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What score did you get?

Mythical 180
4
4%
170-179
22
22%
160-169
45
46%
150-159
21
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140-149
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130-139
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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by A. Nony Mouse » Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:58 pm

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by DKilloranPowerScore » Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:59 pm

Li'l Sebastian wrote:DAVE KILLORAN NOTICED ME
Lol, and pretty much agreed with you too 8)

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by splitterfromhell » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:14 pm

Was there a question about highway repair and costs in addition to a question on electronic tolls?

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by tedofsandimas » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:16 pm

splitterfromhell wrote:Was there a question about highway repair and costs in addition to a question on electronic tolls?
I remember questions about both of those things.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by mm89 » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:19 pm

AbbeyS wrote:
mm89 wrote:So I need you guys to tell me to not cancel my score.
I don't see the point in cancelling a score cause it still counts as a take either way. If you're early in the process, just retake in the future. If you're going in fall & (hopefully) have some acceptances by now, what's to lose? besides you're probably being too hard on yourself
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mm89 wrote:So I need you guys to tell me to not cancel my score.
Don't cancel your score. Seriously, you probably did much better than you currently feel.
This is my third take. I'm against cancelling but after section 4 I honestly felt like I had done worse. My only concern is with getting a lower score. I'm slowly convincing myself that I am not going to score lower but I'm still unsure.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by mm89 » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:21 pm

Just scrolled through and tedofsandimas your name totally freaked me out for a second LOL

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by DKilloranPowerScore » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:26 pm

mm89 wrote:This is my third take. I'm against cancelling but after section 4 I honestly felt like I had done worse. My only concern is with getting a lower score. I'm slowly convincing myself that I am not going to score lower but I'm still unsure.

The good news is that it's not a big deal if you score a bit lower this time because law schools really only care about your high score. I wish Mike Spivey was around because he would confirm this as well, but he and I talked about it for an article I wrote a few months back: http://blog.powerscore.com/lsat/should- ... -agree-yes. That might help ease your concern just a bit. If there's a chance you might have done better, I'd keep it. The only way I wouldn't was if you knew for sure it would be lower.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by mm89 » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:32 pm

DKilloranPowerScore wrote:
mm89 wrote:This is my third take. I'm against cancelling but after section 4 I honestly felt like I had done worse. My only concern is with getting a lower score. I'm slowly convincing myself that I am not going to score lower but I'm still unsure.

The good news is that it's not a big deal if you score a bit lower this time because law schools really only care about your high score. I wish Mike Spivey was around because he would confirm this as well, but he and I talked about it for an article I wrote a few months back: http://blog.powerscore.com/lsat/should- ... -agree-yes. That might help ease your concern just a bit. If there's a chance you might have done better, I'd keep it. The only way I wouldn't was if you knew for sure it would be lower.
Let's say I was sure that I scored lower but didn't cancel. Would that make that much of a difference for admissions?

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by LuckDaw » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:37 pm

No more studying? What am I supposed to do now...? Get a life?

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by Li'l Sebastian » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:38 pm

Poll's up!

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by imDEREK » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:43 pm

I don't deserve to watch the Super Bowl!

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by decemberwaiter4ever » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:44 pm

David Killoran and I have been pm-ing. I hope he doesn't realize I am high key intoxicated.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by Li'l Sebastian » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:45 pm

decemberwaiter4ever wrote:David Killoran and I have been pm-ing. I hope he doesn't realize I am high key intoxicated.
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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by splitterfromhell » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:48 pm

decemberwaiter4ever wrote:David Killoran and I have been pm-ing. I hope he doesn't realize I am high key intoxicated.
I don't think he cares.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by DKilloranPowerScore » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:52 pm

mm89 wrote:
DKilloranPowerScore wrote:
mm89 wrote:This is my third take. I'm against cancelling but after section 4 I honestly felt like I had done worse. My only concern is with getting a lower score. I'm slowly convincing myself that I am not going to score lower but I'm still unsure.

The good news is that it's not a big deal if you score a bit lower this time because law schools really only care about your high score. I wish Mike Spivey was around because he would confirm this as well, but he and I talked about it for an article I wrote a few months back: http://blog.powerscore.com/lsat/should- ... -agree-yes. That might help ease your concern just a bit. If there's a chance you might have done better, I'd keep it. The only way I wouldn't was if you knew for sure it would be lower.
Let's say I was sure that I scored lower but didn't cancel. Would that make that much of a difference for admissions?
If you knew for sure that you had a lower score, why keep it? There's no benefit. But, let's say you thought there was a chance you might to better but came in, say, 3 points lower. It won't matter. The high score is what they use these days, and that's all they really care about.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by TexasENG » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:55 pm

So I'm being lazy does anyone know the difference between disclosed and nondisclosed. How much info do we get back on this exam?

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by DKilloranPowerScore » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:55 pm

splitterfromhell wrote:
decemberwaiter4ever wrote:David Killoran and I have been pm-ing. I hope he doesn't realize I am high key intoxicated.
I don't think he cares.
Indeed, it doesn't matter at all. In years past we used to have big post-LSAT parties where everyone indulged heavily. It was always a good time, and after the test is over the number one thing you hear people say is that they need a drink. I support that decision :)

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by jleon25 » Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:03 pm

DKilloranPowerScore wrote:
splitterfromhell wrote:
decemberwaiter4ever wrote:David Killoran and I have been pm-ing. I hope he doesn't realize I am high key intoxicated.
I don't think he cares.
Indeed, it doesn't matter at all. In years past we used to have big post-LSAT parties where everyone indulged heavily. It was always a good time, and after the test is over the number one thing you hear people say is that they need a drink. I support that decision :)
Hey Dave. I'm a powerscore student. We have talked before in that forum about applying to Duke. I have a 3.93/164 and have been accepted to Berkeley, Uva, Michigan and a few other t14. I didn't feel good about this test today. If I score 3 points lower (161), do you think it would hurt my scholarship opportunities?? I know I don't have much of a chance for merit aid regardless, so I don't want to ruin any chance of getting 45-60k at a t14 (assuming I get lucky). Thanks for your time as always. Powerscore raised my score almost 20 points!

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by DKilloranPowerScore » Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:10 pm

jleon25 wrote:
DKilloranPowerScore wrote:Hey Dave. I'm a powerscore student. We have talked before in that forum about applying to Duke. I have a 3.93/164 and have been accepted to Berkeley, Uva, Michigan and a few other t14. I didn't feel good about this test today. If I score 3 points lower (161), do you think it would hurt my scholarship opportunities?? I know I don't have much of a chance for merit aid regardless, so I don't want to ruin any chance of getting 45-60k at a t14 (assuming I get lucky). Thanks for your time as always. Powerscore raised my score almost 20 points!
Hey J, good to talk to you again! No, it won't make a difference. When you already have a score and then retake the test, they know what you are trying to do, and they don't penalize you for the attempt. Most adcomms I've talked to about it would just ignore that score and proceed off the 164. The thinking is that you achieved the 164 so you have that capability, and besides, the 164 is the score they have to report so the other score doesn't matter to them.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by tedofsandimas » Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:10 pm

mm89 wrote:Just scrolled through and tedofsandimas your name totally freaked me out for a second LOL
:D ha why?

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by jleon25 » Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:14 pm

DKilloranPowerScore wrote:
jleon25 wrote:
DKilloranPowerScore wrote:Hey Dave. I'm a powerscore student. We have talked before in that forum about applying to Duke. I have a 3.93/164 and have been accepted to Berkeley, Uva, Michigan and a few other t14. I didn't feel good about this test today. If I score 3 points lower (161), do you think it would hurt my scholarship opportunities?? I know I don't have much of a chance for merit aid regardless, so I don't want to ruin any chance of getting 45-60k at a t14 (assuming I get lucky). Thanks for your time as always. Powerscore raised my score almost 20 points!
Hey J, good to talk to you again! No, it won't make a difference. When you already have a score and then retake the test, they know what you are trying to do, and they don't penalize you for the attempt. Most adcomms I've talked to about it would just ignore that score and proceed off the 164. The thinking is that you achieved the 164 so you have that capability, and besides, the 164 is the score they have to report so the other score doesn't matter to them.
Alright, I'm going to take your advice Dave. Thanks for your help as always, and I hope life has been treating you well!

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by DKilloranPowerScore » Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:19 pm

jleon25 wrote:Alright, I'm going to take your advice Dave. Thanks for your help as always, and I hope life has been treating you well!
Thanks man! I'm good, and hopefully your day gets better now that you're done with the LSAT! And as always, if you need anything, feel free to get in touch.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by AbbeyS » Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:21 pm

This is random but why is t14 the ideal as opposed to say, t15 or t20? Why 14

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by Renegade78 » Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:22 pm

Honestly surprised everyone is saying they found LG to be easy.

I had LG experimental and was hoping that the first one was experimental. Completely destroyed the experimental. But the real one, the one about furniture, completely destroyed me.

I never do that badly on LG. I finished everything else with time to spare. But the LG section murdered me. I already cancelled my December score, and I'm considering doing it again.

But I feel like there's no point. Was aiming for a 168, but there's little chance I got that. Should I just suck it up and wait to take again in June? I feel like canceling my score twice, is just stupid.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread

Post by mm89 » Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:27 pm

Renegade78 wrote:Honestly surprised everyone is saying they found LG to be easy.

I had LG experimental and was hoping that the first one was experimental. Completely destroyed the experimental. But the real one, the one about furniture, completely destroyed me.

I never do that badly on LG. I finished everything else with time to spare. But the LG section murdered me. I already cancelled my December score, and I'm considering doing it again.

But I feel like there's no point. Was aiming for a 168, but there's little chance I got that. Should I just suck it up and wait to take again in June? I feel like canceling my score twice, is just stupid.
Feel the same. :cry:

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