easy answers... never brute force a problem prior to looking for obvious answers.

48/50 methods of reasoning questions on homework... (I wanted to leave 10 for tomorrow, but I thought there were 60)
I get 150% time and this time (June 2011 PT) I still ran out of time. For the record, I have a visual memory disorder, which I think contributes to my logic games struggle. Remembering the rules and visualizing game boards are serious deficits for me.

I got the first game done in like 3 or 4 minutes. I missed 1 each in the first 3 games and then got all but 1 wrong on the last game. It was with the last one that I ran out of time.

I'm going to review and redo them for the next couple hours so hopefully I'll have more specific info on why I royally effed up.

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Post by Alexandros » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:18 pm

Y'all it's the 24th today.
2 MONTHS.
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Post by Rupert Pupkin » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:18 pm

TheMikey wrote:
Alexandros wrote:Going to do every PT in the library from now on (or another place that's not my apartment) and in the morning. Or at least as many as possible.
I would do the same, but my closest library is super ghetto and loud, like, beyond just normal talking. It's FILLLLED with teenagers who just go and hang out, and little kids running around. Like shit, I want a place with a slight distraction but not THAT amount of distractions lol.
Haha luckily my new library is super serious and quite here in NY, but my friend is studying back at my alma mater and he says its been loud because so many people are squading up there and just playing pokemon (apparently great place to lure and camp) haha

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Post by 34iplaw » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:33 pm

LawTweet wrote:
34iplaw wrote:
LawTweet wrote:
34iplaw wrote:
LawTweet wrote:Well clearly my 173 from yesterday was a true fluke. Took another practice test in identical conditions this morning. It felt equally hard. I got 165.

-4 LR
-2 LR
-3 RC
-8 LG LOL

So far my PTs have been 163, 173, 165.

Hoping I can break into consistent 170s before the September test. Sigh.

you lg score screwed you... youd be in low 170s with -9 on most tests ... check for misbubbles ... lg is definitely improvable ...
I need a really strong strategy for moving forward with LG. So far I've been going through and practicing random games. Repeating them until I get 100% and feel like I "owned" the game. I've coupled that with some of the 7Sage tutorials. So far I don't seem to be really budging.

I am truly willing to put in 2+ hours each weekday in LG and 4+ hours on each weekend day.

I feel like I can probably get better at LR and RC just by continuing with practice and review, though maybe that's wrong.
Damn - my phone typos have been quoted in digital permanence!

I think you need to provide some insight into what is going wrong... do you...

1) just not do them fast enough?

2) get worked up if you don't make initial inferences up front (on the flip side, are you struggling to do this when you should?

3) do you recognize repeat questions? (this is kind of important...the first game from June 2011 I want to say literally had like three out of five questions being the same exact questions)

I'm not there yet either, but, based on my experience and what I have read here, do games repeatedly until you can consistently do a game under the 7sage time (or close to it)... watch the explanation for each game IMO and try for perfect solutions/set ups on each game at least once... you could finish a game on time but be missing why you could have done it faster.

On #2, I think I suffer from this sometimes...I get worked up if I don't make that initial deduction. At that point, it is probably a rules driven game...just make sure that you always fundamentally understand the rules. Also, make sure you are looking for easy answers... never brute force a problem prior to looking for obvious answers.

48/50 methods of reasoning questions on homework... (I wanted to leave 10 for tomorrow, but I thought there were 60)
I get 150% time and this time (June 2011 PT) I still ran out of time. For the record, I have a visual memory disorder, which I think contributes to my logic games struggle. Remembering the rules and visualizing game boards are serious deficits for me.

I got the first game done in like 3 or 4 minutes. I missed 1 each in the first 3 games and then got all but 1 wrong on the last game. It was with the last one that I ran out of time.

I'm going to review and redo them for the next couple hours so hopefully I'll have more specific info on why I royally effed up.
Okay. Understood. You may have spent too much time on the van game (IMO). There is a really strong inference up front that makes the game a lot easier... you probably got it in *some* respect, but not in it's totality. As for the cup ball game, I almost got royally screwed by that game, but I decided to just jump into the questions lacking a really good diagram... that's more of a rules / distribution driven game... if you didn't consider numerical distribution, always do... there are some games (usually the harder ones) where they make the games really easy.

Maybe doing some sudoku or other games may help you with the visual memory disorder issues? I really have zero idea about that, but, perhaps, there is someone you can contact in regards to this.

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Post by 34iplaw » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:36 pm

Going to do this LR, do some RC, and I may just crank out dozens of games in one sitting if it's too noisy for close reading... games don't require quite the same level of focus for me.

Also, anyone here familiar with D.veloped? 'Stereo Drugs,' while dated, is probably one of the best 'mash-ups' of all time, and I tend to hate mash-ups. I use mash-ups loosely, as it is only two songs. Forgot About Dre + Stereo Love is oddly amazing...it kind of feels like the precursor to Matoma.

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Post by Alexandros » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:51 pm

jagerbom79 wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
Alexandros wrote:Going to do every PT in the library from now on (or another place that's not my apartment) and in the morning. Or at least as many as possible.
I would do the same, but my closest library is super ghetto and loud, like, beyond just normal talking. It's FILLLLED with teenagers who just go and hang out, and little kids running around. Like shit, I want a place with a slight distraction but not THAT amount of distractions lol.
Haha luckily my new library is super serious and quite here in NY, but my friend is studying back at my alma mater and he says its been loud because so many people are squading up there and just playing pokemon (apparently great place to lure and camp) haha
That's hilarious :lol:

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Post by 20170322 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:51 pm

Just went -0, 26 minutes on PT 70's RC.

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SweetTort wrote:Just went -0, 26 minutes on PT 70's RC.

Drill. Baby. Drill. It really does work.
See, you still got it BOY!!

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Post by Mikey » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:11 pm

Redid that LG section from yesterday that gave me trouble. Took me VERY long to do those 4 games, that I decided to not even score it. So I just did that same LG section not too long ago.

PT 32
LG: -1 (37:43)
I really need to work on my timing for some of these games. Game 2 and 3 took me the longest, game 1 and 4 both took me around under 8 mins each. At first I was like "dafuk" with game 2 but then I realized what kind of game it was with the somewhat weird game pieces. Will redo this section tomorrow for better timing and then move onto another LG section.

also, from this morning I did 2 RC passages
RC 1: 7/8 (was stuck between A and C for 1 question and chose C because I misread a part of it. A was right)
RC 2: 7/7

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Post by 20170322 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:17 pm

Think I need to start drilling LR more intensely. Went -2 on my last test, and just went -2 on a drilling set. Can't let my strengths become my weaknesses.

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Post by Rupert Pupkin » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:51 pm

TheMikey wrote:
SweetTort wrote:Just went -0, 26 minutes on PT 70's RC.

Drill. Baby. Drill. It really does work.
See, you still got it BOY!!
CRUSHING it!

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