October 2012 Retakers Forum

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[NoodleyOne]

I posted this in that otha thread BUT it got buried SOoo

Are there any good books for drilling the LG sections? Like ideally a book that just has every LG from every PT in one place, and if I'm allowed to dream, in the new layout?

I heard some company is prepping that for their 2013 edition, but none now. Maybe just bring an extra sheet of paper for the extra space?

[flem]

I posted this in that otha thread BUT it got buried SOoo

Are there any good books for drilling the LG sections? Like ideally a book that just has every LG from every PT in one place, and if I'm allowed to dream, in the new layout?

Cambridge LSAT has them bundled so you can download and print them in PDF format. Pretty sweet. I have every section and photocopied each three times to do them over and over again.

[espressocream]

Drank coffee after breaking my fast, managed to get in 2 sections...at 1:30am.

-2 on both LR.

Word.

[TheThriller]

Drank coffee after breaking my fast, managed to get in 2 sections...at 1:30am.

-2 on both LR.

Word.

Hell Yea!

[Honey_Badger]

Drank coffee after breaking my fast, managed to get in 2 sections...at 1:30am.

-2 on both LR.

Word.

You go, espresso!

[TheThriller]

Espresso motivated me to do a timed LR section and I went -0!

I don't know about this but maybe Velocity is working!!

[Honey_Badger]

Espresso motivated me to do a timed LR section and I went -0!

I don't know about this but maybe Velocity is working!!

Nice work, Miller!

[espressocream]

Espresso motivated me to do a timed LR section and I went -0!

I don't know about this but maybe Velocity is working!!

Finally we're getting somewhere in this thread!

[NoodleyOne]

Went on a sudden vacation to visit my brother and his kids. While I've enjoyed the time, this has been five days without even seeing LSAT material outside of this site. When I get back I go through the Manhattan guides while drilling from Cambridge LSAT. I am hoping that I can drill the hell out of SA/NA (my one weak point in LR, not surprisingly) and get that consistently -0/-1 per section. If I can do that, while maintaining my -0/-1 LG and -2/-3 RC, I could be in really good shape.

[seacow]

Did some mad RC today after a few days off. 6 sections; -12 total. Untimed but ~35 minutes each. Word.

They were mostly familiar sections, but still.

I'm getting somewhere with this untimed, not moving on until 100% approach. My annotation is working too (noting the function of sentences and bracketing conclusions).

It is still a little disconcerting to tell myself that I am not going to move on until I am 100% and still miss ~2 per section. While there are bona fide reasons for some of my misses, sometimes I am settling, or at least selecting an answer without fully exhausting all of ways by which I can figure out the answer.

As I write this, it seems to me like I should slow it down even more. I don't really think I am performing much different than I would before June. -2 is great for me, obviously. But they are old sections, I have improved my annotation, and I am now prephrasing, which I did not do on test day. I don't really feel like I'm achieving my goal of correcting my "settling" habit and not really learning any mid-test, answer-solving techniques (i.e. knowing how not to have that lapse in focus or overlooking the right answer).

What do you guys think about this "no settling" thing? I don't think anyone has commented on it yet.

[anteater1]

Looks like it's just about time to get back in the mix, looking forward to keeping up with you guys in the waiting for results thread

Edit: fwiw I scored a 167 in Feb, don't know if people posted prior results or not

[Easy-E]

Christ I need to start studying again.

[Pocahontas]

Just finished two LG sections and went -3 and -2.

I'm getting there.

[99.9luft]

Christ I need to start studying again.

this^

also, i pretend that doing 90s LG = studying. LOL @ me avoiding PTs. This Sat..it shall begin.

[anteater1]

So is there any consensus on which bundle is preferable between Manhattan and Velocity?

I read the bibles before my first LSAT is there something different that I wouldn't get from the bibles in either of these books? And are they well suited for higher scorers (high 160's, low 170's)?

I had planned on just doing PT's but after skimming the thread I see a lot of high scorers are using books.

[espressocream]

So is there any consensus on which bundle is preferable between Manhattan and Velocity?

I read the bibles before my first LSAT is there something different that I wouldn't get from the bibles in either of these books? And are they well suited for higher scorers (high 160's, low 170's)?

I had planned on just doing PT's but after skimming the thread I see a lot of high scorers are using books.

I'm personally really enjoying Manhattan LR and after a couple chapters it's already helped my LR.
I know a lot of people also love Velocity.

[espressocream]

Did some mad RC today after a few days off. 6 sections; -12 total. Untimed but ~35 minutes each. Word.

They were mostly familiar sections, but still.

I'm getting somewhere with this untimed, not moving on until 100% approach. My annotation is working too (noting the function of sentences and bracketing conclusions).

It is still a little disconcerting to tell myself that I am not going to move on until I am 100% and still miss ~2 per section. While there are bona fide reasons for some of my misses, sometimes I am settling, or at least selecting an answer without fully exhausting all of ways by which I can figure out the answer.

As I write this, it seems to me like I should slow it down even more. I don't really think I am performing much different than I would before June. -2 is great for me, obviously. But they are old sections, I have improved my annotation, and I am now prephrasing, which I did not do on test day. I don't really feel like I'm achieving my goal of correcting my "settling" habit and not really learning any mid-test, answer-solving techniques (i.e. knowing how not to have that lapse in focus or overlooking the right answer).

What do you guys think about this "no settling" thing? I don't think anyone has commented on it yet.

Nice RC work.

I settle as well and it's a really bad habit that needs to be broken, and I read your post earlier and tried out the "no settling" thing - works well for me.
The process definitely takes much longer, but I can see this being a very good method for retakers.
I'll keep with it and post updates.

[rglifberg]

Man, the Manhattan LR guide is 1000x better than the LR bible.

[NoodleyOne]

Man, the Manhattan LR guide is 1000x better than the LR bible.

This. I am ready to CRUSH necessary and sufficient assumptions.

[johnmuir1]

Long-time lurker here, hoping to get some advice. I'm looking to improve on some of LR question types but I'm not sure if I should study on my own or get another test prep book. I took testmasters about two years ago and have the Manhattan LG and RC books. Is it worth it to get the Manhattan LR book as well, or take up the testmasters material again?

[theprophet89]

Man, the Manhattan LR guide is 1000x better than the LR bible.

Hope so, I just ordered it. Half the price of the LRB too... what was I thinking originally?

[moopness]

Checking in. Hopefully it goes better this time, hahaha...
Good luck pplz!

[Pocahontas]

Man, the Manhattan LR guide is 1000x better than the LR bible.

This. I am ready to CRUSH necessary and sufficient assumptions.

All this talk of the Manhattan magic has finally convinced me to lay my LRB down and give it a try.

[espressocream]

Man, the Manhattan LR guide is 1000x better than the LR bible.

This. I am ready to CRUSH necessary and sufficient assumptions.

THIS. When I read through that - everything made sense.

Long-time lurker here, hoping to get some advice. I'm looking to improve on some of LR question types but I'm not sure if I should study on my own or get another test prep book. I took testmasters about two years ago and have the Manhattan LG and RC books. Is it worth it to get the Manhattan LR book as well, or take up the testmasters material again?

Manhattan LR is fantastic. It's $10 for the nook version + free nook reader....if you don't mind reading off of your laptop.