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Re: What #2 Pencil Should I use?
Jeez, separate vs attached eraser. WE HAVEN'T EVEN TOUCHED ON THIS TOPIC YET. I fear we still have a lot more to suss out in this thread before I feel comfortable asking for it to be stickied at the top for subsequent newbie TLS 0Ls
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Re: What #2 Pencil Should I use?
Picked up some Black Warriors today. Really excited.
My local store did not have black Tri-cons, but they did have the yellow ones. Are they TTT? They also had some Ticon Noirs, they looked interesting but i did not purchase without checking ITT.
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/3 ... Pencils-2/
My local store did not have black Tri-cons, but they did have the yellow ones. Are they TTT? They also had some Ticon Noirs, they looked interesting but i did not purchase without checking ITT.
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/3 ... Pencils-2/
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Re: What #2 Pencil Should I use?
Then suss we must.deputydog wrote:Jeez, separate vs attached eraser. WE HAVEN'T EVEN TOUCHED ON THIS TOPIC YET. I fear we still have a lot more to suss out in this thread before I feel comfortable asking for it to be stickied at the top for subsequent newbie TLS 0Ls
Things yet to be sorted:
+proper (and improper) pencil grip
+bubbling methods
+erasing methods
+various pencil mishaps and how to prevent/handle them
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Re: What #2 Pencil Should I use?
I scored a 175 with a yellow tricon, def not TTTrebexness wrote:Picked up some Black Warriors today. Really excited.
My local store did not have black Tri-cons, but they did have the yellow ones. Are they TTT? They also had some Ticon Noirs, they looked interesting but i did not purchase without checking ITT.
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/3 ... Pencils-2/
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Re: What #2 Pencil Should I use?
We should run this list by Dr. Dre and ManoftheHour to see if we are missing anything.mlansky wrote:Then suss we must.deputydog wrote:Jeez, separate vs attached eraser. WE HAVEN'T EVEN TOUCHED ON THIS TOPIC YET. I fear we still have a lot more to suss out in this thread before I feel comfortable asking for it to be stickied at the top for subsequent newbie TLS 0Ls
Things yet to be sorted:
+proper (and improper) pencil grip
+bubbling methods
+erasing methods
+various pencil mishaps and how to prevent/handle them
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Re: What #2 Pencil Should I use?
Also optimum pencil length.
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Re: What #2 Pencil Should I use?
But of course.deputydog wrote: We should run this list by Dr. Dre and ManoftheHour to see if we are missing anything.
Honestly thought about adding that one. I'm sure I can come up with a reasonable sounding explanation as to why I prefer 6" to 7".rebexness wrote:Also optimum pencil length.
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Well its really important where you grip it, so depending on your hand size a 6" might be better than 7".mlansky wrote:But of course.deputydog wrote: We should run this list by Dr. Dre and ManoftheHour to see if we are missing anything.
Honestly thought about adding that one. I'm sure I can come up with a reasonable sounding explanation as to why I prefer 6" to 7".rebexness wrote:Also optimum pencil length.
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Re: What #2 Pencil Should I use?
Lately I've been experimenting with something sort of like this, just for LR (where I only use my pencil to circle, cross out, and checkmark). Got a -0 on the LR section I tried this with today, got a -4 on the section I took holding the pencil normally. I think such results speak for themselves.rebexness wrote:Well its really important where you grip it, so depending on your hand size a 6" might be better than 7".mlansky wrote:But of course.deputydog wrote: We should run this list by Dr. Dre and ManoftheHour to see if we are missing anything.
Honestly thought about adding that one. I'm sure I can come up with a reasonable sounding explanation as to why I prefer 6" to 7".rebexness wrote:Also optimum pencil length.
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PM me when we get to bubbling methods.
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That looks like an uncomfortable and weak grip. Are you able to accurately bubble the answer sheet like that?mlansky wrote:Lately I've been experimenting with something sort of like this, just for LR (where I only use my pencil to circle, cross out, and checkmark). Got a -0 on the LR section I tried this with today, got a -4 on the section I took holding the pencil normally. I think such results speak for themselves.
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Re: What #2 Pencil Should I use?
That would be my concern as well, I'm willing to try anything for that 180 though.SteelPenguin wrote:That looks like an uncomfortable and week grip. Are you able to accurately bubble the answer sheet like that?mlansky wrote:Lately I've been experimenting with something sort of like this, just for LR (where I only use my pencil to circle, cross out, and checkmark). Got a -0 on the LR section I tried this with today, got a -4 on the section I took holding the pencil normally. I think such results speak for themselves.
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i agree to the above
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Re: What #2 Pencil Should I use?
No, I bubbled with a regular grip, but for LR I only bubble every page or so (which reminds me, I think we should add to that list a discussion of how we bubble each section. I haven't worked out a system yet but I feel strongly that there's time to be saved from the use of a good method) but while I was crossing out and circling on the actual page, as well as putting checkmarks and question marks, I had my grip pretty much like this and it really felt like I was in the driver's seat. I don't have a good explanation as to why, but it may have increased my attention, felt sort of like after you rearrange the furniture in your house, it just made me feel fresher.SteelPenguin wrote:That looks like an uncomfortable and week grip. Are you able to accurately bubble the answer sheet like that?mlansky wrote:Lately I've been experimenting with something sort of like this, just for LR (where I only use my pencil to circle, cross out, and checkmark). Got a -0 on the LR section I tried this with today, got a -4 on the section I took holding the pencil normally. I think such results speak for themselves.
ETA- It's weak, but definitely not uncomfortable.
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Re: What #2 Pencil Should I use?
When it comes to grip, I prefer a tighter grip on the LR and RC sections. The thing is, your marking on those sections are minimal when compared to the LGs. This way, you can afford to use a tighter grip and not have your hand cramp up.
When it comes to the LGs, a slightly looser grip is preferred. You'll be doing way more markings than the other two sections so you'll really need your hand to not cramp up. In addition to this, a looser grip = lighter markings, which in return = easier to erase. For the people that don't save their work, this is pretty important. For the questions that need you to come up with hypos, this can be damn important, especially if this is at the end of the section in which marking your main setup can save you time (since it's the last question, you wouldn't need to save your main setup by coming up with a mini setup).
We do need a serious discussion on pencil sharpeners though. I've yet to see one useful response to that question.
When it comes to the LGs, a slightly looser grip is preferred. You'll be doing way more markings than the other two sections so you'll really need your hand to not cramp up. In addition to this, a looser grip = lighter markings, which in return = easier to erase. For the people that don't save their work, this is pretty important. For the questions that need you to come up with hypos, this can be damn important, especially if this is at the end of the section in which marking your main setup can save you time (since it's the last question, you wouldn't need to save your main setup by coming up with a mini setup).
We do need a serious discussion on pencil sharpeners though. I've yet to see one useful response to that question.
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We've got time. Is the question just what sharpener is best? Because I've got one of these: http://amzn.com/B0030I26LK on the way, but I think I'll just use it for presharpening, then during the PT, I'll just use a compartmented sharpener, even if it isn't the same level of quality. I've gotten my during-game-sharpening down to a single sharpen, so long as I have 3 or 4 well-pointed before the PT, so the quality of the during-game-sharpen isn't as crucial.ManoftheHour wrote:We do need a serious discussion on pencil sharpeners though. I've yet to see one useful response to that question.
If anyone knows where to find a sharpener that will fit this pencil, plz let me know so I can try it out on a PT: http://www.dickblick.com/products/faber ... o-pencils/
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Re: What #2 Pencil Should I use?
We should ask BP Shinners and the Manhattan guys on this board to publish the winner of the pencil poll in their next books as TLS' endorsed pencil.
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Re: What #2 Pencil Should I use?
+1deputydog wrote:We should ask BP Shinners and the Manhattan guys on this board to publish the winner of the pencil poll in their next books as TLS' endorsed pencil.
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Dr. Dre wrote:+1deputydog wrote:We should ask BP Shinners and the Manhattan guys on this board to publish the winner of the pencil poll in their next books as TLS' endorsed pencil.
Just asked in BP Shinners study thread
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deputydog wrote:Dr. Dre wrote:+1deputydog wrote:We should ask BP Shinners and the Manhattan guys on this board to publish the winner of the pencil poll in their next books as TLS' endorsed pencil.
Just asked in BP Shinners study thread
i just saw it
one thing: they don't advise CVS pencils in their books. They said it here:
http://blueprintprep.com/lsatblog/lsat- ... uary-lsat/
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That's it. We have to boycott Blueprint until they fix this egregious mistake.Dr. Dre wrote:deputydog wrote:Dr. Dre wrote:+1deputydog wrote:We should ask BP Shinners and the Manhattan guys on this board to publish the winner of the pencil poll in their next books as TLS' endorsed pencil.
Just asked in BP Shinners study thread
i just saw it
one thing: they don't advise CVS pencils in their books. They said it here:
http://blueprintprep.com/lsatblog/lsat- ... uary-lsat/
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Re: What #2 Pencil Should I use?
NoodleyOne wrote:
That's it. We have to boycott Blueprint until they fix this egregious mistake.
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Re: What #2 Pencil Should I use?
Bros, it seems Mr. Shinners is receptive to our request. It is amazing the amount of impact this thread has had in such a short amount of time.
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Chill, sociable test prep companies have proven to be really reasonable in working with TLS members. Its imperative that one has a proper pencil to take the LSAT.deputydog wrote:Bros, it seems Mr. Shinners is receptive to our request. It is amazing the amount of impact this thread has had in such a short amount of time.
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Prep companies like Blueprint want the best for their students. It's only reasonable that they would want to make a recommendation on the proper pencil(s).rebexness wrote:Chill, sociable test prep companies have proven to be really reasonable in working with TLS members. Its imperative that one has a proper pencil to take the LSAT.deputydog wrote:Bros, it seems Mr. Shinners is receptive to our request. It is amazing the amount of impact this thread has had in such a short amount of time.
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