real The Official December 2016 Waiters Group - Patience is a Virtue Forum

[quigleyest]

Any honest thoughts on 7sage lessons on here? I have a friend who got a 179 (retake) using the bibles , but this was a few years ago.... so anecdotally i feel like no specific resources are "required". currently have an older copy of the trainer and manhattan lr and considering 7 sage. part of me feels like having any additional resources is just like a cherry on top, but maybe I want to have any additional leg-up possible...

please excuse my careless grammar.. i've been out of school for some time

Anyone studying in NYC? feel free to pm

Big 7Sage advocate man! I'm a mentor on their site, so I may be a little biased, but I credit 7Sage with being a "come to jesus" moment for me in my LSAT prep. I started in June and spent a month and a half looking for silver bullets. I bought Powerscore, Manhattan, The LSAT Trainer (all of which I like and think are good, but still, something was missing...something wasn't clicking) Then I got 7Sage.... It all sort of began to click because I was seeing the questions reasoned out in real time by an expert who took the LSAT and went to Harvard Law (founder/instructor J.Y. Ping)

There are a few core philosophies that 7Sage uses to make mastering the LSAT achievable for almost anyone:

Blind Review for Logical Reasoning (And the entire test to be accurate, lol)
Fool Proof Method For Perfect Score on Logic Games
Memory Method For Reading Comprehension

Those things combined with a mission to make LSAT prep affordable is what makes 7Sage awesome!

Plus I am living proof it works! At least for LR and LG. I haven't begun prepping for RC yet, so I can't speak honestly on that. But on my diagnostic, I missed 20 LG questions.....Now I miss 3-4. On LR I missed 11, and now I miss 3-4 as well. I have a lot of work to do, but for being less than 2 months in, let me tell you it works!

Like I always say, if you find the free logic games videos helpful than you will love the lessons.

Sounds like you are making good progress... for some context, I previously took the lsat, and got -0 lg, -1/-3 lr, and -3 rc. The -3's haunt me a bit. Now I'm looking to come back and get the points that I left on the table last time... so I'm a little unsure how to approach my studying besides doing sections and reviewing. Which level of 7sage do you have? I am considering the Ultimate + and wondering if there is a difference between that and the lowest, which seems to just have less question sets.

Though there aren't many scorers in the range, there are definitely examples of people who have scored 175+ using just books. It's hard for me to determine right if 7sage is worth $749...

[Barack O'Drama]

Any honest thoughts on 7sage lessons on here? I have a friend who got a 179 (retake) using the bibles , but this was a few years ago.... so anecdotally i feel like no specific resources are "required". currently have an older copy of the trainer and manhattan lr and considering 7 sage. part of me feels like having any additional resources is just like a cherry on top, but maybe I want to have any additional leg-up possible...

please excuse my careless grammar.. i've been out of school for some time

Anyone studying in NYC? feel free to pm

Big 7Sage advocate man! I'm a mentor on their site, so I may be a little biased, but I credit 7Sage with being a "come to jesus" moment for me in my LSAT prep. I started in June and spent a month and a half looking for silver bullets. I bought Powerscore, Manhattan, The LSAT Trainer (all of which I like and think are good, but still, something was missing...something wasn't clicking) Then I got 7Sage.... It all sort of began to click because I was seeing the questions reasoned out in real time by an expert who took the LSAT and went to Harvard Law (founder/instructor J.Y. Ping)

There are a few core philosophies that 7Sage uses to make mastering the LSAT achievable for almost anyone:

Blind Review for Logical Reasoning (And the entire test to be accurate, lol)
Fool Proof Method For Perfect Score on Logic Games
Memory Method For Reading Comprehension

Those things combined with a mission to make LSAT prep affordable is what makes 7Sage awesome!

Plus I am living proof it works! At least for LR and LG. I haven't begun prepping for RC yet, so I can't speak honestly on that. But on my diagnostic, I missed 20 LG questions.....Now I miss 3-4. On LR I missed 11, and now I miss 3-4 as well. I have a lot of work to do, but for being less than 2 months in, let me tell you it works!

Like I always say, if you find the free logic games videos helpful than you will love the lessons.

Sounds like you are making good progress... for some context, I previously took the lsat, and got -0 lg, -1/-3 lr, and -3 rc. The -3's haunt me a bit. Now I'm looking to come back and get the points that I left on the table last time... so I'm a little unsure how to approach my studying besides doing sections and reviewing. Which level of 7sage do you have? I am considering the Ultimate + and wondering if there is a difference between that and the lowest, which seems to just have less question sets.

Though there aren't many scorers in the range, there are definitely examples of people who have scored 175+ using just books. It's hard for me to determine right if 7sage is worth $749...

I have Ultimate+ , but if you are scoring that high it is hard to say if it will be worth it... I mean, I think it is if you are REALLY trying to go for broke and max you score. The video explanations alone I think are worth that much. It is great having it reasoned and explained out in real time, rather than the explanations you read on LSAT Hacks or Manhattan that use vague language like "out of scope" .... I don't think 7Sage uses that term ever as a sole explanation as to why a question is wrong. The difference is that the Ultimate + comes with all the problem sets, the 1900+ question bank w/ explanations, and every test explanation 1-78 (or whatever is current) and some other perks. Both the $179 Starter and the Ultimate + both have the same core curriculum of lessons. The difference is going to be the tons of problem sets, (drill sets) and explanations.

Also, you could always grab the Starter set and upgrade later on if you like it. There is also a 14-day money back if you don't end up finding it helpful.... At your level, I think you could really benefit from the core curriculum more than anything.

If you are having trouble with mainly RC you might want to reach out to Sage / Tutor Nicole Hopkins who specializes in reading comp. She really knows her stuff backwards and forwards with RC. Might make more sense to get a free 30-minute consultation with her and see what she suggests since you are already scoring at a high level. Tell her Alex Divine from 7Sage sent ya

I'd also recommend The LSAT Trainer by Mike Kim. I know of several people who used the Trainer to improve their scores once they were already scoring in the 170s....

[scalawag]

Anyone know how presuppose is translated in conditional logic?

As in 'markets presuppose urban populations'

and

'The premises of the argument presuppose that everyone understands the architecture of personal computers'

[Deardevil]

Anyone know how presuppose is translated in conditional logic?

As in 'markets presuppose urban populations'

and

'The premises of the argument presuppose that everyone understands the architecture of personal computers'

I've only ever seen one question using "presupposes" for conditional logic, but the idea is simple.

For the first, it can be understood as M -> UP;
in other words, if there are markets, there are urban populations.
The idea is similar for the second.

[scalawag]

Thanks

[baileybd2]

Just wanted to introduce myself to everyone in the thread studying for the December LSAT. Had the entire summer off and studied way less than I originally intended. However, course load for this summer will be light at 12 credits with 3+ hour long break between classes plus having Fridays off so I think I'll be able to carve out some quality study time! Currently using 7sage and am quite happy with it. Any other recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

On Fridays I will interning with at a law with a friend who practices there. Among my other soft's (Interning for Governor of Va, Senator Mark Warner, and Va House of Delegates Minority Leader) would interning at a law firm prior to applying help increase my chances to school's?

Anyways, here's to long nights, caffeine fueled rage, and hoping we get the scores we want!

[Barack O'Drama]

Just wanted to introduce myself to everyone in the thread studying for the December LSAT. Had the entire summer off and studied way less than I originally intended. However, course load for this summer will be light at 12 credits with 3+ hour long break between classes plus having Fridays off so I think I'll be able to carve out some quality study time! Currently using 7sage and am quite happy with it. Any other recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

On Fridays I will interning with at a law with a friend who practices there. Among my other soft's (Interning for Governor of Va, Senator Mark Warner, and Va House of Delegates Minority Leader) would interning at a law firm prior to applying help increase my chances to school's?

Anyways, here's to long nights, caffeine fueled rage, and hoping we get the scores we want!

Welcome, Bailey!

Good luck prepping for December. I am also a fan/user of 7Sage! Otherwise, I would suggest experimenting if you can afford to. I am also a big advocate of The LSAT Trainer and The Manhattan LSAT Prep Books.

I don't think interning will help much with admissions, to be honest. I tend to think softs tend to be given too much importance sometimes, at least according to top law school consultants such as Mike Spivey. And also, remember, work experience will look good/help you when you are looking for a job during law school. Just remember that admissions is 95% a number game. Keep your GPA high and prep hard for a good LSAT and you will be set.

[scalawag]

I agree with Barak I don't think interning at a law firm will help much. Like he said it's a numbers game.

The political intern may be a good thing to get a letter of recommendation for. I did an internship for a Senate campaign and I was lucky enough to get a good letter of recommendation from my candidate.

I've thought about writing about my experiences volunteering in my personal statement. If you were making calls or just on a campaign in general I think you'll be able to draw from some observances that will hopefully be interesting, maybe even entertaining.

[mintme]

Seems like there's quite a few of us using 7 Sage! I only bought the Starter package but I really like it so far. I'm hoping having the study schedule will keep me on track.

[Destiny0921]

Hey guys! Checking in decided I was not ready for September test so moved it to December! Been studying on and off for about a year . But definitely focused now! Any suggestions on study schedules? I've read the LSAT trainer and the LR bibles I have Cambridge packets for LR and RC! Thinking of getting 7sage I've heard great things but I have been putting it off to decide if it is worth it! Any advice

[Barack O'Drama]

Hey guys! Checking in decided I was not ready for September test so moved it to December! Been studying on and off for about a year . But definitely focused now! Any suggestions on study schedules? I've read the LSAT trainer and the LR bibles I have Cambridge packets for LR and RC! Thinking of getting 7sage I've heard great things but I have been putting it off to decide if it is worth it! Any advice

Congrats! I think you made a good choice postponing and making sure you are ready for one of the most important tests you'll ever take!

The LSAT Trainer is great, I also am a fan of Manhattan Prep LSAT books....But.....


7Sage is my ultimate favorite. Once I started 7Sage I had a "come to Jesus moment" where everything began to click. Not only is the instructor JY really smart (HLS Grad and founder) He is really talented at teaching the LSAT. But more importantly, he is able to entertain you a bit while you are learning so watching the lessons aren't boring and you tend to remember what you learn when you are having fun!

I highly, highly recommend it! The good thing is there is a free 2 week trial.

As for study schedules, I think we often look for the "perfect" one. When in reality you need to find what works for you and go at a pace that you can manage. Although having some structure helps to keep you honest in your studies.... I follow the customized 7Sage schedule and then I am probably going to do The LSAT Trainer 16 Week schedule. I don't have a set LSAT date yet, though, just taking it whenever I am consistently scoring in the 170s. I'd say you should be fine just following the 7Sage schedule or The LSAT Trainer one if you decide against 7Sage.

[Walliums]

Congrats! I think you made a good choice postponing and making sure you are ready for one of the most important tests you'll ever take!

The LSAT Trainer is great, I also am a fan of Manhattan Prep LSAT books....But.....


7Sage is my ultimate favorite. Once I started 7Sage I had a "come to Jesus moment" where everything began to click. Not only is the instructor JY really smart (HLS Grad and founder) He is really talented at teaching the LSAT. But more importantly, he is able to entertain you a bit while you are learning so watching the lessons aren't boring and you tend to remember what you learn when you are having fun!

I highly, highly recommend it! The good thing is there is a free 2 week trial.

As for study schedules, I think we often look for the "perfect" one. When in reality you need to find what works for you and go at a pace that you can manage. Although having some structure helps to keep you honest in your studies.... I follow the customized 7Sage schedule and then I am probably going to do The LSAT Trainer 16 Week schedule. I don't have a set LSAT date yet, though, just taking it whenever I am consistently scoring in the 170s. I'd say you should be fine just following the 7Sage schedule or The LSAT Trainer one if you decide against 7Sage.

Hey Barack, I know you're a really big advocate of 7Sage. I'm interested in trying it out, but I'm right smack in the middle of the LSAT Trainer. I was thinking about giving 7Sage after I'm through with the Trainer (but a bit worried about wasting time on lessons with material I've already learned) - what are your thoughts?

[Barack O'Drama]

Congrats! I think you made a good choice postponing and making sure you are ready for one of the most important tests you'll ever take!

The LSAT Trainer is great, I also am a fan of Manhattan Prep LSAT books....But.....


7Sage is my ultimate favorite. Once I started 7Sage I had a "come to Jesus moment" where everything began to click. Not only is the instructor JY really smart (HLS Grad and founder) He is really talented at teaching the LSAT. But more importantly, he is able to entertain you a bit while you are learning so watching the lessons aren't boring and you tend to remember what you learn when you are having fun!

I highly, highly recommend it! The good thing is there is a free 2 week trial.

As for study schedules, I think we often look for the "perfect" one. When in reality you need to find what works for you and go at a pace that you can manage. Although having some structure helps to keep you honest in your studies.... I follow the customized 7Sage schedule and then I am probably going to do The LSAT Trainer 16 Week schedule. I don't have a set LSAT date yet, though, just taking it whenever I am consistently scoring in the 170s. I'd say you should be fine just following the 7Sage schedule or The LSAT Trainer one if you decide against 7Sage.

Hey Barack, I know you're a really big advocate of 7Sage. I'm interested in trying it out, but I'm right smack in the middle of the LSAT Trainer. I was thinking about giving 7Sage after I'm through with the Trainer (but a bit worried about wasting time on lessons with material I've already learned) - what are your thoughts?

Hey Walliums,

Definitely a big advocate, lol. But I am also an equally big advocate of The LSAT Trainer and Mike Kim's pedagogical approach to The LSAT. I would recommend that every student does both... I think The LSAT Trainer is better for flaws and seeing the test more holistically.

That said, I think you are making the right choice by finishing The LSAT Trainer first, and then considering moving on to 7Sage.

I also see what you are saying about wasting time. I sort of decided to give myself the luxury of taking as long as I need for this test, so I'm a bit biased and spoiled in regards to time. And I obviously recognize that isn't the case for everyone. Presuming you are taking in December, I would still recommend grabbing at least the starter course. My reasoning is that after having gone through the trainer myself, I had a really, really good foundation for the lsat. I could tackle pretty much anything, but I was lacking in a few key areas that I think 7Sage covers very, very well in the core curriculum. Things like lessons on conditional logic, valid/invalid argument forms, ideas of support, and logic games as a whole. Even if you think you have these concepts down, the way 7Sage teaches/implements them is a game changer imo.

Then there is just the beauty of having explanations on video and seeing things solved by JY in real time. I think 7Sage would be worth it just to have every test explanation on video!

But to really be sure not to waste time, I would say to take a diagnostic after The LSAT Trainer and see how much improvement you have made since your original diagnostic. If you are close to your goal, I would say you should forgo 7Sage and just move on to Pt'ing with Blind Review. If you are 5+ more points away, I would say do the 7Sage course. OR if you find your LG is lacking and you would like to get better, 7Sage is objectively better IMHO.

The good news is that if you get 7Sage, it is very easy to jump around the course. You can skip lessons you already have down, and pinpoint specific areas of weakness. Part of the Blind Review process that makes 7Sage so successful is that after you take a PT you BR, then watch the explanations, then re-watch the lessons of the questions you got wrong, then rinse and repeat. I think it is worth it for that alone, even if you don't watch the curriculum from the start.

Tl:DR I think you should get it, but not necessarily start the course from the beginning. There are other veru useful ways to implement 7Sage into your studies.

Hope this helps!

[Barack O'Drama]

Seems like there's quite a few of us using 7 Sage! I only bought the Starter package but I really like it so far. I'm hoping having the study schedule will keep me on track.

Nice! Join us on the forums over there sometime.... It isn't always as amusing as TLS, but I think the LSAT advice is more plentiful.

Also, the customized study schedule is great. It feels nice to have the work laid out for me and all I have to do is watch the lessons, do the problem sets, and learn....

[Walliums]

Hey Walliums,

Definitely a big advocate, lol. But I am also an equally big advocate of The LSAT Trainer and Mike Kim's pedagogical approach to The LSAT. I would recommend that every student does both... I think The LSAT Trainer is better for flaws and seeing the test more holistically.

That said, I think you are making the right choice by finishing The LSAT Trainer first, and then considering moving on to 7Sage.

I also see what you are saying about wasting time. I sort of decided to give myself the luxury of taking as long as I need for this test, so I'm a bit biased and spoiled in regards to time. And I obviously recognize that isn't the case for everyone. Presuming you are taking in December, I would still recommend grabbing at least the starter course. My reasoning is that after having gone through the trainer myself, I had a really, really good foundation for the lsat. I could tackle pretty much anything, but I was lacking in a few key areas that I think 7Sage covers very, very well in the core curriculum. Things like lessons on conditional logic, valid/invalid argument forms, ideas of support, and logic games as a whole. Even if you think you have these concepts down, the way 7Sage teaches/implements them is a game changer imo.

Then there is just the beauty of having explanations on video and seeing things solved by JY in real time. I think 7Sage would be worth it just to have every test explanation on video!

But to really be sure not to waste time, I would say to take a diagnostic after The LSAT Trainer and see how much improvement you have made since your original diagnostic. If you are close to your goal, I would say you should forgo 7Sage and just move on to Pt'ing with Blind Review. If you are 5+ more points away, I would say do the 7Sage course. OR if you find your LG is lacking and you would like to get better, 7Sage is objectively better IMHO.

The good news is that if you get 7Sage, it is very easy to jump around the course. You can skip lessons you already have down, and pinpoint specific areas of weakness. Part of the Blind Review process that makes 7Sage so successful is that after you take a PT you BR, then watch the explanations, then re-watch the lessons of the questions you got wrong, then rinse and repeat. I think it is worth it for that alone, even if you don't watch the curriculum from the start.

Tl:DR I think you should get it, but not necessarily start the course from the beginning. There are other veru useful ways to implement 7Sage into your studies.

Hope this helps!

This helps a lot, thank you!! I do love the Trainer I'm in a similar boat as you as that I'm not strict on when I have to take the LSAT by, though I know when I would prefer to take it! I'm following the Trainer's 12-week schedule right now, and it wants me to take another PT here after I've finished a few more lessons. Personally I'm hesitant just because I'm fairly new into drilling... I may just not take another PT until I'm done-done with the Trainer.

Looking forward to working with 7Sage! One more question, a bit unrelated - what's your process for drilling? Right now I've been recording how long it takes me to do each question and what I get wrong. I immediately review and for most of the questions when I see the right answer I understand why it's correct (usually I've done something dumb!) and if I really don't get it I'll try to find an explanation on Manhattan...

[Barack O'Drama]

Hey Walliums,

Definitely a big advocate, lol. But I am also an equally big advocate of The LSAT Trainer and Mike Kim's pedagogical approach to The LSAT. I would recommend that every student does both... I think The LSAT Trainer is better for flaws and seeing the test more holistically.

That said, I think you are making the right choice by finishing The LSAT Trainer first, and then considering moving on to 7Sage.

I also see what you are saying about wasting time. I sort of decided to give myself the luxury of taking as long as I need for this test, so I'm a bit biased and spoiled in regards to time. And I obviously recognize that isn't the case for everyone. Presuming you are taking in December, I would still recommend grabbing at least the starter course. My reasoning is that after having gone through the trainer myself, I had a really, really good foundation for the lsat. I could tackle pretty much anything, but I was lacking in a few key areas that I think 7Sage covers very, very well in the core curriculum. Things like lessons on conditional logic, valid/invalid argument forms, ideas of support, and logic games as a whole. Even if you think you have these concepts down, the way 7Sage teaches/implements them is a game changer imo.

Then there is just the beauty of having explanations on video and seeing things solved by JY in real time. I think 7Sage would be worth it just to have every test explanation on video!

But to really be sure not to waste time, I would say to take a diagnostic after The LSAT Trainer and see how much improvement you have made since your original diagnostic. If you are close to your goal, I would say you should forgo 7Sage and just move on to Pt'ing with Blind Review. If you are 5+ more points away, I would say do the 7Sage course. OR if you find your LG is lacking and you would like to get better, 7Sage is objectively better IMHO.

The good news is that if you get 7Sage, it is very easy to jump around the course. You can skip lessons you already have down, and pinpoint specific areas of weakness. Part of the Blind Review process that makes 7Sage so successful is that after you take a PT you BR, then watch the explanations, then re-watch the lessons of the questions you got wrong, then rinse and repeat. I think it is worth it for that alone, even if you don't watch the curriculum from the start.

Tl:DR I think you should get it, but not necessarily start the course from the beginning. There are other veru useful ways to implement 7Sage into your studies.

Hope this helps!

This helps a lot, thank you!! I do love the Trainer I'm in a similar boat as you as that I'm not strict on when I have to take the LSAT by, though I know when I would prefer to take it! I'm following the Trainer's 12-week schedule right now, and it wants me to take another PT here after I've finished a few more lessons. Personally I'm hesitant just because I'm fairly new into drilling... I may just not take another PT until I'm done-done with the Trainer.

Looking forward to working with 7Sage! One more question, a bit unrelated - what's your process for drilling? Right now I've been recording how long it takes me to do each question and what I get wrong. I immediately review and for most of the questions when I see the right answer I understand why it's correct (usually I've done something dumb!) and if I really don't get it I'll try to find an explanation on Manhattan...

Happy to help!

My drilling process is a bit different for each section and question type, but generally:

For Logical Reasoning questions I watch the 7Sage lesson, do some of the problem sets of varying difficulty. I don't strictly time myself, but I keep track of time like yourself. Then I watch the 7Sage explanations. If I feel like I still need some more practice, I will do more 7Sage problem sets, or use the Cambridge Packets to drill some more. I plan on saving most of my drilling material for when I am PT'ing though. I find that a lot of people exhaust their drill materials while learning the sections and then are left with very little when they run into problems down the road in their prep.

I will say that I feel like I was drilling too much when I first started my prep. I think it was sort of detrimental because you are never going to have 120 Sufficient Assumption questions in a row, so you are kind of wasting questions and time by drilling like 150 of them. I think doing like 25-50 of varying difficulty is a good way to go. I think The LSAT Trainer is great in that regard.

I just have 2 friends who took a Testmasters course in undergrad who were drilling like 200 questions of the same type.... I'm sure it helps, but after a certain point, you are going to experience diminishing returns. So I think what you are doing seems spot on!

For Logic games questions I use the fool proof method. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCCe82AEHmw I basically just use the Cambridge Packets 1-38 and drill all those games using this method. It has been working great!

I haven't started in earnest with RC prep yet, though. Not sure how I am going to approach drilling for RC. I'm planning on using the memory method to drill passages from PTs 1-35 and get good at the older, arguably more easy ones first. Not looking forward to it though haha!

[ruby11]

Five PTs a day? Kudos! I'd consider myself pretty "hungry," but I think your appetite is bigger than mine, lol.

I meant one single five section PT per day, as opposed to one single four section PT per day. I wanted to train my brain against fatigue as the real administration is five section.

[scalawag]

So I did a LG section two nights ago and went -13. Ouch. That's what I did on my diagnostic test.

I quit drilling Logic Games when I started doing LR so that's part of it (don't stop drilling or your skills will evaporate). I did best on the games I had most recently drilled.


I wrote out a schedule now so that I stay fresh for all materials. I'm giving myself a little more than 4 hours a day. I hear you all talk about diminishing returns, when do those kick in?

[Destiny0921]

How many days and hours are you guys studying now?

[Barack O'Drama]

How many days and hours are you guys studying now?

I study 4-5 hours a day, give or take.

I study every day with the exception of Sundays. I like to take those off and refesh. The burnout is real.

Also I should mention I am no longer taking in December so I might not be studying the same as I would if I were.

[Walliums]

I study 4-5 hours a day, give or take.

Dang, how are you putting that in? Do you work PT or FT?

I work FT and put in 1 - 3 hours on weekdays, more on the weekends. I'd like to take in December but we'll see if my pace is going to allow that. The next PT I take should be pretty telling.

[Walliums]

I've had a pretty good Sunday! From some drills in the Trainer, I went -2 on 14 LR games with pretty good time (avg. 1:40) and then I went -1 on a full LG section in almost 35 min (36:24, to be precise). I hadn't been doing as well on LR drills lately so I'm happy to see this improvement! And on PTs I wasn't having enough time to finish more than two games, (even though I was doing really well on BR) so I'm happy that I'm improving timing and will actually get the points that I know that I know how to do

[Barack O'Drama]

I study 4-5 hours a day, give or take.

Dang, how are you putting that in? Do you work PT or FT?

I work FT and put in 1 - 3 hours on weekdays, more on the weekends. I'd like to take in December but we'll see if my pace is going to allow that. The next PT I take should be pretty telling.

To be honest, it averages out to closer to 4 a day, at least most days.

I work FT, but I can usually study a bit at work. And then I study at night 7-11.

It is a lot, but taking Sundays off from work and studying help a lot!

[alpha kenny body]

Checking in this bih. I've taken the test multiple times. I advocate LSAT Trainer for LR/RC, 7Sage for LG, and blind review for LR/RC.

[NoAngel]

Took the June LSAT and didn't do as well as I'd hoped. Thought about taking the September but will not be sitting for it (obviously). Can someone let me know how bad my prospects might be, if at all, if I take the December LSAT (do well) and send in apps after the test?