The Official September 2014 Study Group Forum

[Colonel_funkadunk]

What is a fat lipper?

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[GreenTee]

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[BillPackets]

What is a fat lipper?

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i wish that was me

Edit:

Is it PW time already?

its always PW time

[Toby Ziegler]

Did PT 9 today.
RC -7 (I really need to study/drill RC)
LR1 -11 (not sure what in the actual fuuuu happened here...)
LG -2
LR2 -6

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Pretty disappointed with this LR performance. Going to drill the problem area questions. I also need to get faster at LG, spent way too much time on the first and second game.

[BillPackets]

Did PT 9 today.
RC -7 (I really need to study/drill RC)
LR1 -11 (not sure what in the actual fuuuu happened here...)
LG -2
LR2 -6

163

Pretty disappointed with this LR performance. Going to drill the problem area questions. I also need to get faster at LG, spent way too much time on the first and second game.

What kinds of LR Qs did u miss? Also the old tests are pretty similar to current tests, but they're weirdly different.

[Colonel_funkadunk]

its always PW time

This x1000

Edit: I'm an idiot when it comes to quoting

[Colonel_funkadunk]

Did PT 9 today.
RC -7 (I really need to study/drill RC)
LR1 -11 (not sure what in the actual fuuuu happened here...)
LG -2
LR2 -6

163

Pretty disappointed with this LR performance. Going to drill the problem area questions. I also need to get faster at LG, spent way too much time on the first and second game.

What kinds of LR Qs did u miss? Also the old tests are pretty similar to current tests, but they're weirdly different.

To add: was it more of a timing issue or an issue w the questions?

[hillz]

Also, how do people function without exercising? If I don't do something active in the morning, for the rest of the day I feel like I'm swimming through an ocean of maple syrup.

That's what caffeine is for! But seriously, I'm so glad I got back into early morning running recently, even if it means I'm getting up at 5:30.

Yep. First thing I do each morning is pound coffee. I need to get back into running but it's too goddamn hot this month.

[ilikebaseball]

Guys I must reveal my true intentions for attending UT is simply the abundance of 24 hr fitness centers

[ilikebaseball]

Another confession. I still have no clue what anyone is talking about when it comes to suff/necc assumption. I mean, I get pretty decent scores. I just dont think about it. I just fuckin answer it haha. I dont say "oh shit that's sufficient but not necessary" or anything. I literally just answer it. Perhaps I'd get one maybe two more ?'s right if I did (I dont even think I miss any of them) but my point is that I truly, truly believe that people think those out too much. Just answer it haha.

[Colonel_funkadunk]

Are we making the transformation to confession hour in the sept thread? I'm down

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[ilikebaseball]

People pay attention to the question stem wayyyy too much. I mean, its important, but like there are literally only 4 diff ways to attack questions. They all fall under the same categories. People just sorta freak out when they see assump ?'s

[GreenTee]

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[Colonel_funkadunk]

And my PT avg is pretty dece.

Confession: this is the understatement of the week.

[Colonel_funkadunk]

Another confession. I still have no clue what anyone is talking about when it comes to suff/necc assumption. I mean, I get pretty decent scores. I just dont think about it. I just fuckin answer it haha. I dont say "oh shit that's sufficient but not necessary" or anything. I literally just answer it. Perhaps I'd get one maybe two more ?'s right if I did (I dont even think I miss any of them) but my point is that I truly, truly believe that people think those out too much. Just answer it haha.

How do you "just answer it" without having a clear understanding of what the question is asking?

I mean, I guess you can POE your way through the easy questions without knowing the difference between a necessary and sufficient assumption, but it won't work on all of them. I approach these questions very differently, because they really are very different tasks.

I agree, I've seen some necessary questions where some of the wrong answer choices were sufficient but not necessary

[ilikebaseball]

Another confession. I still have no clue what anyone is talking about when it comes to suff/necc assumption. I mean, I get pretty decent scores. I just dont think about it. I just fuckin answer it haha. I dont say "oh shit that's sufficient but not necessary" or anything. I literally just answer it. Perhaps I'd get one maybe two more ?'s right if I did (I dont even think I miss any of them) but my point is that I truly, truly believe that people think those out too much. Just answer it haha.

How do you "just answer it" without having a clear understanding of what the question is asking?

I mean, I guess you can POE your way through the easy questions without knowing the difference between a necessary and sufficient assumption, but it won't work on all of them. I approach these questions very differently, because they really are very different tasks.

That's the thing. I do understand what its asking. However, I dont say to myself "oh that answer choice is sufficient, but not necessary." If you have to do that, youre thinking about it too hard. The LSAT should be something you take after acquiring a good question attacking habit. So, whenever I see an assumption I just answer it how its asked. I dont do the negation strategies or anything that the books try to teach.

All I'm saying is that people think WAY too hard about some questions and need a more simpler approach. Not just for assump, but for everything.

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[Colonel_funkadunk]

Okay both of your guys responses make a lot more sense now.

[BillPackets]

Big meh to the argument from ilikebaseball. If u can answer SA and NA without thinking about the differences, then that's what works for you. But they are different questions, and as such have different answers. I will say that my process for solving each is mostly similar (fill the gap/connect terms) they can vary enough that I find it worthwhile to know the difference.

I do agree w your argument when it comes to games. I did all the games from the Cambridge packet and can't tell you the difference between determined assignment/undetermined assignment, but I'm pretty good at games nonetheless.

Edit: spoke too soon. Gotcha

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[ilikebaseball]

Quick question on PT 23 S2 #26.

Its the one about restrictions on teenage drivers. I picked A. It's a weakenX question. How does the fact that teenagers drive an older car weaken the fact that teenagers lack basic driving skills? Just because a car is less stable doesnt make it any less of a car.

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Quick question on PT 23 S2 #26.

Its the one about restrictions on teenage drivers. I picked A. It's a weakenX question. How does the fact that teenagers drive an older car weaken the fact that teenagers lack basic driving skills? Just because a car is less stable doesnt make it any less of a car.

I don't have the question in front of me, but I think I remember why.

It actually acts as an alternative reason for them being in more accidents (or fatal accidents, I forget). It is an alternative because perhaps instead of them lacking basic driving skills, they simply drive shittier cars which are therefore more dangerous, giving the illusion that they lack driving skills, when they don't, they just lack money to get a decent vehicle.