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Post by Alexandros » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:33 pm

SweetTort wrote:Taking the next 3 days off. Time for wine.
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Post by Mikey » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:37 pm

ngogirl12 wrote:For those of you that use 7Sage quick question:

When your going through the LR videos in the curriculum, if you get the same answer as JY and understand the reasoning for all the other answer choices, do you sit through his explanations or just move on?

I ask this because yesterday I was watching some of the videos but found myself tuning out because I understood the process and was getting bored. I don't know if this is the right approach though.
I typically would watch his explanation for the stimulus only if I had gotten the same answer as him. It helped me compare my reasoning to his, and if I knew why each A/C was wrong then I would just skip that.

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Post by Mikey » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:01 pm

Just did the RC passage that talks about Freud, fairy tales and therapy for children. I found it to be really interesting to be honest, but that might just be because I'm a psych major.. Went 5/5 on it

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Post by Barack O'Drama » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:06 pm

ngogirl12 wrote:
Barack O'Drama wrote:So a couple of days ago I mentioned I was going to buy some pencils and review them. I posted a more lengthy review w/ picture here: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... l#p9463317

Here are some quick thoughts on what I found. I basically compared the Ticon Blacks, Palomino Blackwing 602, and Staedtler Norica.

The Staedtler Norica was my favorite for a few reasons. The main one was that the Ticon seemed to scratch the paper and the Norica was smooth and glided on the paper. It made it easier to write neat, easier to bubble, and was more comfortable. I'm ambidextrous and switch the hand I write with sometimes and it seemed ok for both. Also, they seemed better for bubbling in answers. I think the lead is a bit more soft.

The Palomino Blackwing was similar to the Staedtler, but almost too smooth. Better for drawing; not for test taking. Also, when I tried with my left hand, it smudged... Incidentally, some have said this is ok for the test despite the fact it may not be a true #2, still I wouldn't risk it. Lastly, this thing does not erase well. Not recommended.

The Ticon Blacks are really good, too. If you're not as neurotic as me, I think they will do just fine. They erase a bit easier than the Noricas, but being that the lead is a bit more hard, the only downside is they don't seem as smooth. When writing fast the hard lead makes writing neat a bit more challenging.

I ended up buying 72 Noricas for like $20 at Staples. So they aren't expensive. Now I have enough forever! The Palomino Blackwings were like $17 for a dozen. And the Ticon Blacks are about $5 for 2 dozen. I also got the Palomino Blackwing sharpener which is great for giving your pencil a longer tip.

ETA: I'm going to PT this weekend with the 180 Watch and I'll post a full review for that somewhere. (Couple people messaged me to ask how it is so far)
Thanks for this! On 7Sage they highly recommend the Norica's as well. I bought the black Ticonderoga's awhile back, but when they become small I might invest in the Norica's. Did the Norica's smudge? For me my two issues are the darker lead and the smudging. I love pencils that have a darker lead.

My issue with the Black Ticonderoga's is the lead is not dark enough, would you say the Staedler's lead is darker?
Yeah, I read that JY likes the Staedtlers and then got Nicole Hopkins and a bunch of other people using them.

I actually think they are perfect for what your preferences are. When I write, I'm generally a lefty, so not smudging is important to me. That is why I didn't like the Palomino Blackwings. The Norica didn't smudge at all for me. The lead is noticeably more deeper and darker than the Ticons.

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Post by Barack O'Drama » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:07 pm

SweetTort wrote:Getting blitzed and watching the RNC. What is life.

Life is good! :lol:
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Post by Barack O'Drama » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:12 pm

ngogirl12 wrote:For those of you that use 7Sage quick question:

When your going through the LR videos in the curriculum, if you get the same answer as JY and understand the reasoning for all the other answer choices, do you sit through his explanations or just move on?

I ask this because yesterday I was watching some of the videos but found myself tuning out because I understood the process and was getting bored. I don't know if this is the right approach though.
When I'm going through the core curriculum, even when I understand and get the same answer as JY, I usually just sit through the explanations. If only because every once and a while he will explain something a certain way that helps me understand why one of the A/Cs was a "trap answer."

My reasoning is just because I got it right, and avoided the trap answer, it is good to fully understand what makes it wrong so I don't fall for a similarly- worded question in the future...If that makes sense.
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Post by Replitz » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:21 pm

ngogirl12 wrote:For those of you that use 7Sage quick question:

When your going through the LR videos in the curriculum, if you get the same answer as JY and understand the reasoning for all the other answer choices, do you sit through his explanations or just move on?

I ask this because yesterday I was watching some of the videos but found myself tuning out because I understood the process and was getting bored. I don't know if this is the right approach though.
If I truly understand all the reasoning, and I can do it under time, I skip it. But I've made a point to watch every video at least once, because sometimes he has a more efficient method or a better inference.

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Post by ngogirl12 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:22 pm

TheMikey wrote: I typically would watch his explanation for the stimulus only if I had gotten the same answer as him. It helped me compare my reasoning to his, and if I knew why each A/C was wrong then I would just skip that.
Oh great. Thanks. I was literally bored out of my mind lol.

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Post by Alexandros » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:23 pm

-3 on games from 68 again jfc. :?
I'm gonna have to try 68.4 again with no timer. Maybe 7sage it. I should be way past this stage but frick I can't recall the last time I've struggled so much with a single game.

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Post by Rupert Pupkin » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:23 pm

Barack O'Drama wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:For those of you that use 7Sage quick question:

When your going through the LR videos in the curriculum, if you get the same answer as JY and understand the reasoning for all the other answer choices, do you sit through his explanations or just move on?

I ask this because yesterday I was watching some of the videos but found myself tuning out because I understood the process and was getting bored. I don't know if this is the right approach though.
When I'm going through the core curriculum, even when I understand and get the same answer as JY, I usually just sit through the explanations. If only because every once and a while he will explain something a certain way that helps me understand why one of the A/Cs was a "trap answer."

My reasoning is just because I got it right, and avoided the trap answer, it is good to fully understand what makes it wrong so I don't fall for a similarly- worded question in the future...If that makes sense.
Yeah, I would just make sure that when you get a question correct because you chose it with 100% confidence using the right reasoning. Even when I can use cross-elimination to get the right answer, but could not spot the correct answer with confidence, I watch and read the explanations.

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Post by Rupert Pupkin » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:24 pm

jagerbom79 wrote:
Barack O'Drama wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:For those of you that use 7Sage quick question:

When your going through the LR videos in the curriculum, if you get the same answer as JY and understand the reasoning for all the other answer choices, do you sit through his explanations or just move on?

I ask this because yesterday I was watching some of the videos but found myself tuning out because I understood the process and was getting bored. I don't know if this is the right approach though.
When I'm going through the core curriculum, even when I understand and get the same answer as JY, I usually just sit through the explanations. If only because every once and a while he will explain something a certain way that helps me understand why one of the A/Cs was a "trap answer."

My reasoning is just because I got it right, and avoided the trap answer, it is good to fully understand what makes it wrong so I don't fall for a similarly- worded question in the future...If that makes sense.
Yeah, I would just make sure that when you get a question correct its because you chose it with 100% confidence using the right reasoning. Even when I can use cross-elimination to get the right answer, but could not spot the correct answer with confidence, I watch and read the explanations.

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Post by Replitz » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:24 pm

SweetTort wrote:Getting blitzed and watching the RNC. What is life.
This was me yesterday. And probably tonight. A glass of scotch and an evening of disbelief/laughs.

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Post by YupSports » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:29 pm

And now, for your entertainment, I present: my PT 47 score!

LR1: -9 (Ran out of time with 5 left)
RC: -6 (Ran out of time on last 3)
LR2: -7 (Filled in last one as time ran out)
LG: -0 (Finished before the proctor even called 5:00)

Score: 159. :mrgreen:

So... uh... a weird test for sure.

I've had a splitting headache all day, and I would like to think that stress from work, sleep deprivation, and hitting the gym too hard caught up with me.

Blind review should be an absolute blast.

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Post by ngogirl12 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:34 pm

TheMikey wrote:Just did the RC passage that talks about Freud, fairy tales and therapy for children. I found it to be really interesting to be honest, but that might just be because I'm a psych major.. Went 5/5 on it
I did polisci and IR in undergrad and I loved that passage :D

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Post by ngogirl12 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:38 pm

YupSports wrote:And now, for your entertainment, I present: my PT 47 score!

LR1: -9 (Ran out of time with 5 left)
RC: -6 (Ran out of time on last 3)
LR2: -7 (Filled in last one as time ran out)
LG: -0 (Finished before the proctor even called 5:00)

Score: 159. :mrgreen:

So... uh... a weird test for sure.

I've had a splitting headache all day, and I would like to think that stress from work, sleep deprivation, and hitting the gym too hard caught up with me.

Blind review should be an absolute blast.
I know how you feel, after making progress in RC I had a deplorable time with it today. I blame it on fatigue, being hungry (even though I had breakfast), and not doing my morning workout. :/

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Post by Alexandros » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:39 pm

YupSports wrote:And now, for your entertainment, I present: my PT 47 score!

LR1: -9 (Ran out of time with 5 left)
RC: -6 (Ran out of time on last 3)
LR2: -7 (Filled in last one as time ran out)
LG: -0 (Finished before the proctor even called 5:00)

Score: 159. :mrgreen:

So... uh... a weird test for sure.

I've had a splitting headache all day, and I would like to think that stress from work, sleep deprivation, and hitting the gym too hard caught up with me.

Blind review should be an absolute blast.
Great job killing LG!
Major props for suffering through a whole PT with a splitting headache. Hope you can get some rest. :)

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Post by legallyadog » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:40 pm

Replitz wrote:
SweetTort wrote:Getting blitzed and watching the RNC. What is life.
This was me yesterday. And probably tonight. A glass of scotch and an evening of disbelief/laughs.
The one thing I learned by majoring in poli sci is hard liquor is always needed.

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Post by ngogirl12 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:41 pm

Replitz wrote:
SweetTort wrote:Getting blitzed and watching the RNC. What is life.
This was me yesterday. And probably tonight. A glass of scotch and an evening of disbelief/laughs.
Yeah. I read the Melania v. Michelle's speech plagiarism last night, and saw the RNC snapchat story (I don't subscribe to them, it was one of the stories featured). It was interesting.

Also just read re:speech plagiarism, the Trump campaign is not firing the speechwriter and claiming that they got the ideas from My Little Pony.

Wow just wow. I have no words.
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Post by ngogirl12 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:45 pm

Barack O'Drama wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:
Barack O'Drama wrote:So a couple of days ago I mentioned I was going to buy some pencils and review them. I posted a more lengthy review w/ picture here: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... l#p9463317

Here are some quick thoughts on what I found. I basically compared the Ticon Blacks, Palomino Blackwing 602, and Staedtler Norica.

The Staedtler Norica was my favorite for a few reasons. The main one was that the Ticon seemed to scratch the paper and the Norica was smooth and glided on the paper. It made it easier to write neat, easier to bubble, and was more comfortable. I'm ambidextrous and switch the hand I write with sometimes and it seemed ok for both. Also, they seemed better for bubbling in answers. I think the lead is a bit more soft.

The Palomino Blackwing was similar to the Staedtler, but almost too smooth. Better for drawing; not for test taking. Also, when I tried with my left hand, it smudged... Incidentally, some have said this is ok for the test despite the fact it may not be a true #2, still I wouldn't risk it. Lastly, this thing does not erase well. Not recommended.

The Ticon Blacks are really good, too. If you're not as neurotic as me, I think they will do just fine. They erase a bit easier than the Noricas, but being that the lead is a bit more hard, the only downside is they don't seem as smooth. When writing fast the hard lead makes writing neat a bit more challenging.

I ended up buying 72 Noricas for like $20 at Staples. So they aren't expensive. Now I have enough forever! The Palomino Blackwings were like $17 for a dozen. And the Ticon Blacks are about $5 for 2 dozen. I also got the Palomino Blackwing sharpener which is great for giving your pencil a longer tip.

ETA: I'm going to PT this weekend with the 180 Watch and I'll post a full review for that somewhere. (Couple people messaged me to ask how it is so far)
Thanks for this! On 7Sage they highly recommend the Norica's as well. I bought the black Ticonderoga's awhile back, but when they become small I might invest in the Norica's. Did the Norica's smudge? For me my two issues are the darker lead and the smudging. I love pencils that have a darker lead.

My issue with the Black Ticonderoga's is the lead is not dark enough, would you say the Staedler's lead is darker?
Yeah, I read that JY likes the Staedtlers and then got Nicole Hopkins and a bunch of other people using them.

I actually think they are perfect for what your preferences are. When I write, I'm generally a lefty, so not smudging is important to me. That is why I didn't like the Palomino Blackwings. The Norica didn't smudge at all for me. The lead is noticeably more deeper and darker than the Ticons.

:)
Oh awesome! Truth be known, I absolutely HATE the Ticons, I only bought them because everyone recommended them.

You've sold me, I'm going with the Staedtlers.

BTW I think it's pretty awesome that your ambidextrous. It must be pretty convenient when your right or left elbow cramps up to switch hands. I wish I had that talent!

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Post by ngogirl12 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:50 pm

jagerbom79 wrote:
Barack O'Drama wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:For those of you that use 7Sage quick question:

When your going through the LR videos in the curriculum, if you get the same answer as JY and understand the reasoning for all the other answer choices, do you sit through his explanations or just move on?

I ask this because yesterday I was watching some of the videos but found myself tuning out because I understood the process and was getting bored. I don't know if this is the right approach though.
When I'm going through the core curriculum, even when I understand and get the same answer as JY, I usually just sit through the explanations. If only because every once and a while he will explain something a certain way that helps me understand why one of the A/Cs was a "trap answer."

My reasoning is just because I got it right, and avoided the trap answer, it is good to fully understand what makes it wrong so I don't fall for a similarly- worded question in the future...If that makes sense.
Yeah, I would just make sure that when you get a question correct because you chose it with 100% confidence using the right reasoning. Even when I can use cross-elimination to get the right answer, but could not spot the correct answer with confidence, I watch and read the explanations.
Yeah, I do the same. I'm talking about the situation where you feel confidant that you got the answer right, you do, and you know why all the wrong answers are wrong. I usually sit through the explanations to see if my reasoning is the same as JY's, but I find myself not listening and bored out of my mind (in this situation) lol.

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Post by ngogirl12 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:53 pm

Replitz wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:For those of you that use 7Sage quick question:

When your going through the LR videos in the curriculum, if you get the same answer as JY and understand the reasoning for all the other answer choices, do you sit through his explanations or just move on?

I ask this because yesterday I was watching some of the videos but found myself tuning out because I understood the process and was getting bored. I don't know if this is the right approach though.
If I truly understand all the reasoning, and I can do it under time, I skip it. But I've made a point to watch every video at least once, because sometimes he has a more efficient method or a better inference.
Thanks for this. You just convinced me not to skip questions I think I understand the reasoning to, and force myself to listen because hey, JY may give me some insight I didn't think of!

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Post by Rupert Pupkin » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:50 pm

I often find myself taking a little too long on LG and I think it is because I am not making enough initial inferences and so when I get to some problems I just have to try the answer choices. Anybody have any recommendations?

Thanks

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Post by ngogirl12 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:05 pm

jagerbom79 wrote:I often find myself taking a little too long on LG and I think it is because I am not making enough initial inferences and so when I get to some problems I just have to try the answer choices. Anybody have any recommendations?

Thanks
Foolproof and drill. It is not always about making inferences but some games are also rule driven. Drilling helps with familiarity with the material and getting the games in under a certain time limit.

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