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santoki wrote:hi there, im looking to talk some LSAT. can anyone point me in the right direction? :oops:
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Post by dasani13 » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:11 pm

BillPackets wrote:
GreenTee wrote:
smccgrey wrote:I LOVE TLS SO MUCH OH MY GOD.

Thank you Tee. Do it for science.
:lol: And this is what I plan to yell out upon climax.
this is 180 folks
:D Looking forward to September Waiter's thread after a disappointing one in June!

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dasani13 wrote:
BillPackets wrote:
GreenTee wrote:
smccgrey wrote:I LOVE TLS SO MUCH OH MY GOD.

Thank you Tee. Do it for science.
:lol: And this is what I plan to yell out upon climax.
this is 180 folks
:D Looking forward to September Waiter's thread after a disappointing one in June!
We r prepping already

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Post by sashafierce » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:21 pm

GreenTee wrote:
smccgrey wrote:I LOVE TLS SO MUCH OH MY GOD.

Thank you Tee. Do it for science.
:lol: And this is what I plan to yell out upon climax.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

So I just completed Superprep C

PT35 ExpRC: -7
LR1: -6
LR2: -7 (guessed on 2 questions due to time)
RC: -5
LG: -12 :(
Raw:71
Scaled: 160

I get that I have alot more drilling to do but I am happy with my LR and RC scores of lately. I am getting faster, I am able to attempt alot more questions on LR and RC and my question strategies are getting better. However my LG score is discouraging.

Right now I am drilling RC/LR and LG everyday with some timed sections and PTs in between. I still have to drill PF,PR, Resolve, MSS, Disagreement and Flaw as well as Level 3-4 Assumption Family questions. Plus PT 1-20 LG Cambridge packet and Science and Humanities PT1-38 Cambridge.

Does anyone have any idea how I can go about structuring my last few weeks??

Also I started a RC error tracking spreadsheet that I think is helping me keep track of my RC mistakes. I subdivided the RC passages by Reasoning Structure (for no real reason) and then I keep track of the questions I got wrong, why I got them wrong and what I learnt from that questions. It is helping me with RC, I did a similar spreadsheet for Flaws and now I have 90%+ accuracy in Flaw question types.

Do you guys think I should do a similar tracking spreadsheet for LR in general. Keeping track of the questions that I got wrong and why I got them wrong might help me root out some bad habits. At present all that I do for LR is write out explanations for the ones that I get wrong but I am not seeing any real pattern i.e. Skipping Steps, Misreading sentences etc. Or maybe i should just drill drill drill until a bulb in my head comes on :D :D :D

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by BillPackets » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:22 pm

Superstaranonymous wrote:Trainer and Manhattan LR coming in Friday. Looking to finish them both these next two weeks. Which on one first?

Edit: Which one first?
they're both really good for LR. I like the Trainer a little more, esp with how mike lays out the three most common flaws. thinking about the flaws as he describes them is incredibly helpful, imo. MLSAT is also really helpful.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by BillPackets » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:26 pm

sashafierce wrote:
GreenTee wrote:
smccgrey wrote:I LOVE TLS SO MUCH OH MY GOD.

Thank you Tee. Do it for science.
:lol: And this is what I plan to yell out upon climax.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

So I just completed Superprep C

PT35 ExpRC: -7
LR1: -6
LR2: -7 (guessed on 2 questions due to time)
RC: -5
LG: -12 :(
Raw:71
Scaled: 160

I get that I have alot more drilling to do but I am happy with my LR and RC scores of lately. I am getting faster, I am able to attempt alot more questions on LR and RC and my question strategies are getting better. However my LG score is discouraging.

Right now I am drilling RC/LR and LG everyday with some timed sections and PTs in between. I still have to drill PF,PR, Resolve, MSS, Disagreement and Flaw as well as Level 3-4 Assumption Family questions. Plus PT 1-20 LG Cambridge packet and Science and Humanities PT1-38 Cambridge.

Does anyone have any idea how I can go about structuring my last few weeks??

Also I started a RC error tracking spreadsheet that I think is helping me keep track of my RC mistakes. I subdivided the RC passages by Reasoning Structure (for no real reason) and then I keep track of the questions I got wrong, why I got them wrong and what I learnt from that questions. It is helping me with RC, I did a similar spreadsheet for Flaws and now I have 90%+ accuracy in Flaw question types.

Do you guys think I should do a similar tracking spreadsheet for LR in general. Keeping track of the questions that I got wrong and why I got them wrong might help me root out some bad habits. At present all that I do for LR is write out explanations for the ones that I get wrong but I am not seeing any real pattern i.e. Skipping Steps, Misreading sentences etc. Or maybe i should just drill drill drill until a bulb in my head comes on :D :D :D
you should drill more LG. if you got that down to -0/-1, your score would improve astronomically.

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Post by joeisreallycool » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:33 pm

Anyone else freaking out that they don't have enough time to get ready for September? I want to take more PTs but a common theme with me is that I get only the hard questions wrong, and to fix this I plan on drilling the Most Difficult packets.

In your guy's opinion, drill>PT, PT<drill, balance 3 PT's a week with review and drill for the rest of the time?

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Post by sashafierce » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:35 pm

BillPackets wrote:
you should drill more LG. if you got that down to -0/-1, your score would improve astronomically.
Do you recommend drilling using sections or by question type? FYI Timing plus inefficient question strategies is my issue.

Also I ordered LR by type for PT 40-60 by mistake. I have already done all of the PTs in the 50s and most of those from the 40s. Do you recommend that I use this book to drill as well?

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Post by sashafierce » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:39 pm

smccgrey wrote:
BillPackets wrote: you should drill more LG. if you got that down to -0/-1, your score would improve astronomically.
I also highly highly recommend plugging your LR scores into LSAT QA to figure out your weaknesses (just google LSAT QA if you don't know what it is)

Targeted drilling >>>> aimless drilling
Thanks I use 7sage. So far Resolve, MSS, MBT, PF, PR and NA are my weakest areas.

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Post by BillPackets » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:40 pm

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BillPackets wrote:
you should drill more LG. if you got that down to -0/-1, your score would improve astronomically.
Do you recommend drilling using sections or by question type? FYI Timing plus inefficient question strategies is my issue.

Also I ordered LR by type for PT 40-60 by mistake. I have already done all of the PTs in the 50s and most of those from the 40s. Do you recommend that I use this book to drill as well?
considering that you're at -12, i would say by q type. its not a huge deal to break up games into a billion diff categories as some do, but you should probably at least drill by the major categories (in/out, grouping, ordering, distribution). there are nuances within each type, and the games are so standardized, you'll start noticing the patterns across game types, make inferences faster, set games up faster, etc etc etc

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BillPackets wrote:hey grey what's the sig of your tar?
You don't watch Sherlock??

It's Irene Adler. I like her.
sry no sherlock. my bride to be watches it occasionally. in all honesty im addicted to curb. like, addicted. its all i watch

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Post by Toby Ziegler » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:50 pm

PT 10 Game 3 is super weird. I didn't know how to diagram it, so I didn't and went -0. On 7Sage Mike kinda tries to make a diagram, but it seems that he does that more to explain the rules visually to his viewers. Anyone similar with that game? It's the one about words and sentences.

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Post by Learn_Live_Hope » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:57 pm

smccgrey wrote:
Toby Ziegler wrote:PT 10 Game 3 is super weird. I didn't know how to diagram it, so I didn't and went -0. On 7Sage Mike kinda tries to make a diagram, but it seems that he does that more to explain the rules visually to his viewers. Anyone similar with that game? It's the one about words and sentences.
There are a lot of games for which diagramming is unnecessary IMO. I think a lot of people diagram first and think about the rules closely after - personally I think you should answer the first question (the which-one-of-these-is-possible question) before diagramming. Helps you understand the setup better by forcing you to pay close attention to the rules.
Totally agree!!!!!
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Post by ilikebaseball » Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:13 pm

Got all my LOR's out! One from a Judge/ former professor, and one from a former UT grad/former Professor.. Applications all ready to go, except for the fucking most important thing that is lol

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ilikebaseball wrote:Got all my LOR's out! One from a Judge/ former professor, and one from a former UT grad/former Professor.. Applications all ready to go, except for the fucking most important thing that is lol
awe-sum. just waitin on the lsat

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Post by dasani13 » Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:07 pm

smccgrey wrote:
Toby Ziegler wrote:PT 10 Game 3 is super weird. I didn't know how to diagram it, so I didn't and went -0. On 7Sage Mike kinda tries to make a diagram, but it seems that he does that more to explain the rules visually to his viewers. Anyone similar with that game? It's the one about words and sentences.
There are a lot of games for which diagramming is unnecessary IMO. I think a lot of people diagram first and think about the rules closely after - personally I think you should answer the first question (the which-one-of-these-is-possible question) before diagramming. Helps you understand the setup better by forcing you to pay close attention to the rules.
I agree- I was just talking about this yesterday. I think 7Sage overrepresents hypos/diagramming in his videos a bit.

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