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pisssss I hate reviewing games and seeing how I messed up ONE RULE which shafted the whole game. that -7 could've been -1.
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Yup...I have a tendency to misinterpret weirdly worded rules wrong. All downhill from there. hahasurf wrote:pisssss I hate reviewing games and seeing how I messed up ONE RULE which shafted the whole game. that -7 could've been -1.
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yikes, your such a good person :pmist4bison wrote:I spent the last 5 hours volunteering/working pro bono at landlord tenant court. Broke up a fight between a landlord and a tenant. Don't go into civil service, guys.
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18/20 on MP
17/20 on Describe
Not too bad, out of the 5 wrong, 3 were which I chose between 2 tempting answer choices.
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Not too bad, out of the 5 wrong, 3 were which I chose between 2 tempting answer choices.
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Please explain a bit more. What makes it easy for you? Maybe it would help a few people like me.I feel like the odd one out here because grouping games came pretty naturally to me whereas ordering took a lot more conscious effort to improve.
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I uploaded a tar, is it being screened?
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lawjag2015 wrote:I uploaded a tar, is it being screened?
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Grouping games are now easier for me than ordering, too, but I'm not sure the why will help you. Ordering games are...well...linear. If your brain is most comfortable with linear thinking, you're gonna like ordering games and they'll make the most sense to you. But the real key is studying. Though easy linear games were easiest at first, after learning the ropes the most complex grouping games came more naturally to me and I had to work harder to get better at complex ordering games.lawjag2015 wrote:Please explain a bit more. What makes it easy for you? Maybe it would help a few people like me.I feel like the odd one out here because grouping games came pretty naturally to me whereas ordering took a lot more conscious effort to improve.
That said, it's doable. You just have to practice. I'd start by progressing through both types of games by difficulty if possible. I really needed a solid foundation in understanding grouping and translating the rules to become decent at grouping, and that took about three weeks to a month. But now I like them better.
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Well, linear/ordering is easy for me because of the constraints that it brings. Given all the rules, and the inherent constraints of ordering, items can go only in certain places. Easy!havemercylorde wrote:Grouping games are now easier for me than ordering, too, but I'm not sure the why will help you. Ordering games are...well...linear. If your brain is most comfortable with linear thinking, you're gonna like ordering games and they'll make the most sense to you. But the real key is studying. Though easy linear games were easiest at first, after learning the ropes the most complex grouping games came more naturally to me and I had to work harder to get better at complex ordering games.lawjag2015 wrote:Please explain a bit more. What makes it easy for you? Maybe it would help a few people like me.I feel like the odd one out here because grouping games came pretty naturally to me whereas ordering took a lot more conscious effort to improve.
That said, it's doable. You just have to practice. I'd start by progressing through both types of games by difficulty if possible. I really needed a solid foundation in understanding grouping and translating the rules to become decent at grouping, and that took about three weeks to a month. But now I like them better.
How do you "think" about grouping that makes it easy?
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For the same reason. I feel like most highly-complex grouping games have more rules if you tease out the inferences properly, meaning things go faster. In ordering games it's more difficult for me to make it to those inferences. My brain is weird though.lawjag2015 wrote:Well, linear/ordering is easy for me because of the constraints that it brings. Given all the rules, and the inherent constraints of ordering, items can go only in certain places. Easy!havemercylorde wrote:Grouping games are now easier for me than ordering, too, but I'm not sure the why will help you. Ordering games are...well...linear. If your brain is most comfortable with linear thinking, you're gonna like ordering games and they'll make the most sense to you. But the real key is studying. Though easy linear games were easiest at first, after learning the ropes the most complex grouping games came more naturally to me and I had to work harder to get better at complex ordering games.lawjag2015 wrote:Please explain a bit more. What makes it easy for you? Maybe it would help a few people like me.I feel like the odd one out here because grouping games came pretty naturally to me whereas ordering took a lot more conscious effort to improve.
That said, it's doable. You just have to practice. I'd start by progressing through both types of games by difficulty if possible. I really needed a solid foundation in understanding grouping and translating the rules to become decent at grouping, and that took about three weeks to a month. But now I like them better.
How do you "think" about grouping that makes it easy?
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the same way you described linear/odering.... Its just natural to you, you get it.... so you see the constraints/inferences easily... keep working towards grouping and other types and the same will be able to be said about those... its not going to be a real thought process thats explainable that you can adopt and boom understand grouping (otherwise 180 for everyone)lawjag2015 wrote:Well, linear/ordering is easy for me because of the constraints that it brings. Given all the rules, and the inherent constraints of ordering, items can go only in certain places. Easy!havemercylorde wrote:
Grouping games are now easier for me than ordering, too, but I'm not sure the why will help you. Ordering games are...well...linear. If your brain is most comfortable with linear thinking, you're gonna like ordering games and they'll make the most sense to you. But the real key is studying. Though easy linear games were easiest at first, after learning the ropes the most complex grouping games came more naturally to me and I had to work harder to get better at complex ordering games.
That said, it's doable. You just have to practice. I'd start by progressing through both types of games by difficulty if possible. I really needed a solid foundation in understanding grouping and translating the rules to become decent at grouping, and that took about three weeks to a month. But now I like them better.
How do you "think" about grouping that makes it easy?
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Exactly. Once the doors opened up on grouping I realized I was doing way more poorly (slowly) in ordering. So I just had to work harder to bring my timing on complex ordering up to snuff.Jgoods wrote:the same way you described linear/odering.... Its just natural to you, you get it.... so you see the constraints/inferences easily... keep working towards grouping and other types and the same will be able to be said about those... its not going to be a real thought process thats explainable that you can adopt and boom understand grouping (otherwise 180 for everyone)lawjag2015 wrote:Well, linear/ordering is easy for me because of the constraints that it brings. Given all the rules, and the inherent constraints of ordering, items can go only in certain places. Easy!havemercylorde wrote:
Grouping games are now easier for me than ordering, too, but I'm not sure the why will help you. Ordering games are...well...linear. If your brain is most comfortable with linear thinking, you're gonna like ordering games and they'll make the most sense to you. But the real key is studying. Though easy linear games were easiest at first, after learning the ropes the most complex grouping games came more naturally to me and I had to work harder to get better at complex ordering games.
That said, it's doable. You just have to practice. I'd start by progressing through both types of games by difficulty if possible. I really needed a solid foundation in understanding grouping and translating the rules to become decent at grouping, and that took about three weeks to a month. But now I like them better.
How do you "think" about grouping that makes it easy?
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Also checking in in case I need to retake.
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welcomehavemercylorde wrote:Also checking in in case I need to retake.
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Dirigo wrote:Only 50 possible full days of studying left for us.





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seriously... I already haven't been hanging out much and they're all like "dude its like 2 months away still"Dirigo wrote:I'm telling everyone IRL to leave me alone.nlee10 wrote:Dirigo wrote:Only 50 possible full days of studying left for us.![]()
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Like you try taking this shit then get back to me lol
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I had an instance last week while eating dinner with a friend. After telling him that I'm feeling pretty stressed out 8 weeks out, he's like "What's so important and hard about one test?"Jgoods wrote:seriously... I already haven't been hanging out much and they're all like "dude its like 2 months away still"Dirigo wrote: I'm telling everyone IRL to leave me alone.
Like you try taking this shit then get back to me lol




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life and everything in that ordernlee10 wrote:I had an instance last week while eating dinner with a friend. After telling him that I'm feeling pretty stressed out 8 weeks out, he's like "What's so important and hard about one test?"Jgoods wrote:seriously... I already haven't been hanging out much and they're all like "dude its like 2 months away still"Dirigo wrote: I'm telling everyone IRL to leave me alone.
Like you try taking this shit then get back to me lol
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