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Re: The Official December 2016 Waiters Group

Post by bearedman8 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:58 pm

34iplaw wrote:Hey guys - creating a list of the various resources available.

What do you guys use to find explanations?

Off the top of my head...

7sage (LG)
LSATHacks (LR/RC)
Manhattan Prep (LR/RC)

Does anyone really use the PowerScore forums or find them useful? Any other sites people use that they find useful?
I used exclusively 7sage for games explanations and Manhattan forums for LR/RC explanations. I think Powerscore also has a bunch of LR explanations, but I preferred Manhattan since they've discussed every question and they're easier to find.

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Re: The Official December 2016 Waiters Group

Post by Tazewell » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:20 pm

Anyone feel confident about the cat food question? It's one of the only few that I didn't feel great about but still think I got it right.
Over analyzing each questionable LR answer after the test is almost as taxing as taking the freaking test.
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Post by Vino.Veritas » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:24 pm

Tazewell wrote: Over analyzing each questionable LR answer after the test is almost as taxing as taking the freaking test.
Me on test day: I definitely went -1
Me two days later: I definitely went -10

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Re: The Official December 2016 Waiters Group

Post by cherrygalore » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:32 pm

Vino.Veritas wrote:
Tazewell wrote: Over analyzing each questionable LR answer after the test is almost as taxing as taking the freaking test.
Me on test day: I definitely went -1
Me two days later: I definitely went -10
Haha same. Going back and forth every 30 min: I got a perfect score --> I'm going to Cooley --> and back again

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Re: The Official December 2016 Waiters Group

Post by dontsaywhatyoumean » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:38 pm

Are you guys in school or working?

I had the LSAT to occupy me, and now I am not working, nor studying for anything.

I feel aimless.

I feel like a teen on summer break again

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Re: The Official December 2016 Waiters Group

Post by Instrumental » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:39 pm

My problem with trying to gauge my LR performance is that I pretty much always give what is I think the best answer at the time, the main indicator of whether I may have gotten a question wrong is if the answer didn't immediately come to mind and I had to re-read the stimulus and answer choices. That's why blind review was of little use to me, because I'd usually feel pretty good about my LR performance (whether that turned out to be true or not, another question entirely). I'd just grade the test, circle the questions I got wrong and redo them.

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Post by Tazewell » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:42 pm

Instrumental wrote:My problem with trying to gauge my LR performance is that I pretty much always give what is I think the best answer at the time, the main indicator of whether I may have gotten a question wrong is if the answer didn't immediately come to mind and I had to re-read the stimulus and answer choices. That's why blind review was of little use to me, because I'd usually feel pretty good about my LR performance (whether that turned out to be true or not, another question entirely). I'd just grade the test, circle the questions I got wrong and redo them.
I had the same issue with Blind Review and LR, because I always had around 4 minutes left, so what I picked on the test was what I thought was the right answer and time was hardly ever a factor. BR really only helped me with RC, so that's the only section I did it for. Took the same approach with LR review as you did.

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Re: The Official December 2016 Waiters Group

Post by bearedman8 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:51 pm

Vino.Veritas wrote:
Tazewell wrote: Over analyzing each questionable LR answer after the test is almost as taxing as taking the freaking test.
Me on test day: I definitely went -1
Me two days later: I definitely went -10
I come out of it feeling fine, but then I see that a bunch of people had trouble on questions that I thought were easy and I question whether or not I fell for a trap/misread something.

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Re: The Official December 2016 Waiters Group

Post by Greenteachurro » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:58 pm

Tazewell wrote:
Instrumental wrote:My problem with trying to gauge my LR performance is that I pretty much always give what is I think the best answer at the time, the main indicator of whether I may have gotten a question wrong is if the answer didn't immediately come to mind and I had to re-read the stimulus and answer choices. That's why blind review was of little use to me, because I'd usually feel pretty good about my LR performance (whether that turned out to be true or not, another question entirely). I'd just grade the test, circle the questions I got wrong and redo them.
I had the same issue with Blind Review and LR, because I always had around 4 minutes left, so what I picked on the test was what I thought was the right answer and time was hardly ever a factor. BR really only helped me with RC, so that's the only section I did it for. Took the same approach with LR review as you did.
Lol I had the exact same problem. That problem was made worse for me during my studying because the ones I really struggled with I usually got right (just by ending up spending a ton of time on them) and the ones I got wrong I though were easy (because trap answers or reading errors). I never had any idea how people BR'd without doing the whole section. I always just circled what I got wrong and then wrote out why answers were either right or wrong and moved on, and usually would go onto manhattan's forums to see if my analysis was correct.

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Re: The Official December 2016 Waiters Group

Post by Pozzo » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:05 pm

bearedman8 wrote:
Vino.Veritas wrote:
Tazewell wrote: Over analyzing each questionable LR answer after the test is almost as taxing as taking the freaking test.
Me on test day: I definitely went -1
Me two days later: I definitely went -10
I come out of it feeling fine, but then I see that a bunch of people had trouble on questions that I thought were easy and I question whether or not I fell for a trap/misread something.
Seems to be a fairly common phenomenon. Everyone has different strengths, and no one knows yours better than you. Unless you were typically blindsided by questions you thought were easy during PTs, or you did little prep at all, your guts about the test and your prior PT performance probably track your own performance much better than our collective TLS neuroses.

TL;DR - I'm sure you did great.

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Re: The Official December 2016 Waiters Group

Post by cherrygalore » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:06 pm

dontsaywhatyoumean wrote:Are you guys in school or working?

I had the LSAT to occupy me, and now I am not working, nor studying for anything.

I feel aimless.

I feel like a teen on summer break again

I'm in the same position. Have to finish up my personal statement and a few other loose ends of my applications, but other than that, yeah, pretty aimless. Might go see a movie right now just so I stop obsessing about LR.

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Post by amta » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:07 pm

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Re: The Official December 2016 Waiters Group

Post by amta » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:07 pm

dontsaywhatyoumean wrote:Are you guys in school or working?

I had the LSAT to occupy me, and now I am not working, nor studying for anything.

I feel aimless.

I feel like a teen on summer break again
i work full-time. take up reading or something.

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Re: The Official December 2016 Waiters Group

Post by bearedman8 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:12 pm

Pozzo wrote:
bearedman8 wrote:
Vino.Veritas wrote:
Tazewell wrote: Over analyzing each questionable LR answer after the test is almost as taxing as taking the freaking test.
Me on test day: I definitely went -1
Me two days later: I definitely went -10
I come out of it feeling fine, but then I see that a bunch of people had trouble on questions that I thought were easy and I question whether or not I fell for a trap/misread something.
Seems to be a fairly common phenomenon. Everyone has different strengths, and no one knows yours better than you. Unless you were typically blindsided by questions you thought were easy during PTs, or you did little prep at all, your guts about the test and your prior PT performance probably track your own performance much better than our collective TLS neuroses.

TL;DR - I'm sure you did great.
Thanks for the confidence. :) Pretty much all of my uncertainty comes from LR, which is my most consistent section, so I'm sure that I did fine. I still don't know if the prep, the exam itself, or the wait after is the most agonizing part though. Probably whatever one I'm currently doing.

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Re: The Official December 2016 Waiters Group

Post by #gobroncos » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:17 pm

bearedman8 wrote: I come out of it feeling fine, but then I see that a bunch of people had trouble on questions that I thought were easy and I question whether or not I fell for a trap/misread something.
I feel this way also. For instance, I've seen a lot of mentions of the dining services question which had seemed relatively easy to me (but maybe wasn't). I'm pretty sure that teenage driving accidents had its way with me and wasn't totally sure on human condition-literature because I had a helluva time trying to diagram it out to be sure of my answer.

Anybody else laugh a little at the T-Rex question? Assuming I got the correct answer, it seemed to be pretty funny as far as LSAT answers come.

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Re: The Official December 2016 Waiters Group

Post by dontsaywhatyoumean » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:24 pm

amta wrote:
dontsaywhatyoumean wrote:Are you guys in school or working?

I had the LSAT to occupy me, and now I am not working, nor studying for anything.

I feel aimless.

I feel like a teen on summer break again
i work full-time. take up reading or something.
Lol, I read a lot. Part of why I do well on RC imo.

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Post by SunDevil14 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:25 pm

Tazewell wrote:Anyone feel confident about the cat food question? It's one of the only few that I didn't feel great about but still think I got it right.
Over analyzing each questionable LR answer after the test is almost as taxing as taking the freaking test.
My rule of thumb is if I don't remember it, I felt good about it, and I don't remember it.

I could be wrong, and I think what I stated above generally applies to most people. Hence, I don't think that many people that felt good about it really remember the question.

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Re: The Official December 2016 Waiters Group

Post by SunDevil14 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:27 pm

Pozzo wrote:
batlaw wrote:
Pozzo wrote:
SunDevil14 wrote:
Pozzo wrote:
Avs13 wrote:Looking over powerscore's real lr questions and I am almost positive that my experimental section was the first section of test... LR 1.. anyone else getting that?

I had Lr-Rc-Lr-lg-lr
Same section order, but I'm pretty sure the experimental was LR2 for me.
Same order. I do not remember the question distribution. If there was two sections of 25 questions, then one of those is very likely the experimental. Likewise, if there were two sections of 26 then one of those is likely the experimental.

What are you guys basing you guesses on?
I remember some specific questions and the section they were in. Used the Powerscore Forum to see which was real.
I had the same format and am guessing my LR2 (S3 overall) was the experimental, mainly due to the volume of disagree and 2 person questions in it. Both LR1 and LR2 were 25 questions for me.
I remember one question from that section (I think) that flipped a typical question structure on its head. Am I imagining things? Or do you remember something like that?
Same format. If I had to guess I'd say S3, though that guess is more conjecture than it is certainty.

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Re: The Official December 2016 Waiters Group

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#gobroncos wrote:
bearedman8 wrote: I come out of it feeling fine, but then I see that a bunch of people had trouble on questions that I thought were easy and I question whether or not I fell for a trap/misread something.
I feel this way also. For instance, I've seen a lot of mentions of the dining services question which had seemed relatively easy to me (but maybe wasn't). I'm pretty sure that teenage driving accidents had its way with me and wasn't totally sure on human condition-literature because I had a helluva time trying to diagram it out to be sure of my answer.

Anybody else laugh a little at the T-Rex question? Assuming I got the correct answer, it seemed to be pretty funny as far as LSAT answers come.
Thought dining services was pretty easy too. But yeah, human condition-lit was a tough one, but I'm pretty sure I got the right answer. When I got to T-Rex, I thought, "No way it's this easy." Gave me some serious pause.

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dontsaywhatyoumean wrote:Are you guys in school or working?

I had the LSAT to occupy me, and now I am not working, nor studying for anything.

I feel aimless.

I feel like a teen on summer break again
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Shakawkaw wrote:
dontsaywhatyoumean wrote:Are you guys in school or working?

I had the LSAT to occupy me, and now I am not working, nor studying for anything.

I feel aimless.

I feel like a teen on summer break again
Get a job.
Can't right now, but will be soon.

I have a few weeks before that though.

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Post by bearedman8 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:30 pm

#gobroncos wrote:
bearedman8 wrote: I come out of it feeling fine, but then I see that a bunch of people had trouble on questions that I thought were easy and I question whether or not I fell for a trap/misread something.
I feel this way also. For instance, I've seen a lot of mentions of the dining services question which had seemed relatively easy to me (but maybe wasn't). I'm pretty sure that teenage driving accidents had its way with me and wasn't totally sure on human condition-literature because I had a helluva time trying to diagram it out to be sure of my answer.

Anybody else laugh a little at the T-Rex question? Assuming I got the correct answer, it seemed to be pretty funny as far as LSAT answers come.
I felt like dining services had some appealing answer choices, but I'm pretty sure I got the correct one. I feel good about teenage driving, but pretty much everyone on /r/lsat seems to agree on something else so idk. I don't remember the human condition question at all. :(

I liked the t-rex question, but my favorite was the iguanas on rafts. I enjoyed the picture of a bunch of cute little iguanas floating across the ocean on rafts.

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Re: The Official December 2016 Waiters Group

Post by Shakawkaw » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:30 pm

dontsaywhatyoumean wrote:
Shakawkaw wrote:
dontsaywhatyoumean wrote:Are you guys in school or working?

I had the LSAT to occupy me, and now I am not working, nor studying for anything.

I feel aimless.

I feel like a teen on summer break again
Get a job.
Can't right now, but will be soon.

I have a few weeks before that though.
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