The Official September 2014 Study Group Forum

[bound]

the test is single sided right? Why wouldnt you simulate that, even if its as minor as wasting more paper.

It's not single sided.

[bound]

Also guys, I'm about to let you know of the absolute best way, and most affordable (at least for me, lol). I know I've said it before, but I went on Cambridge and ordered the "Most difficult" for all 3 sections. I've literally increased my score 7 points since I've been doing them.

I time myself 8 minutes for each hard passage and 10 minutes for each hard game. I started out at about 2 minutes for each LR and have worked my way down to 12 minutes for 8 questions.

After every game, I go to 7sage and see his diagram. After every passage/set of LR, I go to the manhattan forums. It has helped me SO much, and its so cheap to order those things. I've spent so much money on prep, but I can easily say that nothing has benefited me more than this. Only 40 days left guys. Order them today, and spend 2 weeks on them. Then start Pt'ing again. You'll see. When you do these difficult ones, they make the PT's look like freakin cake.

Literally like a 40 or 50 dollar investment. I dont work for Cambridge guys... this is completely unbiased haha

Nice! Haven't utilized the hardest sections yet.

[ilikebaseball]

Also guys, I'm about to let you know of the absolute best way, and most affordable (at least for me, lol). I know I've said it before, but I went on Cambridge and ordered the "Most difficult" for all 3 sections. I've literally increased my score 7 points since I've been doing them.

I time myself 8 minutes for each hard passage and 10 minutes for each hard game. I started out at about 2 minutes for each LR and have worked my way down to 12 minutes for 8 questions.

After every game, I go to 7sage and see his diagram. After every passage/set of LR, I go to the manhattan forums. It has helped me SO much, and its so cheap to order those things. I've spent so much money on prep, but I can easily say that nothing has benefited me more than this. Only 40 days left guys. Order them today, and spend 2 weeks on them. Then start Pt'ing again. You'll see. When you do these difficult ones, they make the PT's look like freakin cake.

Literally like a 40 or 50 dollar investment. I dont work for Cambridge guys... this is completely unbiased haha

Nice! Haven't utilized the hardest sections yet.

Its crazy how much its helped me, especially on RC. I lose focus so easily on RC, especially with the complex passages. But when I went back to PT'ing, the passages were SO easy after seeing several difficult ones in a row.

[mmorrell94]

Just went 170 on PT 56, which I'm very unhappy with after seeing I went -5 in RC, 4 of which were in the last French equal education passage. I honestly didn't think the passage itself was hard at all, the questions just wrecked me.

[Colonel_funkadunk]

I just did the Dino game for the first time and damn was it time consuming.

[NotASpecialSnowflake]

My last two PTs I've gone 171 and 174. I did the 174 one with a pounding headache and by the end I was just selecting the answer that I thought fit best. I fully expected to get a 160ish score. I do better than the time I tried. Huh.

But I did go -5 on LG. I've found that if I'm not especially aggressive in the LG portion and I relax for even a game, I end up in a serious time crunch. I went -0 on my first section ever, so that's cool. -2 on LR2 and RC is pretty good too. If I went -1 on LG like I normally do, this could have been a much better score.

I really just want to get this over with. I feel as ready as I can be.

EDIT: I'm going to start cutting down my section times to 33 minutes, then to 30. I did this my second take and it was a good indicator of my score come test day.

[ilikebaseball]

My last two PTs I've gone 171 and 174. I did the 174 one with a pounding headache and by the end I was just selecting the answer that I thought fit best. I fully expected to get a 160ish score. I do better than the time I tried. Huh.

But I did go -5 on LG. I've found that if I'm not especially aggressive in the LG portion and I relax for even a game, I end up in a serious time crunch. I went -0 on my first section ever, so that's cool. -2 on LR2 and RC is pretty good too. If I went -1 on LG like I normally do, this could have been a much better score.

I really just want to get this over with. I feel as ready as I can be.

haha must be nice

[NotASpecialSnowflake]

My last two PTs I've gone 171 and 174. I did the 174 one with a pounding headache and by the end I was just selecting the answer that I thought fit best. I fully expected to get a 160ish score. I do better than the time I tried. Huh.

But I did go -5 on LG. I've found that if I'm not especially aggressive in the LG portion and I relax for even a game, I end up in a serious time crunch. I went -0 on my first section ever, so that's cool. -2 on LR2 and RC is pretty good too. If I went -1 on LG like I normally do, this could have been a much better score.

I really just want to get this over with. I feel as ready as I can be.

haha must be nice

The thing is, this will be my third try. I've done this for a year and a half now. If I've spend this much time on the LSAT, I'd better be getting 170s lol

[BJS]

My last two PTs I've gone 171 and 174. I did the 174 one with a pounding headache and by the end I was just selecting the answer that I thought fit best. I fully expected to get a 160ish score. I do better than the time I tried. Huh.

But I did go -5 on LG. I've found that if I'm not especially aggressive in the LG portion and I relax for even a game, I end up in a serious time crunch. I went -0 on my first section ever, so that's cool. -2 on LR2 and RC is pretty good too. If I went -1 on LG like I normally do, this could have been a much better score.

I really just want to get this over with. I feel as ready as I can be.

haha must be nice

The thing is, this will be my third try. I've done this for a year and a half now. If I've spend this much time on the LSAT, I'd better be getting 170s lol

Ugh I'm in the same boat. I bought my first LSAT prep book (Powerscore LG Bible) in June 2012, though I stopped studying after a month and wait until the Fall 2013 LSAT. Bombed that. Spent way too much time preparing my applications and didn't submit them until February. Started studying again back in late May. People ask me what I do in my free time, and I can't think of anything besides the LSAT and law school admissions anymore.

[NotASpecialSnowflake]

My last two PTs I've gone 171 and 174. I did the 174 one with a pounding headache and by the end I was just selecting the answer that I thought fit best. I fully expected to get a 160ish score. I do better than the time I tried. Huh.

But I did go -5 on LG. I've found that if I'm not especially aggressive in the LG portion and I relax for even a game, I end up in a serious time crunch. I went -0 on my first section ever, so that's cool. -2 on LR2 and RC is pretty good too. If I went -1 on LG like I normally do, this could have been a much better score.

I really just want to get this over with. I feel as ready as I can be.

haha must be nice

The thing is, this will be my third try. I've done this for a year and a half now. If I've spend this much time on the LSAT, I'd better be getting 170s lol

Ugh I'm in the same boat. I bought my first LSAT prep book (Powerscore LG Bible) in June 2012, though I stopped studying after a month and wait until the Fall 2013 LSAT. Bombed that. Spent way too much time preparing my applications and didn't submit them until February. Started studying again back in late May. People ask me what I do in my free time, and I can't think of anything besides the LSAT and law school admissions anymore.

Yep. Doing well on the LSATs and going to law school is the only thing getting me through my soul crushing dead end job. Which I'm going to trade for soul crushing debt in a dead end field. But at least it will be for something I love. And it is kind of sad that I see the LSATs and my good PT scores as what I have going for me.

[Gray]

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[Colonel_funkadunk]

Yep. Doing well on the LSATs and going to law school is the only thing getting me through my soul crushing dead end job. Which I'm going to trade for soul crushing debt in a dead end field. But at least it will be for something I love. And it is kind of sad that I see the LSATs and my good PT scores as what I have going for me.

I mean my job isn't even that soul crushing or dead end, but I don't want to do this for the rest of my life (or the rest of the year, TBH). the week.[/quote]

FTFY

[BJS]

Yep. Doing well on the LSATs and going to law school is the only thing getting me through my soul crushing dead end job. Which I'm going to trade for soul crushing debt in a dead end field. But at least it will be for something I love. And it is kind of sad that I see the LSATs and my good PT scores as what I have going for me.

It's not sad at all. Your PT scores (and final LSAT score!) are indicative of a level of intelligence and dedication. And the LSAT is literally your future in your hands. The right score means you won't have soul-crushing debt and you will have great opportunities, and the right score is being attained by the work we're putting in now. Seeing the dedication from you guys on TLS keeps pushing me to stop making excuses and get studying. Thank you!

[NotASpecialSnowflake]

Yep. Doing well on the LSATs and going to law school is the only thing getting me through my soul crushing dead end job. Which I'm going to trade for soul crushing debt in a dead end field. But at least it will be for something I love. And it is kind of sad that I see the LSATs and my good PT scores as what I have going for me.

It's not sad at all. Your PT scores (and final LSAT score!) are indicative of a level of intelligence and dedication. And the LSAT is literally your future in your hands. The right score means you won't have soul-crushing debt and you will have great opportunities, and the right score is being attained by the work we're putting in now. Seeing the dedication from you guys on TLS keeps pushing me to stop making excuses and get studying. Thank you!

Its just tough because I get called an idiot nearly every day at work. And every time I have to fight back the urge to say, "Well I got an LSAT score in the 90th+ percentile, so technically there is a 9/10 chance I'm smarter than you"...and then I realize how stupid and TLS-y that sounds. And that statistic probably isn't even relevant or correct mathematically.

[ilikebaseball]

Yep. Doing well on the LSATs and going to law school is the only thing getting me through my soul crushing dead end job. Which I'm going to trade for soul crushing debt in a dead end field. But at least it will be for something I love. And it is kind of sad that I see the LSATs and my good PT scores as what I have going for me.

It's not sad at all. Your PT scores (and final LSAT score!) are indicative of a level of intelligence and dedication. And the LSAT is literally your future in your hands. The right score means you won't have soul-crushing debt and you will have great opportunities, and the right score is being attained by the work we're putting in now. Seeing the dedication from you guys on TLS keeps pushing me to stop making excuses and get studying. Thank you!

Its just tough because I get called an idiot nearly every day at work. And every time I have to fight back the urge to say, "Well I got an LSAT score in the 90th+ percentile, so technically there is a 9/10 chance I'm smarter than you"...and then I realize how stupid and TLS-y that sounds.

haters gon hate. Just get into Harvard, bring a copy of your acceptance letter to work, slap it on their desk, and walk away...

[BJS]

Its just tough because I get called an idiot nearly every day at work. And every time I have to fight back the urge to say, "Well I got an LSAT score in the 90th+ percentile, so technically there is a 9/10 chance I'm smarter than you"...and then I realize how stupid and TLS-y that sounds. And that statistic probably isn't even relevant or correct mathematically.

I understand that feeling. Some days at work I feel frustrated because the work isn't intellectually stimulating and I feel unfulfilled. But I remember that I have a plan and that I am enacting the plan. All the other stuff - including coworkers like yours - are just challenges to learn from. The great thing about the LSAT - the thing that makes it so stressful - is that it is such an objective, vital part of the path to a career in law. In other words, it's a clear hurdle to overcome - we know it's there, what we need to overcome it, and what happens when we do.

[ilikebaseball]

Its just tough because I get called an idiot nearly every day at work. And every time I have to fight back the urge to say, "Well I got an LSAT score in the 90th+ percentile, so technically there is a 9/10 chance I'm smarter than you"...and then I realize how stupid and TLS-y that sounds. And that statistic probably isn't even relevant or correct mathematically.

I understand that feeling. Some days at work I feel frustrated because the work isn't intellectually stimulating and I feel unfulfilled. But I remember that I have a plan and that I am enacting the plan. All the other stuff - including coworkers like yours - are just challenges to learn from. The great thing about the LSAT - the thing that makes it so stressful - is that it is such an objective, vital part of the path to a career in law. In other words, it's a clear hurdle to overcome - we know it's there, what we need to overcome it, and what happens when we do.

cried a little

[lsat_hopefull]

Has anyone on here used any of the resources or services provided by odyssey test prep? I am getting underway with a major study effort and their rep on here has been really helpful so far. Should I go with these guys and start spending money?

[Superstaranonymous]

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[BillPackets]

Mcgrey are they talking about your brows again???

[Colonel_funkadunk]

LSAT Vince Lombardi is a legit nickname

[Gray]

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[BJS]

BJS you're like the LSAT Vince Lombardi. I definitely came here for a post-drilling unwind but after this I can only burn the midnight oil!

You are far too kind! I've struggled with motivation studying for the LSAT unlike anything before. I was always a great student: self-motivated, diligent, and dedicated to success. I think living by myself and working a full-time, white-collar job for the first time last summer hampered my dedication to the LSAT, but I really didn't have the clarity of purpose and determination until mid-June this year when I found clarity about what a particular score on the LSAT - 169, 172, 175, whatever - means for my life.

That being said, I spent a half hour tonight trying on some Banana Republic clothes that came in today and another hour ordering (far too many) more. Shopping always beats LSAT studying for me, unfortunately.

[BillPackets]

Mcgrey are they talking about your brows again???

Yeah.

Ok I gotta see the brows sometime. Maybe we should a sept test takers picwhore thread

[Colonel_funkadunk]

Sometimes when i spend too long in the lounge I forget this site is law school related, then i return to the september thread.