real The Official December 2016 Waiters Group - Patience is a Virtue Forum

[gwillygecko]

Ok, I just went through a bunch of games on 7sage, because despite what

thinks, my soul has already been sucked out of me. Trying to figure out if there's any precident for game 4. Turns out, nope, there's not. Some of these games had elements that were almost kind of similar, but nothing quite gets close:

PT 2 game 3
PT 9 game 3
PT 10 game 3
PT 11 game 4
PT 12 game 4
PT 16 game 4
PT 68 game 4
PT 72 game 4
PT 77 game 3

pt11 game 4 is really really close imo

BRB gonna make like 100 copies of all these games for June.

be sure to do 79 game 4, 80 game 3, and 80 game 4. actually just do all the 2016 games =)

[dj9i27]

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[VMars]

Ok, I just went through a bunch of games on 7sage, because despite what

thinks, my soul has already been sucked out of me. Trying to figure out if there's any precident for game 4. Turns out, nope, there's not. Some of these games had elements that were almost kind of similar, but nothing quite gets close:

PT 2 game 3
PT 9 game 3
PT 10 game 3
PT 11 game 4
PT 12 game 4
PT 16 game 4
PT 68 game 4
PT 72 game 4
PT 77 game 3

pt11 game 4 is really really close imo

BRB gonna make like 100 copies of all these games for June.

be sure to do 79 game 4, 80 game 3, and 80 game 4. actually just do all the 2016 games =)

79 was a blindside to me in September, last time I did PT72 I went -0 but was shooting in the dark mostly I want to be rid of that for june; I am very curious to see PT80 game 4 but, mostly 3. What style of game was game 3? Grouping, advanced linear, sequencing, weird?

Pretty much my plan is to act like I know nothing in January when restarting studying.

Game 3 was [edited]

[dj9i27]

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[Greenteachurro]

Ok, I just went through a bunch of games on 7sage, because despite what

thinks, my soul has already been sucked out of me. Trying to figure out if there's any precident for game 4. Turns out, nope, there's not. Some of these games had elements that were almost kind of similar, but nothing quite gets close:

PT 2 game 3
PT 9 game 3
PT 10 game 3
PT 11 game 4
PT 12 game 4
PT 16 game 4
PT 68 game 4
PT 72 game 4
PT 77 game 3

pt11 game 4 is really really close imo

BRB gonna make like 100 copies of all these games for June.

be sure to do 79 game 4, 80 game 3, and 80 game 4. actually just do all the 2016 games =)

79 was a blindside to me in September, last time I did PT72 I went -0 but was shooting in the dark mostly I want to be rid of that for june; I am very curious to see PT80 game 4 but, mostly 3. What style of game was game 3? Grouping, advanced linear, sequencing, weird?

Pretty much my plan is to act like I know nothing in January when restarting studying.

yeah this was was group with sub categories and game 4 was algebra

[Pozzo]

Reevaluating career goals now:

https://www.thrillist.com/eat/nation/in ... ks-lawyers

[dontsaywhatyoumean]

Engineers pros:

Salary
4 year degree only
Less debt
Easier to get into
Better job market

I have my doubts some days

[dj9i27]

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[Greenteachurro]

Reevaluating career goals now:

https://www.thrillist.com/eat/nation/in ... ks-lawyers

Those are actually some solid points. I'm going to reconsider my choices as well. I also wonder how much of that number is brought down by the lawyers who come from TTT schools though.

[Greenteachurro]

Engineers pros:

Salary
4 year degree only
Less debt
Easier to get into
Better job market

I have my doubts some days

Some BigLaw partners make like 1.5 million.... Just don't dread the hours.

Lol the guy at mid-sized firm I work at makes well over 2 million a year and probably only works like 50-60 hours a week. Really depends on what you do. Definitely people in the field who are killing it.

[dj9i27]

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[Instrumental]

I worked in retail and it was miserable. Working in retail food service would probably lead to me ejecting my brain matter through my skull.

[dj9i27]

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[laqueredup]

yeah this was was group with sub categories and game 4 was algebra

Game 4 was literally child's play. It was straight up monopoly. But yeah don't remember any LSAT games like it.

[34iplaw]

yeah this was was group with sub categories and game 4 was algebra

Game 4 was literally child's play. It was straight up monopoly. But yeah don't remember any LSAT games like it.

There aren't. I have seen some people compare it to flasks, but I think it is a fundamentally different game. I thought flasks was far more challenging and time consuming than buildings. Buildings was a trick more than anything imo.

[dontsaywhatyoumean]

Engineers pros:

Salary
4 year degree only
Less debt
Easier to get into
Better job market

I have my doubts some days

Some BigLaw partners make like 1.5 million.... Just don't dread the hours.

Yes, I suppose the ceiling is much higher. I don't want to work more than 50 hours a week though.

I just mean, there are so many other things I enjoy doing, and a relationship also takes time.

After 200k (CAD, so like 140 USD), what's the return on my happiness (personally)?

I don't think a mansion and a super nice sports car is going to make me significantly happier than a large house and a bmw.

I could only see myself working a ton of hours if it was more fun than what else I'd do with my time, and I was single. Otherwise I think it's really easy to drift a part in a relationship. I don't really believe in a relationship if I'm only seeing the other person for an hour a day.

(Not aiming for corporate law.)

/sorry slight rant, but just trying to figure things out too.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Engineers pros:

Salary
4 year degree only
Less debt
Easier to get into
Better job market

I have my doubts some days

Some BigLaw partners make like 1.5 million.... Just don't dread the hours.

Yes, I suppose the ceiling is much higher. I don't want to work more than 50 hours a week though.

I just mean, there are so many other things I enjoy doing, and a relationship also takes time.

After 200k (CAD, so like 140 USD), what's the return on my happiness (personally)?

I don't think a mansion and a super nice sports car is going to make me significantly happier than a large house and a bmw.

I could only see myself working a ton of hours if it was more fun than what else I'd do with my time, and I was single. Otherwise I think it's really easy to drift a part in a relationship. I don't really believe in a relationship if I'm only seeing the other person for an hour a day.

(Not aiming for corporate law.)

/sorry slight rant, but just trying to figure things out too.

From what I've heard, the first few years are going to be a grind when you want to be extremely successful (~300 hr months), but after about 5 yrs or more generally "long-term" the hours are way more natural and traditional where you aren't missing dinner every night and have to work weekends. To me that is totally worth it.

Besides a mansion and hypercars, i believe there is way more to a return on making a salary above 200k than you suggest. 200k in the grand scheme is comfortable but not a lot of money when you have a family. Also, more wealth opens up a lot more freedoms than just material items, like travel ... etc..

I'm not saying if you only desire 200k to be happy you are wrong, because thats personal preference, but just overall from a broad perspective, I wouldn't set that limit of diminishing returns at 200k

[dj9i27]

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[Greenteachurro]

Engineers pros:

Salary
4 year degree only
Less debt
Easier to get into
Better job market

I have my doubts some days

Some BigLaw partners make like 1.5 million.... Just don't dread the hours.

Yes, I suppose the ceiling is much higher. I don't want to work more than 50 hours a week though.

I just mean, there are so many other things I enjoy doing, and a relationship also takes time.

After 200k (CAD, so like 140 USD), what's the return on my happiness (personally)?

I don't think a mansion and a super nice sports car is going to make me significantly happier than a large house and a bmw.

I could only see myself working a ton of hours if it was more fun than what else I'd do with my time, and I was single. Otherwise I think it's really easy to drift a part in a relationship. I don't really believe in a relationship if I'm only seeing the other person for an hour a day.

(Not aiming for corporate law.)

/sorry slight rant, but just trying to figure things out too.

Yeah I fear being trapped into big law with large LS debt. I really want to work for a mid-sized firm I think. I'm with you, I don't want to work a ton of hours or work all the time. I want to have nice family life as well.

[dontsaywhatyoumean]

From what I've heard, the first few years are going to be a grind when you want to be extremely successful (~300 hr months), but after about 5 yrs or more generally "long-term" the hours are way more natural and traditional where you aren't missing dinner every night and have to work weekends. To me that is totally worth it.

Besides a mansion and hypercars, i believe there is way more to a return on making a salary above 200k than you suggest. 200k in the grand scheme is comfortable but not a lot of money when you have a family. Also, more wealth opens up a lot more freedoms than just material items, like travel ... etc..

I'm not saying if you only desire 200k to be happy you are wrong, because thats personal preference, but just overall from a broad perspective, I wouldn't set that limit of diminishing returns at 200k

I totally acknowledge there are large differences after 200k, but for myself, not necessarily worth an extra 10-20 hours a week.

Which is obviously what this gets down to. I wonder how many on TLS share the big law partner aspirations though. Obviously many I'm sure.

I know Alexandros and I have had this discussion of BigLaw hours and other opportunities we bought up the idea of Med School compared to LS/BigLaw. Personally, I am 90% LS at this point and 10% Med (dwindling everyday) the way I look at it, Med School has the short end of the stick for a long time in regards to pay and hours. Med is more debt, longer, residency is at least 4 years and you'll make 70grand if you're lucky working hours that make BigLaw look like a walk in the park. Not everyone here is considering these two, but in my case LS is actually the much nicer route opposed to Med.

I'd be okay working bitch hours for a few years to develop a nest egg, I'm single so it is different in my case as well.

I totally understand this perspective, and don't think it's necessarily unreasonable depending on your goals (hmm, this sort of sounds like I'm saying it's unlikely to be reasonable. I don't mean that at all.)

For me it would be more engineering vs law. In which case I think there's a good case to be made for engineering (given my goals).

[dj9i27]

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[34iplaw]

Engineers pros:

Salary
4 year degree only
Less debt
Easier to get into
Better job market

I have my doubts some days

Some BigLaw partners make like 1.5 million.... Just don't dread the hours.

Yes, I suppose the ceiling is much higher. I don't want to work more than 50 hours a week though.

I just mean, there are so many other things I enjoy doing, and a relationship also takes time.

After 200k (CAD, so like 140 USD), what's the return on my happiness (personally)?

I don't think a mansion and a super nice sports car is going to make me significantly happier than a large house and a bmw.

I could only see myself working a ton of hours if it was more fun than what else I'd do with my time, and I was single. Otherwise I think it's really easy to drift a part in a relationship. I don't really believe in a relationship if I'm only seeing the other person for an hour a day.

(Not aiming for corporate law.)

/sorry slight rant, but just trying to figure things out too.

From what I've heard, the first few years are going to be a grind when you want to be extremely successful (~300 hr months), but after about 5 yrs or more generally "long-term" the hours are way more natural and traditional where you aren't missing dinner every night and have to work weekends. To me that is totally worth it.

Besides a mansion and hypercars, i believe there is way more to a return on making a salary above 200k than you suggest. 200k in the grand scheme is comfortable but not a lot of money when you have a family. Also, more wealth opens up a lot more freedoms than just material items, like travel ... etc..

I'm not saying if you only desire 200k to be happy you are wrong, because thats personal preference, but just overall from a broad perspective, I wouldn't set that limit of diminishing returns at 200k

Yeah - I mean I'm kind of with you. Then again, my dad didn't have kids until his mid 40s, so I may have a bit of a skewed perception on things where I don't foresee myself having a family for another 15-20 years. It really depends. I'm more than fine (granted, older at this point), trudging through the hours. I guess I have the benefit of having waited now that several friends of mine from UG are getting up there in the associate level at their firms.

[Pozzo]

I hear what y'all are saying, but come on, it's In-N-Out Burger.

[laqueredup]

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[FayRays]

Hey all, how did you do on the test, I'll be in similar position, 12 months from now


Best of luck