The Official December 2014 Study Group Forum

justabitunusual · Post by **justabitunusual** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:36 am

Dirigo wrote:All the usual (and unusual) suspects are checking in.
I hate that you're here but the selfish social aspect of me is happy.
Welcome!

<3 u Rigo! Also been checking out some of the other threads, and shocked that there are other relevant threads...so many...kinda overwhelming, y'all some busy posters!

hillz wrote:
cavalier2015 wrote:is it possible to do NoodleyOne's retake plan in the next 7 weeks? or do I need more time for that
Yes, I did it. I didn't do as many PTs as he recommends but everyone is different. It was a great jumping off point for me. Seven weeks is plenty if you had already built a good base from your first take and if you're willing to give up quite a bit of your free time. Drill baby drill.

This is good to know! I may try this!

justabitunusual · Post by **justabitunusual** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:40 am

sfoglia wrote:
justabitunusual wrote: Hey girl! I didn't "see" you much yesterday, but I take it you didn't have to/ don't want to retake?
Bahahaha you are funny. I do have to retake; I won't see any money with this score, and I'm definitely locked out of the T6. Also, I know I can do better and prideful. But, not December, I don't think. I won't be able to do applications and work and studying. At least not well.

I hope your retaking goes amazing! I will be LSAT cheerleader for December 2014ers and retakers alike.

Thanks! I wish I had more time and could take again later, oh well.

sfoglia · Post by **sfoglia** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:42 am

justabitunusual wrote: Thanks! I wish I had more time and could take again later, oh well.

Except I will be like 500 freaking years old by the time I matriculate!

You'll be fantastic, don't worry. You are in GREAT company here.

lawjag2015 · Post by **lawjag2015** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:45 am

Did two sections this morning PT 12: LR -1, RC -3. Drilled some basic linear, 4 games in 27 minutes, -1. Long way to go....

justabitunusual · Post by **justabitunusual** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:47 am

I'm already 501 yrs old sfogs, so there's that.

justabitunusual · Post by **justabitunusual** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:48 am

lawjag2015 wrote:Did two sections this morning PT 12: LR -1, RC -3. Drilled some basic linear, 4 games in 27 minutes, -1. Long way to go....

Where do you have the PT's? Did you have to order books, or do you know of an easier way to access some PT's?

Smallville · Post by **Smallville** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:48 am

lawjag2015 wrote:Did two sections this morning PT 12: LR -1, RC -3. Drilled some basic linear, 4 games in 27 minutes, -1. Long way to go....

so jelly

jam313 · Post by **jam313** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:50 am

justabitunusual wrote:
jam313 wrote:Anyone have a link for LR breakdown by question type that has newer PTs in the 60s? I've been using the one on lsatblog but it only goes to 59, and I tried searching here but couldn't find it.
Have you tried here: http://www.manhattanlsat.com/resources/ ... ations.cfm

I haven't used this site very much yet, just heard of it myself a few days ago, but hope it proves to be helpful for the same reason.

I believe that just links to the forum explanations per question.
I did more searching and came across this:

http://www.cambridgelsat.com/resources/ ... fications/

I make my own LR drill packets so I'll supplement this with the lsatblog list I'm already using.

justabitunusual · Post by **justabitunusual** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:56 am

ok cool...will have to add that site to the long list of study prep site I have going

ntuyz · Post by **ntuyz** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:16 pm

lawjag2015 wrote:Did two sections this morning PT 12: LR -1, RC -3. Drilled some basic linear, 4 games in 27 minutes, -1. Long way to go....

Not sure pre-PT 35 drills are very telling.
Post-PT 35 era: MUCH harder LG.
RC also has become tougher in recent years.

ETA:
Post-PT 35 era: VERY different LG.
Recent years: Harder LG and RC.

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:21 pm

ugg · Post by **ugg** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:22 pm

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Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:25 pm

Rhymes With Wolf · Post by **Rhymes With Wolf** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:27 pm

Good morning. Today marks the first day of the last time I will study for this test.

theugg wrote:Not used to threads that are this serious.

It's taking every fiber of my being not to post a gif right now.

GreenTee · Post by **GreenTee** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:31 pm

ntuyz · Post by **ntuyz** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:31 pm

Dirigo wrote:
ntuyz wrote:
lawjag2015 wrote:Did two sections this morning PT 12: LR -1, RC -3. Drilled some basic linear, 4 games in 27 minutes, -1. Long way to go....
Not sure pre-PT 35 drills are very telling.
Post-PT 35 era: MUCH harder LG.
RC also has become tougher in recent years.
Not true at all. 20ish-40ish are generally the hardest LG's. Since then it's been much easier until the most recent few LSATs. To each his own though.

Really? LG from PT 72 is like the hardest ever.
Also:

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Smallville · Post by **Smallville** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:32 pm

Rhymes With Wolf wrote:Good morning. Today marks the first day of the last time I will study for this test.

theugg wrote:Not used to threads that are this serious.
It's taking every fiber of my being not to post a gif right now.

we do accept gifs here on occasion(normally from me

), we just dont have them go out of control :p

ugg · Post by **ugg** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:35 pm

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Rhymes With Wolf · Post by **Rhymes With Wolf** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:42 pm

GreenTee wrote:Thinking about doing something a little crazy. I'm scheduling 22 PTs between now and Dec, but I'm going to double them up. Instead of adding two experimental sections for a 6 section PT (as I had been doing before Sept), I'm going to just do two 4 section PTs back to back every saturday and sunday. Obviously I'll ease off the week before the test to mitigate any burnout I might be feeling, but I really want to hit this retake hard right off the bat.

I would suggest spacing out your tests for ample time to review. Remember that the test is just a measurement, a snapshot of what you know or are capable of at that moment. Use the test to identify weaknesses and make them your beotch before the next one. Taking another test the day after, without having reviewed properly and addressed your areas for improvement, will very likely just reflect the same level of ability, or habits, or comfort, etc.

The back to back PT idea, or even the testing in sequential days, has it's place. It can add good variety and build endurance, but it might be a bit much to do every single time you PT. These are just my two cents, your mileage may vary of course.

nlee10 · Post by **nlee10** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:45 pm

I lurked around a lot yesterday when scores were coming out. It appears that a lot of people scored below their PT average. As a first time taker in December, what are some tips to help me stay calm for test day other than being prepared LSAT-wise?

ETA: On my BP diagnostic test last month, I bombed the first section (RC) due to nerves and got a 151. Would've gotten a 154 if I scored my avg RC section score.

ErgoSum · Post by **ErgoSum** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:53 pm

Posting this here to see what you all think:

How would you all go about making the decision between retaking in December vs. February? I'm not sure I would even get waitlisted at some of my reach schools with a 168, making a Feb retake kind of pointless, right?

mornincounselor · Post by **mornincounselor** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:55 pm

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Smallville · Post by **Smallville** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:56 pm

ErgoSum wrote:Posting this here to see what you all think:

How would you all go about making the decision between retaking in December vs. February? I'm not sure I would even get waitlisted at some of my reach schools with a 168, making a Feb retake kind of pointless, right?

tough decision, Id say it depends on how you feel closer to the Dec test... if you feel ready then go for it, if not than Feb. But hard to say without knowing if youd get accepted into the schools your retaking for... hopefully some1 will have better advice

Carla36 · Post by **Carla36** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:00 pm

ChemEng1642 wrote:
Carla36 wrote:Hey, I don't normally post but I was wondering if anyone has an opinion on what I should do. Just got a 169 on the September test ad have a 3.87 gpa, trying to go to NYU or Columbia. If you were me, would you retake this December or feel confident with the 169? I'm not applying this cycle, but I exhausted most of the PTs. Any advice on whether you'd take the December test in my shoes will help ease my anxiety
I would retake if for no other reason than $$$. I had exhausted all but one PT when I took the September exam and I think it's fine. Granted, I took the February LSAT first so there was a larger time gap for me, but the important thing is to understand why you got the problems right and wrong - regardless of whether or not you remember the correct answer. If you can't think of why an answer is right but "have a feeling" that it is right then for your purposes you got the answer wrong. Try gauging your scores that way to get a more accurate assessment while PT'ing in the future.

Also which PTs have you exhausted - have you done the older ones too?

I've done pretty much all of them from pt 36 (i few i have done more than once) excluding about 3-5 of the most recent ones. But, I've noticed the earlier ones to be significantly more easy compared to say the more recent ones. Thanks for the advice

ugg · Post by **ugg** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:02 pm

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