February 2014 LSAT Study Group Forum

Baby_Got_Feuerbach · Post by **Baby_Got_Feuerbach** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:26 am

Oh boy. Had a dream about studying last night.

xylocarp · Post by **xylocarp** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:06 am

october wrote:anyone interested in taking PT's and conducting group review sessions?

I definitely am! I'm going to start PTing on the week of January 5 (when I get back from a trip).

xylocarp · Post by **xylocarp** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:12 am

Baby_Got_Feuerbach wrote:Oh boy. Had a dream about studying last night.

I've had dreams about getting my score back (always terrible or impossibly high, like 185), dreams about going into test day and realizing I don't know how to read, and dreams where I'm stuck in elaborate real-life logic games.
...I definitely think about the LSAT too much.

W$RKliveWELL · Post by **W$RKliveWELL** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:50 am

anyone know where I can download and print the last 15 exams? If we cant talk about it here please pm me!

KingJamesLBJ · Post by **KingJamesLBJ** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:18 pm

W$RKliveWELL wrote:anyone know where I can download and print the last 15 exams? If we cant talk about it here please pm me!

http://www.cambridgelsat.com/preptests/4-section/

W$RKliveWELL · Post by **W$RKliveWELL** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:35 pm

Thanks KingJamesLBJ but paying 8 a test is kind of steep at this stage in my prep. I need it for free 99 or ill trade it for some cambridge packets

edit: I need 65-70

btw Lebron ain't seeing Kobe EVER just saying!

90convoy · Post by **90convoy** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:57 pm

october wrote:I'm in. I have a 3.95 LSAC GPA and hoping to score around a 168-170 to get into a T14 school. Just scored 162 on PT 58, went -6 LR1, -4 RC, -5 LG, and -7 LR2. I'm having trouble with In Out Grouping games, which seems to reflect a bigger problem of misunderstanding and misinterpreting conditional logic.

anyone interested in taking PT's and conducting group review sessions?

Let's destroy this thing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyYV0TBY3rU

Have you tried manhattan's technique for in/out games?

Tlucidum · Post by **Tlucidum** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:29 pm

90convoy wrote:Have you tried manhattan's technique for in/out games?

Manhattan in/out is the Truth.

cloy26 · Post by **cloy26** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:13 pm

Tlucidum wrote:
90convoy wrote:Have you tried manhattan's technique for in/out games?
Manhattan in/out is the Truth.

Is it different from 7sage?

10052014 · Post by **10052014** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:21 pm

90convoy · Post by **90convoy** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:52 pm

Uhhhh....I took PT 53 today and went -2 LR and -10 on RC. How TF does that happen? My RC is sooo inconsistent lol

pech71 · Post by **pech71** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:00 pm

Finally starting to get back into studying a little after miss bubbling LG section on October test (I flipped out.......

)

....anyone using testmasters? is it worth the 950$ for online version? I need to just crash study for next 6 weeks.

pech71 · Post by **pech71** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:07 pm

or what is the best prep course right now? 7sage?

10052014 · Post by **10052014** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:21 pm

10052014 · Post by **10052014** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:22 pm

zhenders · Post by **zhenders** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:39 pm

jaylawyer09 wrote:
pech71 wrote:or what is the best prep course right now? 7sage?
From what I've heard, 7sage is very beneficial considering the price (~200)
Yet, I believe that if you have already taken a test and have knowledge of the fundamentals, then you may not be in need of such a course. Perhaps you only need to focus on the nuances, since it seems you already have knowledge of the basics of the lsat.

Furthermore, if you want to start a course now, perhaps it will be too close to the test date of Feb. - Usually, you need some time to digest the information etc.

All in all, I don't think that you cant do anything that a prep company has to offer - with Manhattan, Powerscore, and others such as the cambridge packet, you should be able to pull off a good score, mainly because a course is only designed to get you in the 160s.

Hope this helps

+1

If you insist upon a course, I personally thing 7Sage is tops -- but I totally agree that 1 month out isn't enough time to get a full course benefit.

I think most people you talk to on here will tell you that highly motivated individual study is where it's at; if you have trouble motivating yourself, then I can see how a course might be helpful -- but online courses are almost always self-paced, so they wouldn't be helpful in that sense.

Peruse the forum -- there are some great study guides you can adapt for the next month!

pech71 · Post by **pech71** » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:27 am

zhenders wrote:
jaylawyer09 wrote:
pech71 wrote:or what is the best prep course right now? 7sage?
From what I've heard, 7sage is very beneficial considering the price (~200)
Yet, I believe that if you have already taken a test and have knowledge of the fundamentals, then you may not be in need of such a course. Perhaps you only need to focus on the nuances, since it seems you already have knowledge of the basics of the lsat.

Furthermore, if you want to start a course now, perhaps it will be too close to the test date of Feb. - Usually, you need some time to digest the information etc.

All in all, I don't think that you cant do anything that a prep company has to offer - with Manhattan, Powerscore, and others such as the cambridge packet, you should be able to pull off a good score, mainly because a course is only designed to get you in the 160s.

Hope this helps
+1

If you insist upon a course, I personally thing 7Sage is tops -- but I totally agree that 1 month out isn't enough time to get a full course benefit.

I think most people you talk to on here will tell you that highly motivated individual study is where it's at; if you have trouble motivating yourself, then I can see how a course might be helpful -- but online courses are almost always self-paced, so they wouldn't be helpful in that sense.

Peruse the forum -- there are some great study guides you can adapt for the next month!

So just buying the premium 7sage for 350 should do the trick to hit a 165? (i.e., the ultimate is not unnecessary since I will only take test one more time and have 6 weeks)

Nicolena. · Post by **Nicolena.** » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:29 am

jaylawyer09 wrote:
cloy26 wrote:
Tlucidum wrote:
90convoy wrote:Have you tried manhattan's technique for in/out games?
Manhattan in/out is the Truth.
Is it different from 7sage?
7sage in/out is perhaps the best method for in/out.

Sometimes I find it helpful to just rewrite the entities and circle or X the entities that are in and out. However, I don't do this when there are subcategories in the in and out games - then I follow 7sages method.

zhenders · Post by **zhenders** » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:22 pm

pech71 wrote:
zhenders wrote:
jaylawyer09 wrote:
pech71 wrote:or what is the best prep course right now? 7sage?
From what I've heard, 7sage is very beneficial considering the price (~200)
Yet, I believe that if you have already taken a test and have knowledge of the fundamentals, then you may not be in need of such a course. Perhaps you only need to focus on the nuances, since it seems you already have knowledge of the basics of the lsat.

Furthermore, if you want to start a course now, perhaps it will be too close to the test date of Feb. - Usually, you need some time to digest the information etc.

All in all, I don't think that you cant do anything that a prep company has to offer - with Manhattan, Powerscore, and others such as the cambridge packet, you should be able to pull off a good score, mainly because a course is only designed to get you in the 160s.

Hope this helps
+1

If you insist upon a course, I personally thing 7Sage is tops -- but I totally agree that 1 month out isn't enough time to get a full course benefit.

I think most people you talk to on here will tell you that highly motivated individual study is where it's at; if you have trouble motivating yourself, then I can see how a course might be helpful -- but online courses are almost always self-paced, so they wouldn't be helpful in that sense.

Peruse the forum -- there are some great study guides you can adapt for the next month!
So just buying the premium 7sage for 350 should do the trick to hit a 165? (i.e., the ultimate is not unnecessary since I will only take test one more time and have 6 weeks)

Depending upon where you're starting at, that's very possible -- but of course the courses alone aren't enough

if you are highly motivated, a 165 is achievable in this time frame without 7sage or any other program; with it though, you may find it easier.

We all come from different places financially, so it's sort of a tough discussion; if my goals were a 165, I would probably not purchase a course, because for me, $200+ is a significant monetary expenditure. Now, if it were my only way to achieve my desired score, then it would be well worth it -- but I feel a 165 is within the grasp of most people with intensive study over a month.

Best of luck with whichever path you choose.

october · Post by **october** » Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:28 am

90convoy wrote:
october wrote: Just scored 162 on PT 58, went -6 LR1, -4 RC, -5 LG, and -7 LR2. I'm having trouble with In Out Grouping games, which seems to reflect a bigger problem of misunderstanding and misinterpreting conditional logic.

anyone interested in taking PT's and conducting group review sessions?

Let's destroy this thing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyYV0TBY3rU
Have you tried manhattan's technique for in/out games?

I skimmed over that chapter a week ago and kind of half assed it. My diagram ended up looking like a f'd up spider web. I'm definitely going to read it properly the day after christmas.

90convoy · Post by **90convoy** » Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:11 pm

october wrote:
90convoy wrote:
october wrote:I'm in. I have a 3.95 LSAC GPA and hoping to score around a 168-170 to get into a T14 school. Just scored 162 on PT 58, went -6 LR1, -4 RC, -5 LG, and -7 LR2. I'm having trouble with In Out Grouping games, which seems to reflect a bigger problem of misunderstanding and misinterpreting conditional logic.

anyone interested in taking PT's and conducting group review sessions?

Let's destroy this thing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyYV0TBY3rU
Have you tried manhattan's technique for in/out games?

I skimmed over that chapter a week ago and kind of half assed it. My diagram ended up looking like a f'd up spider web. I'm definitely going to read it properly the day after christmas.

yes because this method makes in/out games a gimmie

Split90 · Post by **Split90** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:22 am

Split90 · Post by **Split90** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:41 am

Winston1984 · Post by **Winston1984** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:50 am

Welp, I just registered for the test. This will be my third take, and I am in the middle of a cycle right now, but I figure it would be stupid not to try for a few more points and some more $$$. Also just ordered the LSAT Trainer. I look forward to studying with you guys!

W$RKliveWELL · Post by **W$RKliveWELL** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:29 pm

Does anyone know off hand or have a list of the T-14 thats accepting Feb LSAT scores this year?

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