June 2016 - Waiter's (+170 or bust) GRAY DAY HAS AWOKEN FROM ITS SLUMBER Forum

[Christinabruin]

Does anyone remember an LR question about Homer's Iliad and something about mature/immature trees? I had 3 LR sections so...

[bananus]

mod edit: do not post what type of question was on the test. user has been banned.

[pretzeltime]

you guys should collectively complain to LSAC. trying finding others through TLS, Reddit, etc.

But only if you think it really screwed you. An investigation will hold up scores being released and if something is founded then you either get a free retake (without learning your score) or else you just suck it up and take the score you got today.

this sucks dick.

it sucks major dick. also, glad that the universe brought us together Jeevesy so I could confirm this madness the second I got home.......... ugh

yeah thank fuck youre here.

how do you think you did on the test though?

my main dilemma is that there was a shit easy LG and the parts of the test that i didnt rush on due to our shitbrain proctor's timing I actually felt pretty good about. I cant really say if ill actually do better on a properly timed retake.

you those affected should file complaint to lsac regardless. that dumb proctor should have his pay docked at the least.

If the proctor really cut off multiple sections right at 33 minutes, I suspect he may have been a saboteur. That's a pretty bizarre mistake.

33 min sharp for multiple sections does sound bizarre. could it be that the proctor began to count time since the end of last section, so that the announcement at the end of prev section, the brief gap between sections, and instructions at the beginning of section all added up to about 2 mins?

It must be something like you described. I don't think he could accidentally put 33 on the clock. But he might have started his clock earlier than when he said "turn the page to blah blah and begin".

He was very casual with the "put your pencils down" lines and "open your book lines". As in mumbled and somehow made it slightly unclear. It really really should not be unclear. This is my second time taking the test (and obviously I've taken many standardized tests before this). The formality of the proctors rigidly reading the script slowly and clearly may have seemed slightly excessive but now I REALLY really get that.

He just did not do that.

[dodint]

Does anyone remember an LR question about Homer's Iliad and something about mature/immature trees? I had 3 LR sections so...

Yeah, the Illiad question dealt with Troy not being as big as they thought when they found it.

The tree question was weird, didn't like it. Something to do with allowing invasive moths to breed uncontrolled to stop forest fires.

[pretzeltime]

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[ayylmao]

The poll proves that we're ether a grossly unrepresentative sample, are extremely overconfident, or both.

Just as one slice of proof of the former, I was getting pretty freaked out about my admissions photo from this forum because there was a fucking door in the background. Then they of course let me in without a second glance, and there was a little kerfuffle with this girl whose photo was literally 1cm big... and she was still allowed to take it!!!

I mean obviously better safe than sorry but that was really crazy. Like there were no more than 25 pixels in her entire photo.

Lmao. Yeah we're a really neurotic bunch. When you get to the test center you realize just how much more prepared you are than 95% of other takers. Like people were getting caught with mechanical pencils and motherfucking cell phones. Cell phones.

The guy in front of me whipped out his phone at the end of the writing sample, lol.

That takes some serious stones. (And a complete inability to think rationally.) I mean to risk going through all that and then having it all washed away...

[acidwash]

god i hate the writing section. what a waste of time. i wrote for about 10 minutes then just sat there and looked at the wall.

[Keilz]

God I'm so paranoid that I did the games too shoddily and messed up a conditional rule because I was going SO fast. Not in terms of solving, but like writing hypotheticals. I know there is no point in thinking of it I just need to manage expectations

[dodint]

Writing sample was okay since I took a class on it in college as an undergrad. I wrote until halfway down the bottom of the back and then said fuck it and stared off into space for 10 minutes before it ended.

[appind]

you guys should collectively complain to LSAC. trying finding others through TLS, Reddit, etc.

But only if you think it really screwed you. An investigation will hold up scores being released and if something is founded then you either get a free retake (without learning your score) or else you just suck it up and take the score you got today.

this sucks dick.

it sucks major dick. also, glad that the universe brought us together Jeevesy so I could confirm this madness the second I got home.......... ugh

yeah thank fuck youre here.

how do you think you did on the test though?

my main dilemma is that there was a shit easy LG and the parts of the test that i didnt rush on due to our shitbrain proctor's timing I actually felt pretty good about. I cant really say if ill actually do better on a properly timed retake.

you those affected should file complaint to lsac regardless. that dumb proctor should have his pay docked at the least.

If the proctor really cut off multiple sections right at 33 minutes, I suspect he may have been a saboteur. That's a pretty bizarre mistake.

33 min sharp for multiple sections does sound bizarre. could it be that the proctor began to count time since the end of last section, so that the announcement at the end of prev section, the brief gap between sections, and instructions at the beginning of section all added up to about 2 mins?

It must be something like you described. I don't think he could accidentally put 33 on the clock. But he might have started his clock earlier than when he said "turn the page to blah blah and begin".

He was very casual with the "put your pencils down" lines and "open your book lines". As in mumbled and somehow made it slightly unclear. It really really should not be unclear. This is my second time taking the test (and obviously I've taken many standardized tests before this). The formality of the proctors rigidly reading the script slowly and clearly may have seemed slightly excessive but now I REALLY really get that.

He just did not do that.

i think it may matter which sections he mistimed. did he mistime the 1st section?

ideally end section announcement + a few seconds gap to turn the page to next section + begin section announcement all should still add up to less than a minute.

the proctors, at least the one who keeps time runs the show, have to really get how important time is on this test.

[GotLost]

God I'm so paranoid that I did the games too shoddily and messed up a conditional rule because I was going SO fast. Not in terms of solving, but like writing hypotheticals. I know there is no point in thinking of it I just need to manage expectations

I feel the same way. LG was my first section and I was so nervous during the first game. It felt easy, but I can't shake the feeling I missed some inference and messed the entire thing up.

[Mikey]

The poll proves that we're ether a grossly unrepresentative sample, are extremely overconfident, or both.

Just as one slice of proof of the former, I was getting pretty freaked out about my admissions photo from this forum because there was a fucking door in the background. Then they of course let me in without a second glance, and there was a little kerfuffle with this girl whose photo was literally 1cm big... and she was still allowed to take it!!!

I mean obviously better safe than sorry but that was really crazy. Like there were no more than 25 pixels in her entire photo.

Lmao. Yeah we're a really neurotic bunch. When you get to the test center you realize just how much more prepared you are than 95% of other takers. Like people were getting caught with mechanical pencils and motherfucking cell phones. Cell phones.

The guy in front of me whipped out his phone at the end of the writing sample, lol.

That takes some serious stones. (And a complete inability to think rationally.) I mean to risk going through all that and then having it all washed away...

Yeah he was an idiot, but the proctors weren't looking his way when he was using it, so he got lucky.

[somethingElse]

Writing sample was okay since I took a class on it in college as an undergrad. I wrote until halfway down the bottom of the back and then said fuck it and stared off into space for 10 minutes before it ended.

[A. Nony Mouse]

Quick reminder: do NOT post what *kinds* of questions were on the test. Topics are fair game, but the nature of the question (strengthening, circular game, etc.) is not. Thanks.

[Christinabruin]

Does anyone remember an LR question about Homer's Iliad and something about mature/immature trees? I had 3 LR sections so...

Yeah, the Illiad question dealt with Troy not being as big as they thought when they found it.

The tree question was weird, didn't like it. Something to do with allowing invasive moths to breed uncontrolled to stop forest fires.

Okay just to be sure then the Illiad question was one of the two real LR sections?

[Keilz]

God I'm so paranoid that I did the games too shoddily and messed up a conditional rule because I was going SO fast. Not in terms of solving, but like writing hypotheticals. I know there is no point in thinking of it I just need to manage expectations

I feel the same way. LG was my first section and I was so nervous during the first game. It felt easy, but I can't shake the feeling I missed some inference and messed the entire thing up.

Maybe I'm so used to naturally doing it, but I didn't even look for big inferences. My teacher taught us this weird brute forcing method, so I've learned to combine the two. However I'm scared about the long game three...like I ALWAYS check my diagram of the rules before continuing, but sometimes if it's a conditional, I'll write if in front, and sometimes I don't and I just don't know I wish I could just check with someone to make sure I had the rule right. I couldn't have gotten all the answers while missing a rule right? I confirm that the other ones are wrong...

[dodint]

Does anyone remember an LR question about Homer's Iliad and something about mature/immature trees? I had 3 LR sections so...

Yeah, the Illiad question dealt with Troy not being as big as they thought when they found it.

The tree question was weird, didn't like it. Something to do with allowing invasive moths to breed uncontrolled to stop forest fires.

Okay just to be sure then the Illiad question was one of the two real LR sections?

Yeah. I had it and my experimental was an RC section.

[etramak]

Does anyone remember an LR question about Homer's Iliad and something about mature/immature trees? I had 3 LR sections so...

Definitely remember the iliad and yes that god damn moth question! I stared at that for quite a bit but I think I was making it harder than it actually was.

[pretzeltime]

i think it may matter which sections he mistimed. did he mistime the 1st section?

ideally end section announcement + a few seconds gap to turn the page to next section + begin section announcement all should still add up to less than a minute.

the proctors, at least the one who keeps time runs the show, have to really get how important time is on this test.

I mean again, I can't tell you how the fuck he managed to fuck it up.

He may have mistimed the first section but not in the same way that he mistimed the third through writing section.

First section I *think* he ended a bit early (1 min or 30 seconds or so) because so many people were trying to go to the bathroom. I was still nervous at that time and not suspecting that he would be fucking up the time so I really can't remember precisely.

That was not the same as the 3rd through writing when he systematically ended 2 minutes early.

I WISH I could tell you HOW someone with a digital timer manages that sort of inconsistency or fuck up. But I don't really know how he did it.

[acidwash]

God I'm so paranoid that I did the games too shoddily and messed up a conditional rule because I was going SO fast. Not in terms of solving, but like writing hypotheticals. I know there is no point in thinking of it I just need to manage expectations

I feel the same way. LG was my first section and I was so nervous during the first game. It felt easy, but I can't shake the feeling I missed some inference and messed the entire thing up.

thirded. weird because i've never had test anxiety but it me hard as soon as the test started with LG. i had a couple minutes to go back and fix the one answer i knew was probably wrong and check over the rest. i'm having a hard time shaking the feeling as well, but from what people have said here it may have just been that easy of a game.

[Lnm013]

What do y'all mean by -12 for the curve? Does that mean that they take however many you answered correctly and add 12 to it then use the score conversion chart? I don't understand the " - " part of it.

[dodint]

What do y'all mean by -12 for the curve? Does that mean that they take however many you answered correctly and add 12 to it then use the score conversion chart? I don't understand the " - " part of it.

Think of it as Total Test Questions minus the Curve. Then the scale starts there.

101-12, or whatever.

[pizzagoblin]

Having LG first really threw me off. My anxiety made me shaky, and I ended up running out of time on the last game and guessing on four. I absolutely murdered the experimental LG, so I was bummed to find out the one I screwed up counts.

Surprised to find out everyone thought RC was hard. I'm hoping this bolsters my score with the ones I got wrong in LG.

There were some damn hard LR questions throughout that I didn't have time to go back and check.

Thinking I scored below my PTs, probably around 167-170. Sigh.

[GotLost]

God I'm so paranoid that I did the games too shoddily and messed up a conditional rule because I was going SO fast. Not in terms of solving, but like writing hypotheticals. I know there is no point in thinking of it I just need to manage expectations

I feel the same way. LG was my first section and I was so nervous during the first game. It felt easy, but I can't shake the feeling I missed some inference and messed the entire thing up.

thirded. weird because i've never had test anxiety but it me hard as soon as the test started with LG. i had a couple minutes to go back and fix the one answer i knew was probably wrong and check over the rest. i'm having a hard time shaking the feeling as well, but from what people have said here it may have just been that easy of a game.

I really hope so. I'm just going to try and let it go and wait for scores to come out.

[Keilz]

What do y'all mean by -12 for the curve? Does that mean that they take however many you answered correctly and add 12 to it then use the score conversion chart? I don't understand the " - " part of it.

Think of it as Total Test Questions minus the Curve. Then the scale starts there.

101-12, or whatever.

To clarify, the -x is how many it takes to get a 170