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get a little sauced.
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spark up.
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apply to law school.
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Post by ngogirl12 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:10 pm

SweetTort wrote:With the recent LSAT spike, I've decided to write a Why Chicago and gun for a Ruby.
Have you started writing your essays yet? I'm thinking of working on my PS this weekend *fingers crossed*

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Post by ngogirl12 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:14 pm

So I spent almost all of the day (PST here) reviewing MBT questions, I forgot how much time is invested in in depth review. Sigh. I have two more questions before I can move onto something new in my prep.

If anyone can help me out with this question I posted here: http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... 6&t=266425 I would be REALLY grateful..

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Post by Ques » Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:24 pm

consistently getting 173-174 on my PTs, usually

-1-3 in LR
-0-4 in LG
-1-3 in RC

frustratingly sometimes i go -0 on LG, and sometimes i completely run out of time and miss the last few questions. and likewise, i'm sometimes able to go -1 in RC, and then sometimes i'll get a -4 if i get a dense passage. i think i'm going to stop prepping LR for now, and just take LG and RC sections for the next few weeks. i'm thinking high 170s are doable at this point, since i've been studying for only three weeks at this point

need to start work on my PS this week, sounds far more difficult than any PT

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Post by 20170322 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:42 pm

ngogirl12 wrote:
SweetTort wrote:With the recent LSAT spike, I've decided to write a Why Chicago and gun for a Ruby.
Have you started writing your essays yet? I'm thinking of working on my PS this weekend *fingers crossed*

Yeah, I've finished my PS, Yale 250, and 2 "Why X's". If I write it, Chicago will probably be my last additional essay.

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Post by PhiladelphiaCollins » Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:47 pm

Just got got humbled by some grouping games after not touching them for a week, and I was just thinking that I had my games down pat...fuck

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Post by 34iplaw » Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:11 pm

Honestly, getting really irritated with Testmasters. My account just got locked, as I, apparently, read their 2-3 sentence explanations of some drill answers too fast. Now, I have to send an e-mail explaining myself?

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Post by Mikey » Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:25 pm

SweetTort wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:
SweetTort wrote:With the recent LSAT spike, I've decided to write a Why Chicago and gun for a Ruby.
Have you started writing your essays yet? I'm thinking of working on my PS this weekend *fingers crossed*

Yeah, I've finished my PS, Yale 250, and 2 "Why X's". If I write it, Chicago will probably be my last additional essay.
How long did it take you to come up with your PS idea, go through drafts, and finalize it?

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Post by Deardevil » Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:37 pm

34iplaw wrote:Honestly, getting really irritated with Testmasters. My account just got locked, as I, apparently, read their 2-3 sentence explanations of some drill answers too fast. Now, I have to send an e-mail explaining myself?

Better yet, I can't access literally anything.
Seems legit... :x

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Post by PhiladelphiaCollins » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:37 pm

I know you're supposed to do it this way, but how many of you B.R. your tests before scoring it? Previously I've just scored after writing it (not looking at what I got wrong) and then reviewing it. Idk can it really make that much of a difference if I know my score before thoroughly going through what I'm unsure of?

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Post by Barack O'Drama » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:49 pm

proteinshake wrote:just finished reviewing PT 52.

Score 177

LR -0
LG -0
LR -3
RC -1 (missed the first question LOL)

literally so happy right now. I used to hate RC but I actually enjoy it now and make myself find interest in the passage. reading solely for structure and strictly following the Trainer's advice has helped immensely. I force myself to read at a speed that will allow me to finish the passage in under 3 minutes and only going into great detail if a question references a specific detail/part of the passage. I thought the first LR and LG sections were pretty easy.
Congrats are in order. Good job Proteinshake! :D
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Post by Alexandros » Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:19 am

PhiladelphiaCollins wrote:I know you're supposed to do it this way, but how many of you B.R. your tests before scoring it? Previously I've just scored after writing it (not looking at what I got wrong) and then reviewing it. Idk can it really make that much of a difference if I know my score before thoroughly going through what I'm unsure of?
I haven't ever... Don't have the patience. I BR'd an LR section once and that was enough for me.

Probably really bad of me. I'm sure there's some value in the torture that is BR.

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Post by Alexandros » Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:24 am

Lol this was not the productive RC day I was hoping for. Only got two done, but I figure when you start blacking out during the music store game, it's time to stop. Going to do some serious RC drilling tomorrow morning to make up for it.

On a bright note - -0 on the LG sections from 29-31, each with at least 10 min to spare. I know these games way too damn well tbh.
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Post by Alexandros » Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:30 am

TheMikey wrote:
Alexandros wrote:Match the Reasoning. Gughhghg. 15/18. D': Definitely need to revisit these.

Going to go for a jog then hit RC and LG (finally). I'll save the last few MTR for tomorrow.
A little tip that helped me with those (and Parallel flaw as well), is after reading the stim, start eliminating answer choices based on their conclusions. If the stim says all people, but an A/C says some people, then you know what to do ;) There are some really tough questions that this won't work on because they want to be douche bags and make all the conclusions sound the same in wording, but for the majority you should find this somewhat useful! At least I do :)
Thanks Mikey! :D Yeah little differences in wording make an enormous difference. Have a systematic approach like that should def speed up the process!

Although I swear for some of these I just wanna be like... @LSAC thanks, but I respectfully disagree. The answer is C, dammit. :P

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Post by proteinshake » Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:44 am

PhiladelphiaCollins wrote:I know you're supposed to do it this way, but how many of you B.R. your tests before scoring it? Previously I've just scored after writing it (not looking at what I got wrong) and then reviewing it. Idk can it really make that much of a difference if I know my score before thoroughly going through what I'm unsure of?
If you see your score and see you went -1 or -2 on a section, are you really gonna put much effort into reviewing it? probably not. I'd assume there are some psychological forces to keep your from throughly reviewing if you look at the score first.

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Post by 34iplaw » Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:11 am

Started to type up a packet of questions I've missed. I'm kind of tempted to just make it in excel so that I can have something that pulls up a random question that I missed in the past...

Sort of wish that Testmasters prep had something like that... it could randomly pull a question that you missed from a diagnostic type deal.

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Post by ngogirl12 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:34 am

So, I legit just finished the MLSAT RC Guide. The last chapter was just a RC set from PT 40 and a short recap on strategies. I went -5 out of 27 questions which I was actually ok with because it was my first timed RC section. The first two passages I went perfect score on, the third I missed two (one I changed the right answer to the wrong answer :roll: ), and the fourth I messed up on one of those analogy questions.

Overall I'm happy because it's a small number to start with which means I have enough time to improve my accuracy. My plan is to do RC untimed until I feel comfortable with the passages, and then make RC packets to do timed like SweetTort mentioned (thanks for the idea!)

Oh and it feels really good to have FINALLY finished the guide, I highly recommend it. I went from hating RC and having each passage be a hit or miss to slowly learning how to approach different passage types and integrating it in my mental RC arsenal.

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Post by 20170322 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:03 am

TheMikey wrote:
SweetTort wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:
SweetTort wrote:With the recent LSAT spike, I've decided to write a Why Chicago and gun for a Ruby.
Have you started writing your essays yet? I'm thinking of working on my PS this weekend *fingers crossed*

Yeah, I've finished my PS, Yale 250, and 2 "Why X's". If I write it, Chicago will probably be my last additional essay.
How long did it take you to come up with your PS idea, go through drafts, and finalize it?

A couple days. But it might be complete shit, so who knows?

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Post by Mikey » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:01 am

SweetTort wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
SweetTort wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:
SweetTort wrote:With the recent LSAT spike, I've decided to write a Why Chicago and gun for a Ruby.
Have you started writing your essays yet? I'm thinking of working on my PS this weekend *fingers crossed*

Yeah, I've finished my PS, Yale 250, and 2 "Why X's". If I write it, Chicago will probably be my last additional essay.
How long did it take you to come up with your PS idea, go through drafts, and finalize it?

A couple days. But it might be complete shit, so who knows?
Oh haha. I have brain stormed about what to write for mine but I still haven't written a word down.

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Post by Mikey » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:45 am

*takes a deep breathe*

RC.. here i come.. *twitches*

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Post by proteinshake » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:46 am

TheMikey wrote:*takes a deep breathe*

RC.. here i come.. *twitches*
a lot of this is psychological, so you have to go in KNOWING you'll improve!

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Post by Mikey » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:48 am

proteinshake wrote:
TheMikey wrote:*takes a deep breathe*

RC.. here i come.. *twitches*
a lot of this is psychological, so you have to go in KNOWING you'll improve!
Thanks.. I know that with time I (anyone) can improve, I just don't want to feel like I'm back at square one with this test. But I gotta do it, sooo rip lol

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Post by Alexandros » Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:12 am

This week I'm going to make a goal of -
1. Actually buying (and practicing with) HB pencils! (yours truly is still using mechanical :oops: )
2. Researching and buying an analogue watch.

Once I finish MLR I'm going to start photocopying sets of the hardest questions, and go back to the beginning and go through it agaaain since I didn't do drilling for the first few chapters. Practice makes perfect. I'm gonna have to see improvements sometime.

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Post by 34iplaw » Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:12 am

I need to be more just OK with admitting that simple games are intended to be easy or build some confidence with that... like...

I had some game I was struggling with, and I see all these hypos I was trying to draw...and they just aren't even close to necessary. Just a simple one rule to be contradicted, and I kind of knew that was the important rule going in [at least one or both rule in a game with 6 slots]...

Anyone ever use numerical distributions as a base? I used the numerical distributions as a base for the December 1992 game with five students. I'm not sure if that was just a unique situation, but the game became so much easier when I changed my board to just...
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Pv -> PHRv

3 S/P H R

2 P/S L [m/t]

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Have yet to watch the 7sage on how they do it.

Account still not restored yet. I'm a bit more than annoyed right now.

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Post by Alexandros » Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:24 am

34iplaw wrote:I need to be more just OK with admitting that simple games are intended to be easy or build some confidence with that... like...

I had some game I was struggling with, and I see all these hypos I was trying to draw...and they just aren't even close to necessary. Just a simple one rule to be contradicted, and I kind of knew that was the important rule going in [at least one or both rule in a game with 6 slots]...

Anyone ever use numerical distributions as a base? I used the numerical distributions as a base for the December 1992 game with five students. I'm not sure if that was just a unique situation, but the game became so much easier when I changed my board to just...
[+] Spoiler
Pv -> PHRv

3 S/P H R

2 P/S L [m/t]

0
Have yet to watch the 7sage on how they do it.

Account still not restored yet. I'm a bit more than annoyed right now.
Numerical distribution inferences or board splitting at the beginning are one of those inferences I often forget that tend to be extremely useful. I've almost certainly done it but I can't recall the Dec 1992 game you're referring to off the top of my head (there are so many games with students :lol: ) but I'm pretty sure using a numerical distribution as a base is something you'll find useful elsewhere.

I hope you can get your account worked out soon. That's really crappy.

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Post by 34iplaw » Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:35 am

Alexandros wrote:
34iplaw wrote:I need to be more just OK with admitting that simple games are intended to be easy or build some confidence with that... like...

I had some game I was struggling with, and I see all these hypos I was trying to draw...and they just aren't even close to necessary. Just a simple one rule to be contradicted, and I kind of knew that was the important rule going in [at least one or both rule in a game with 6 slots]...

Anyone ever use numerical distributions as a base? I used the numerical distributions as a base for the December 1992 game with five students. I'm not sure if that was just a unique situation, but the game became so much easier when I changed my board to just...
[+] Spoiler
Pv -> PHRv

3 S/P H R

2 P/S L [m/t]

0
Have yet to watch the 7sage on how they do it.

Account still not restored yet. I'm a bit more than annoyed right now.
Numerical distribution inferences or board splitting at the beginning are one of those inferences I often forget that tend to be extremely useful. I've almost certainly done it but I can't recall the Dec 1992 game you're referring to off the top of my head (there are so many games with students :lol: ) but I'm pretty sure using a numerical distribution as a base is something you'll find useful elsewhere.

I hope you can get your account worked out soon. That's really crappy.
It's the Montreal, Vancouver, Toronto one. Yeah it's a bit annoying... I'm trying to get caught up from last weekend and it makes it challenging to say the least.

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