The Official June 2017 Study Group Forum

[dj9i27]

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[Mikey]

Diagnostic test in the books, got a 160. For you more experienced LSAT'ers, is an improvement to a 172-174 realistic. GPA could have been higher so I need a high LSAT to get into my goal schools.

that is a very realistic score that you can get. where did you lose most of your points on your diagnostic?

I like your name lol

[LawLivesMatter]

Diagnostic test in the books, got a 160. For you more experienced LSAT'ers, is an improvement to a 172-174 realistic. GPA could have been higher so I need a high LSAT to get into my goal schools.

that is a very realistic score that you can get. where did you lose most of your points on your diagnostic?

I like your name lol

Haha thanks. RC and LG is where I lost most of my points. RC: 20/27, LG: 13/23. A little concerned because I've heard RC is a tough section to improve a lot on.

[PrezRand]

Gonna start again today. I realized I have no motivation to work on RC. I'll focus on that towards the end of the month

Diagnostic test in the books, got a 160. For you more experienced LSAT'ers, is an improvement to a 172-174 realistic. GPA could have been higher so I need a high LSAT to get into my goal schools.

that is a very realistic score that you can get. where did you lose most of your points on your diagnostic?

I like your name lol

Haha thanks. RC and LG is where I lost most of my points. RC: 20/27, LG: 13/23. A little concerned because I've heard RC is a tough section to improve a lot on.

LG is the easiest to improve on.

[Mikey]

Diagnostic test in the books, got a 160. For you more experienced LSAT'ers, is an improvement to a 172-174 realistic. GPA could have been higher so I need a high LSAT to get into my goal schools.

that is a very realistic score that you can get. where did you lose most of your points on your diagnostic?

I like your name lol

Haha thanks. RC and LG is where I lost most of my points. RC: 20/27, LG: 13/23. A little concerned because I've heard RC is a tough section to improve a lot on.

Yeah RC is usually the hardest section to improve on, but it's not impossible! Improvements with RC usually just seem to happy more slowly than the other sections. Like prez said, LG is the easiest to improve on so it's good that it seems like your weakest section.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Diagnostic test in the books, got a 160. For you more experienced LSAT'ers, is an improvement to a 172-174 realistic. GPA could have been higher so I need a high LSAT to get into my goal schools.

that is a very realistic score that you can get. where did you lose most of your points on your diagnostic?

I like your name lol

Haha thanks. RC and LG is where I lost most of my points. RC: 20/27, LG: 13/23. A little concerned because I've heard RC is a tough section to improve a lot on.

Yeah RC is usually the hardest section to improve on, but it's not impossible! Improvements with RC usually just seem to happy more slowly than the other sections. Like prez said, LG is the easiest to improve on so it's good that it seems like your weakest section.

What Mikey said, and also, going -7 for RC on a first run is really good. A lot of ppl struggle to get that -10. I reckon with ample prep you would get that sub 5's if you work at it and hone in on what you are getting wrong.

[aurelian]

Checking in for the first time.

Long time lurker, but looking to crush the LSAT. I just took a diagnostic the other day and got a 22/25 LR1, 23/26 LR2, 22/26 RC and a pitiful 9/24 on LG. Gonna start out with the Trainer for around 30-35 hours a week (studying full time) and see if I can get up to shape by June. We got this fellas.

[PrezRand]

Is anyone here not aiming for the t14?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Doing the mini-drills in the trainer or any book always seem so monotonous to me, although, I know the repetition and focus really does help approach full on problems..

[rubixcube]

Doing the mini-drills in the trainer or any book always seem so monotonous to me, although, I know the repetition and focus really does help approach full on problems..

The mini-drills on the Trainer for Logical Reasoning can be a bit repetitive and tedious, but I do believe for beginners it is a good approach to get them into the critical mindset and involved in locating flaws. I think everyone is just eager to jump into the practice problems from actual exams.

[LawLivesMatter]

Diagnostic test in the books, got a 160. For you more experienced LSAT'ers, is an improvement to a 172-174 realistic. GPA could have been higher so I need a high LSAT to get into my goal schools.

that is a very realistic score that you can get. where did you lose most of your points on your diagnostic?

I like your name lol

Haha thanks. RC and LG is where I lost most of my points. RC: 20/27, LG: 13/23. A little concerned because I've heard RC is a tough section to improve a lot on.

Yeah RC is usually the hardest section to improve on, but it's not impossible! Improvements with RC usually just seem to happy more slowly than the other sections. Like prez said, LG is the easiest to improve on so it's good that it seems like your weakest section.

What Mikey said, and also, going -7 for RC on a first run is really good. A lot of ppl struggle to get that -10. I reckon with ample prep you would get that sub 5's if you work at it and hone in on what you are getting wrong.

This probably seems like a dumb question, but how do you exactly hone in on what you are doing wrong? I am planning on going through all my PTs in depth but how do I know what type of questions each one is? I'm probably not conveying my concerns perfectly, but hopefully someone understands what I'm getting at.

[LawLivesMatter]

Diagnostic test in the books, got a 160. For you more experienced LSAT'ers, is an improvement to a 172-174 realistic. GPA could have been higher so I need a high LSAT to get into my goal schools.

that is a very realistic score that you can get. where did you lose most of your points on your diagnostic?

I like your name lol

Haha thanks. RC and LG is where I lost most of my points. RC: 20/27, LG: 13/23. A little concerned because I've heard RC is a tough section to improve a lot on.

Yeah RC is usually the hardest section to improve on, but it's not impossible! Improvements with RC usually just seem to happy more slowly than the other sections. Like prez said, LG is the easiest to improve on so it's good that it seems like your weakest section.

What Mikey said, and also, going -7 for RC on a first run is really good. A lot of ppl struggle to get that -10. I reckon with ample prep you would get that sub 5's if you work at it and hone in on what you are getting wrong.

This probably seems like a dumb question, but how do you exactly hone in on what you are doing wrong? I am planning on going through all my PTs in depth but how do I know what type of questions each one is? I'm probably not conveying my concerns perfectly, but hopefully someone understands what I'm getting at.

Maybe Law School isn't for me if I can't "convey my concerns" lol.

[rubixcube]

Diagnostic test in the books, got a 160. For you more experienced LSAT'ers, is an improvement to a 172-174 realistic. GPA could have been higher so I need a high LSAT to get into my goal schools.

that is a very realistic score that you can get. where did you lose most of your points on your diagnostic?

I like your name lol

Haha thanks. RC and LG is where I lost most of my points. RC: 20/27, LG: 13/23. A little concerned because I've heard RC is a tough section to improve a lot on.

Yeah RC is usually the hardest section to improve on, but it's not impossible! Improvements with RC usually just seem to happy more slowly than the other sections. Like prez said, LG is the easiest to improve on so it's good that it seems like your weakest section.

What Mikey said, and also, going -7 for RC on a first run is really good. A lot of ppl struggle to get that -10. I reckon with ample prep you would get that sub 5's if you work at it and hone in on what you are getting wrong.

This probably seems like a dumb question, but how do you exactly hone in on what you are doing wrong? I am planning on going through all my PTs in depth but how do I know what type of questions each one is? I'm probably not conveying my concerns perfectly, but hopefully someone understands what I'm getting at.

The question type is related to the question being posed in the stimulus. For example, there are a variety of question types for the Logical Reasoning section (i.e. weaken, assumption, resolve the paradox, strengthen, etc.). Depending on the review book or program you follow, the company might change the name ever so slightly to describe the question type. If you utilize any of the bibles from PowerScore, they will always give a breakdown of the question types and the best strategies to tackle the question type.

[V1ncent_G]

Checking in.
I wonder if anyone can provide me with some sketchy plan(website links are O.K.) on crushing LSAT. It could be hard for me to make everyday takes without an overall plan. I would be grateful to any advice.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Diagnostic test in the books, got a 160. For you more experienced LSAT'ers, is an improvement to a 172-174 realistic. GPA could have been higher so I need a high LSAT to get into my goal schools.

that is a very realistic score that you can get. where did you lose most of your points on your diagnostic?

I like your name lol

Haha thanks. RC and LG is where I lost most of my points. RC: 20/27, LG: 13/23. A little concerned because I've heard RC is a tough section to improve a lot on.

Yeah RC is usually the hardest section to improve on, but it's not impossible! Improvements with RC usually just seem to happy more slowly than the other sections. Like prez said, LG is the easiest to improve on so it's good that it seems like your weakest section.

What Mikey said, and also, going -7 for RC on a first run is really good. A lot of ppl struggle to get that -10. I reckon with ample prep you would get that sub 5's if you work at it and hone in on what you are getting wrong.

This probably seems like a dumb question, but how do you exactly hone in on what you are doing wrong? I am planning on going through all my PTs in depth but how do I know what type of questions each one is? I'm probably not conveying my concerns perfectly, but hopefully someone understands what I'm getting at.

The question type is related to the question being posed in the stimulus. For example, there are a variety of question types for the Logical Reasoning section (i.e. weaken, assumption, resolve the paradox, strengthen, etc.). Depending on the review book or program you follow, the company might change the name ever so slightly to describe the question type. If you utilize any of the bibles from PowerScore, they will always give a breakdown of the question types and the best strategies to tackle the question type.

Yeah rubix explained this well. There are lists on this forum (sorry I didn't check for the link but maybe someone can post the link for you here) that say what each question in PT is categorized as. As you prep more too, it becomes more second nature and if you keep track, you will see what you are consistently getting wrong. Then you would just spend some time drilling only that question-type.

Hope this helps

[O.J.]

Checking in.
I wonder if anyone can provide me with some sketchy plan(website links are O.K.) on crushing LSAT. It could be hard for me to make everyday takes without an overall plan. I would be grateful to any advice.

Loaded question, but it's pretty much what we all want to do, and why we're here. So read all the threads in the prep section of this forum. I would keep these methods/books in mind:

LSAT Trainer
7Sage
LG/LR Bibles

You can't go wrong there for a start. The first two provide excellent "plans" to get you scheduled for the June take, and will get you moving in the right direction. Good luck!

[cDongDong]

Checking in

[dj9i27]

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[Mikey]

did pretty shitty on rc today. calling it a day for the lsat for now

[dj9i27]

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[PrezRand]

Just woke up

[Rupert Pupkin]

Got back into studying every day, but I need to pick up the intensity. been pretty lax lol. Want to really make the best use of this break

[thazel]

Checking in for the first time.

Going to be sitting the June 2017 LSAT for the first time from New Zealand so it's great to have found this forum - no one knows much about the LSAT where I live.

I've been using the LG and LR Powerscore Bibles to begin with for self-study - what other books would you seasoned LSAT preppers recommend? Best books for RC prep?

Are online courses worth the cost or is a 170+ score achievable with self-study alone? I'll be studying about 15 hours a week initially and will up the hours closer to June as I'm doing my BA honours thesis this year at the same time.

[rubixcube]

Checking in for the first time.

Going to be sitting the June 2017 LSAT for the first time from New Zealand so it's great to have found this forum - no one knows much about the LSAT where I live.

I've been using the LG and LR Powerscore Bibles to begin with for self-study - what other books would you seasoned LSAT preppers recommend? Best books for RC prep?

Are online courses worth the cost or is a 170+ score achievable with self-study alone? I'll be studying about 15 hours a week initially and will up the hours closer to June as I'm doing my BA honours thesis this year at the same time.

Hi there, welcome aboard. It's good to hear you have the bibles from PowerScore, they're extremely useful for jumping straight into the content of the LSAT and picking up good habits for test-taking. A lot of people on here, as do I, swear by Mike Kim's LSAT Trainer. I would recommend the book as a supplement to the bibles from PowerScore, because the Trainer does a very good job at giving you a big picture look of the exam.

[O.J.]

Is anyone here not aiming for the t14?

Me. But I'm the exception (43 years old). I own a home, have a family and my income will be supplemental, not a necessity. I need a local school and aiming for Pepperdine or LMU, maybe UCLA if enough $ is offered. Very debt adverse, so a solid LSAT is paramount for me. I have really strong softs, URM, and between my diagnostic so far and 3.8GPA, I should nail this thing. Fingers crossed.

What's your situation? Why are you looking outside T-14?