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get a little sauced.
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spark up.
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apply to law school.
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Post by Alexandros » Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:13 am

Going to do two RC sections before work tomorrow, then after work - a bit of everything and hopefully an old PT but we'll see.

I have ID the flaw and strengthen/weaken left to drill in Manhattan by type, then I'll probably go back and go through each type again. PTs 7-18 just arrived so my plan is to photocopy sets of ~25 of the 15+ questions and ~30 of the 1-15 questions to help with endurance. Really need to up the LR drilling. Going to start repeating sections too, because why not.

On that note, time for bed. What is my sleep schedule. :cry:

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Post by Alexandros » Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:16 am

ngogirl12 wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
appind wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
appind wrote:in another news, don't mean to be political but this is too interesting to miss

just heard melania trump plagiarized parts of her RNC speech today word for word

effing unbelievable!
it's Hillary Clinton's fault though
we don't know how. it just ... ~is~. ((ominous music plays))
:lol:

it's really unbelievable that something so bad can be condoned by a president candidate. after all this speech was heard live by like 35 million people.
speaks a lot about the campaign.
right? so much about trump and his campaign just ah... defies description.
apparently she tore up what the speechwriters wrote and wrote her own??? "wrote" her "own." (somewhat disappointed it wasn't speechwriters gone rogue, my earlier theory.)
I have no words for this craziness. Just speechless.. Apparently, their refusing to fire the speechwriter and shifting the blame to My Little Pony. What!?
annnd Sean Spicer comes out as a brony.

idk how verified this article is but apparently it was Melania herself? which kinda makes sense because I mean it would be a pretty astounding negligence for a team of professional speech writers. but the way the campaign dealing with it is just .. ouch ouch.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/us/po ... peech.html
But still, even in the case that what she is claiming is in fact true, wouldn't the campaign want to stall her going on to at least know what she was going to say? I have NEVER heard of a political candidate/affiliate whose speech was not carefully prepared, vetted, and fact-checked.

Sheer insanity I tell you.
TRUE wtf. and it was so blatant omg... ???
at a loss for words tbh

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Post by Alexandros » Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:22 am

wait wait melania was just rickrolling us guys
http://margary.tumblr.com/post/14765808 ... g-too-easy

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Post by ngogirl12 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:45 am

Another question for 7Sage people:

I'm doing Pseudo Sufficient questions. So my process for any sufficient question is this:
1) Find the conclusion
2) Find the premise that fills the gap with the conclusion
3) premise acts as the sufficient condition in the answer choice, and the conclusion acts as the necessary condition.

I did a problem that JY did and it's supposed to be approached differently because it's not so airtight. I did the same process and got the right answer. Am I approaching it correctly or do I need to follow a different process?

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Post by etramak » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:16 am

ngogirl12 wrote:Another question for 7Sage people:

I'm doing Pseudo Sufficient questions. So my process for any sufficient question is this:
1) Find the conclusion
2) Find the premise that fills the gap with the conclusion
3) premise acts as the sufficient condition in the answer choice, and the conclusion acts as the necessary condition.

I did a problem that JY did and it's supposed to be approached differently because it's not so airtight. I did the same process and got the right answer. Am I approaching it correctly or do I need to follow a different process?

I've been prepping since January and routinely get -2 or better on LR nowadays. I have no idea what a pseudo sufficient question is. Whatever they are I suppose I've been treating them the same as sufficient assumption or principal questons (basically the same method you lay out) and havent had a problem.

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Post by tofuspeedstar » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:17 am

Alexandros wrote:
tofuspeedstar wrote:also PT 34 game 4.....what the fu**........................:(
rIGHT fuck those doctors and their fucking clinics omg.
it's not even that hard really, conceptually, it's just annoying as all hell.

One thing that helped a bit for me is to treat one clinic as "in" and one as "out" (if you can manage it without getting completely mixed up)
I just watched JY's explanation...I feel so dumb now.

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Post by appind » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:46 am

Alexandros wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
appind wrote:
Alexandros wrote: it's Hillary Clinton's fault though
we don't know how. it just ... ~is~. ((ominous music plays))
:lol:

it's really unbelievable that something so bad can be condoned by a president candidate. after all this speech was heard live by like 35 million people.
speaks a lot about the campaign.
right? so much about trump and his campaign just ah... defies description.
apparently she tore up what the speechwriters wrote and wrote her own??? "wrote" her "own." (somewhat disappointed it wasn't speechwriters gone rogue, my earlier theory.)
I have no words for this craziness. Just speechless.. Apparently, their refusing to fire the speechwriter and shifting the blame to My Little Pony. What!?
annnd Sean Spicer comes out as a brony.

idk how verified this article is but apparently it was Melania herself? which kinda makes sense because I mean it would be a pretty astounding negligence for a team of professional speech writers. but the way the campaign dealing with it is just .. ouch ouch.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/us/po ... peech.html
But still, even in the case that what she is claiming is in fact true, wouldn't the campaign want to stall her going on to at least know what she was going to say? I have NEVER heard of a political candidate/affiliate whose speech was not carefully prepared, vetted, and fact-checked.

Sheer insanity I tell you.
TRUE wtf. and it was so blatant omg... ???
at a loss for words tbh
yeah
only in 'merica

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Post by 34iplaw » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:48 am

etramak wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:Another question for 7Sage people:

I'm doing Pseudo Sufficient questions. So my process for any sufficient question is this:
1) Find the conclusion
2) Find the premise that fills the gap with the conclusion
3) premise acts as the sufficient condition in the answer choice, and the conclusion acts as the necessary condition.

I did a problem that JY did and it's supposed to be approached differently because it's not so airtight. I did the same process and got the right answer. Am I approaching it correctly or do I need to follow a different process?

I've been prepping since January and routinely get -2 or better on LR nowadays. I have no idea what a pseudo sufficient question is. Whatever they are I suppose I've been treating them the same as sufficient assumption or principal questons (basically the same method you lay out) and havent had a problem.
I'm not certain that there is any difference between a psuedo assumption question. I *assume* it is similar to how testmasters differentiates between a Type 1 and a Type 1V - what must be true. They are the same, but a type V may not be true in some ridiculous scenario that isn't going to happen. I imagine that a psuedo assumption *is* the same as an assumption question, but there may be some extreme situation that it wouldn't cover.

i.e. your assumption covers everything except a meteor hitting the earth [granted, this may not be applicable to questions about orbits and gravitational deflection!] versus a question with two mutually exclusive / logical opposites... [All As are Bs...therefore this item is not an A...a sufficient assumption here would be that this item is not a B...that would *always* be true]

I'm not certain that is what it is, but, in either event, someone please clarify and verify.

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Post by JGPGH » Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:06 am

ngogirl12 wrote:
JGPGH wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:For those of you that use 7Sage quick question:

When your going through the LR videos in the curriculum, if you get the same answer as JY and understand the reasoning for all the other answer choices, do you sit through his explanations or just move on?

I ask this because yesterday I was watching some of the videos but found myself tuning out because I understood the process and was getting bored. I don't know if this is the right approach though.
I also had this happen to me and I started to just move on. I felt like I could maximise my time better, plus you can always come back to the video if you find that you didn't quite get something the first time
thanks! even after doing this, do you feel you have a strong foundation of the question type and do well on it after skipping the question? I felt the same way, that I'm wasting precious time that could be utilized elsewhere.
Yeah. I would usually drill that specific question type after going through the lesson and then blind review to make sure that I was looking for and doing the right things. Honestly flash cards helped me too, question type on one side and then how to go about answering it on the other side. Combined with drilling it did wonders for me

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Post by JGPGH » Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:20 am

Big day of drilling today. I thought it would be a lot easier to get back into studying after a month and a half off but boy was I wrong, PT 38 yesterday didnt go too well. Gonna BR then drill at least one more of every type of section and hopefully that'll get me moving in the right direction

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Post by proteinshake » Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:21 am

took the past two days off. gonna hit it hard today with an RC section and some LR/LG drilling.

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Post by EnfieldTennisChamp » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:39 pm

I ran into a person who works in a different branch of my organization whom I had recognized at the June LSAT, and asked him how it went. He told me that he wasn't even interested in applying for law school, he had just taken the LSAT because it was something he had always wanted to do -- a "bucket list" item.

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5 RC passages done today so far...

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Post by Alexandros » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:44 pm

EnfieldTennisChamp wrote:I ran into a person who works in a different branch of my organization whom I had recognized at the June LSAT, and asked him how it went. He told me that he wasn't even interested in applying for law school, he had just taken the LSAT because it was something he had always wanted to do -- a "bucket list" item.

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What.

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Post by Alexandros » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:52 pm

Man, I keep waking up feeling like I have a load of bricks on my head.
-2 on RC this morning, 30 min, one from misreading least for most.

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Y'all, I didn't realize how exhausted I was. Thanks for letting me know I was burnt out. I think my scores are going to improve just from taking this time off.

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EnfieldTennisChamp wrote:I ran into a person who works in a different branch of my organization whom I had recognized at the June LSAT, and asked him how it went. He told me that he wasn't even interested in applying for law school, he had just taken the LSAT because it was something he had always wanted to do -- a "bucket list" item.

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SweetTort wrote:Y'all, I didn't realize how exhausted I was. Thanks for letting me know I was burnt out. I think my scores are going to improve just from taking this time off.
:) enjoy your free time. Do some stuff like binge watch a show, go out with you SO or friends, spend time with family, etc

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TheMikey wrote:
SweetTort wrote:Y'all, I didn't realize how exhausted I was. Thanks for letting me know I was burnt out. I think my scores are going to improve just from taking this time off.
:) enjoy your free time. Do some stuff like binge watch a show, go out with you SO or friends, spend time with family, etc
Watch Black Mirror if you haven't yet! IDK how late I am to that party because I just heard about it this past weekend but it was awesome.

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Hippeas 'far out fajitas' are pretty tasty. I know that chip bags are usually deceiving, but this bag had so few crisps that I could literally count all ten of them in just a quick glance :|

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TheMikey wrote:
SweetTort wrote:Y'all, I didn't realize how exhausted I was. Thanks for letting me know I was burnt out. I think my scores are going to improve just from taking this time off.
:) enjoy your free time. Do some stuff like binge watch a show, go out with you SO or friends, spend time with family, etc
Unfortunately my SO is overseas right now.
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Post by 20170322 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:21 pm

EnfieldTennisChamp wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
SweetTort wrote:Y'all, I didn't realize how exhausted I was. Thanks for letting me know I was burnt out. I think my scores are going to improve just from taking this time off.
:) enjoy your free time. Do some stuff like binge watch a show, go out with you SO or friends, spend time with family, etc
Watch Black Mirror if you haven't yet! IDK how late I am to that party because I just heard about it this past weekend but it was awesome.
Black Mirror is basically a newer, better Twilight Zone. Every episode fucks with my head so hard.

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Post by proteinshake » Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:38 pm

so I thought I was just terrible at Most Strongly Supported Questions but I see that they tend to be on the higher end of the difficulty spectrum when I miss them. so I guess I just suck at hard MSS questions. going to print out the hard Qs from the Cambridge pack and drill those.

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SweetTort wrote:
EnfieldTennisChamp wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
SweetTort wrote:Y'all, I didn't realize how exhausted I was. Thanks for letting me know I was burnt out. I think my scores are going to improve just from taking this time off.
:) enjoy your free time. Do some stuff like binge watch a show, go out with you SO or friends, spend time with family, etc
Watch Black Mirror if you haven't yet! IDK how late I am to that party because I just heard about it this past weekend but it was awesome.
Black Mirror is basically a newer, better Twilight Zone. Every episode fucks with my head so hard.
I don't know why...I didn't feel like I was really into it, but, at the same time, I couldn't get away from it. I don't think that I'm a fan of anthology series is probably the main reason. Also, I guess some of it, at times, is like trying too hard to be edgy with the sharpness of a cudgel. Maybe, I'm more a fan of campy sci-fi. Meh.

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Post by Mikey » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:25 pm

Did 2 rc passages during my lunch break. I'm pretty sure I did terrible on them but we will see after I BR them...

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