The Official October Waiter's Oasis Forum

alpha kenny body · Post by **alpha kenny body** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:10 am

ffamran wrote:My favorite president is Polk. Wish he were an option..

The greatest expansionist of US history. All you west coasters need to show thanks for James K. Polk.

SirArthurDayne · Post by **SirArthurDayne** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:00 am

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GreatBraffsby · Post by **GreatBraffsby** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:19 am

FDR finally in first place like he deserves. The history of the supreme court in his era is really fascinating. A lot of justices with big personalities and influential legal philosophies. There's a book on them called "Scorpions" that I recommend.

To be honest, I wonder how Clinton would be faring in this poll. I think most of us were raised in the Clinton boom years (although some argue they are just an after effect of Reagonomics)

alpha kenny body · Post by **alpha kenny body** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:34 am

GreatBraffsby wrote:FDR finally in first place like he deserves.

One could argue that FDR was responsible, through his New Deal policies, in using the Social Security and Welfare system to essentially guarantee the black vote would change from Republican to Democratic, while essentially keep many blacks in poverty. WEB DuBois was the chief instigator during the Harlem Renaissance for this political move because of these policies, at the behest of FDR and the Academics that bolstered his career.

GreatBraffsby · Post by **GreatBraffsby** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:10 pm

fips tedora wrote:
GreatBraffsby wrote:FDR finally in first place like he deserves.
One could argue that FDR was responsible, through his New Deal policies, in using the Social Security and Welfare system to essentially guarantee the black vote would change from Republican to Democratic, while essentially keep many blacks in poverty. WEB DuBois was the chief instigator during the Harlem Renaissance for this political move because of these policies, at the behest of FDR and the Academics that bolstered his career.

If the poll was which president is best from the perspective of racial politics, FDR wouldn't be a good choice. Even from the perspective of const Fdr overcame the two greatest existential threats to the union in WWII and the Great Depression, while establishing a radically progressive society with minimum wage, safety nets for those who need them, financial and banking oversight and, most importantly, a renewed confidence in post-crash America.

Sera Numquam · Post by **Sera Numquam** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:13 pm

chicharon wrote:
204Wpg wrote:I might be in the minority here, but my undergrad was in business and I had to read very few books during my degree (accounting and tax textbooks aside lol)
+1

I've barely taken business classes...but instead I've read the Communist Manifesto three times for different classes so that's a suitable substitution... Not

nlee10 · Post by **nlee10** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:19 pm

chicharon wrote:
204Wpg wrote:I might be in the minority here, but my undergrad was in business and I had to read very few books during my degree (accounting and tax textbooks aside lol)
+1

In the same boat.

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:20 pm

Wait, did TLS have a board game night without me?? Lol

Also, realistically, did Kennedy actually do anything besides get shot? I feel like if he had lived he'd be on the same level as Jimmy Carter.

The Abyss · Post by **The Abyss** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:29 pm

RZ5646 wrote:Wait, did TLS have a board game night without me?? Lol

Also, realistically, did Kennedy actually do anything besides get shot? I feel like if he had lived he'd be on the same level as Jimmy Carter.

He fueled the massive expansion of the space program and handled one the most tense situations in the history of the United States. Not much, and Bay of Pigs is a pretty big black mark, but he didn't exactly have a lot of time in office either.

nlee10 · Post by **nlee10** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:29 pm

RZ5646 wrote:Wait, did TLS have a board game night without me?? Lol

Also, realistically, did Kennedy actually do anything besides get shot? I feel like if he had lived he'd be on the same level as Jimmy Carter.

Not get our parents/grandparents killed by the Soviets.

scooped.

Mint-Berry_Crunch · Post by **Mint-Berry_Crunch** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:30 pm

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galeatus · Post by **galeatus** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:30 pm

Noooooooooooo

The weekend is almost over

nlee10 · Post by **nlee10** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:59 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
nlee10 wrote:
chicharon wrote:
204Wpg wrote:I might be in the minority here, but my undergrad was in business and I had to read very few books during my degree (accounting and tax textbooks aside lol)
+1
In the same boat.
Same. Had to read some interesting case studies, but even my non-major classes assigned dull readings.

Always thought I was at a disadvantage since I don't nearly have the extensive reading background.

TheProdigal · Post by **TheProdigal** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 1:03 pm

The Abyss wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:Wait, did TLS have a board game night without me?? Lol

Also, realistically, did Kennedy actually do anything besides get shot? I feel like if he had lived he'd be on the same level as Jimmy Carter.
He fueled the massive expansion of the space program and handled one the most tense situations in the history of the United States. Not much, and Bay of Pigs is a pretty big black mark, but he didn't exactly have a lot of time in office either.

His death allowed Johnson to push through a lot, and some might argue far beyond, Kennedy's own agenda. In terms of "progress," his assassination was almost certainly a net positive.

galeatus · Post by **galeatus** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 1:05 pm

nlee10 wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
nlee10 wrote:
chicharon wrote:
204Wpg wrote:I might be in the minority here, but my undergrad was in business and I had to read very few books during my degree (accounting and tax textbooks aside lol)
+1
In the same boat.
Same. Had to read some interesting case studies, but even my non-major classes assigned dull readings.
Always thought I was at a disadvantage since I don't nearly have the extensive reading background.

As an engineering student, I have no reading whatsoever while having not much time to read anyway, and I really feel that I'm missing out on lots of interesting thoughts and perspectives that people of my age should be exposed to via reading.

LurkSoHard · Post by **LurkSoHard** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 1:31 pm

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RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 1:43 pm

galeatus wrote:
As an engineering student, I have no reading whatsoever while having not much time to read anyway, and I really feel that I'm missing out on lots of interesting thoughts and perspectives that people of my age should be exposed to via reading.

But on the bright side, you could actually get a job after college

ffamran · Post by **ffamran** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 1:54 pm

galeatus wrote:
nlee10 wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
nlee10 wrote:
chicharon wrote:
204Wpg wrote:I might be in the minority here, but my undergrad was in business and I had to read very few books during my degree (accounting and tax textbooks aside lol)
+1
In the same boat.
Same. Had to read some interesting case studies, but even my non-major classes assigned dull readings.
Always thought I was at a disadvantage since I don't nearly have the extensive reading background.
As an engineering student, I have no reading whatsoever while having not much time to read anyway, and I really feel that I'm missing out on lots of interesting thoughts and perspectives that people of my age should be exposed to via reading.

I was a math major who dabbled in some introductory philosophy courses, I honestly don't feel like I gained much from those even though I read some standard philosophy texts

texasrangersjb · Post by **texasrangersjb** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 2:05 pm

Nagster5 wrote:
texasrangersjb wrote: Not trying to be confrontational, but what T14 does a 2.7 not preclude you from?
With a high enough LSAT and a few other good factors NW and GULC, and maybe one or two others.

Ok cool, I have a lower GPA as well so good to know.

seashell.economy · Post by **seashell.economy** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 2:13 pm

texasrangersjb wrote:
fips tedora wrote:
seashell.economy wrote:It's driving me crazy not knowing the setup/solution to Game 3. Not trying to seek any answers here! So don't give me any. Just saying that it's driving me crazy. As soon as the text is released, that is the first thing I am looking at...
The key is making separate worlds that represent where K can go on either 2 or 5, AM/PM, and the two LL's/two GG's
dont forget the HJ and G /= L

Oh yes, I remembered all of that, but even then, I felt like there were 500 possible diagrams I could set up! Not just, like, 4 or 6. I think we only have about two more weeks of waiting...I will survive.

JohnBum · Post by **JohnBum** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 2:21 pm

Saving the Union, Emancipating the slaves (even if for solely political reasons), and being one of the most articulate presidents in US history makes Lincoln my pick. Easily the greatest American statesman.

Sera Numquam · Post by **Sera Numquam** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 2:41 pm

RZ5646 wrote:Wait, did TLS have a board game night without me?? Lol

Also, realistically, did Kennedy actually do anything besides get shot? I feel like if he had lived he'd be on the same level as Jimmy Carter.

Cars Against Humanity. Definitely gonna happen again though.

sollos · Post by **sollos** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 2:43 pm

The Abyss wrote:What is the top 5 works/writings you all read in undergrad, fiction or nonfiction?

I'll cheat by also including three items I read in graduate school.

1. Being For, Mark Schroeder (Best piece of contemporary philosophy I've read)
2. The Iliad (Read a couple of translations, dabbled in the Greek, read some Homeric scholarship -- the best piece of fiction I've ever read)
3. Passages from Antiquity to Feudalism, Perry Anderson (I have a fetish for particular bits of economic history and this scratched my itch well)
4. The King of Elfland's Daughter, Edward Plunkett (My favorite piece of fantasy. Plunkett's a fantastic stylist despite not being a fastidious editor)
5. Fear and Trembling, Kierkegaard (The opening bits on Abraham are sublime. I don't know how good of an orator Kierkegaard was, I believe he preached a little, but I'd love to see him preach using these opening bits)

ugg · Post by **ugg** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:09 pm

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galeatus · Post by **galeatus** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:15 pm

RZ5646 wrote:
galeatus wrote:
As an engineering student, I have no reading whatsoever while having not much time to read anyway, and I really feel that I'm missing out on lots of interesting thoughts and perspectives that people of my age should be exposed to via reading.
But on the bright side, you could actually get a job after college

Touché.