The Official June 2016 Study Group Forum

[Hennessy]

Okay back on topic.

Just took PT 72.

RC (-3) LR (-7) LR (-5) LG (-1) for a scaled 168.

If any of you have taken this one recently, you know that the LG has a 4th incredibly random and weird game. I didn't understand the rules until i had answered the final question, i probably still don't fully understand the rules, but somehow I got every single one of them correct.

I am fabulous, bitches.

[lawpro82]

Okay back on topic.

Just took PT 72.

RC (-3) LR (-7) LR (-5) LG (-1) for a scaled 168.

If any of you have taken this one recently, you know that the LG has a 4th incredibly random and weird game. I didn't understand the rules until i had answered the final question, i probably still don't fully understand the rules, but somehow I got every single one of them correct.

I am fabulous, bitches.

PT 72 was a weird one. Still got -0 on LG, but had to use the entire time (34.5 min), instead of my usual 25 min game speed. Game 4 was extremely awkward and everyone should take a look at it before June 6th. There wasn't really a good setup, you just had to work through each question on its own.

I felt the LR was a bit tricky as well, but the test certainly made up for it with a pretty good curve.

[etramak]

Just took a PT with a perfect RC for the first time in my life! Rest of the sections went well too. Hopefully PT 54 isn't old enough to be considered irrelevant.

[Hennessy]

Okay back on topic.

Just took PT 72.

RC (-3) LR (-7) LR (-5) LG (-1) for a scaled 168.

If any of you have taken this one recently, you know that the LG has a 4th incredibly random and weird game. I didn't understand the rules until i had answered the final question, i probably still don't fully understand the rules, but somehow I got every single one of them correct.

I am fabulous, bitches.

PT 72 was a weird one. Still got -0 on LG, but had to use the entire time (34.5 min), instead of my usual 25 min game speed. Game 4 was extremely awkward and everyone should take a look at it before June 6th. There wasn't really a good setup, you just had to work through each question on its own.

I felt the LR was a bit tricky as well, but the test certainly made up for it with a pretty good curve.

Agreed, LR was tough, especially the first section; numerous misleading answers on inference and analyze questions.

[forum_user]

Just took a PT with a perfect RC for the first time in my life! Rest of the sections went well too. Hopefully PT 54 isn't old enough to be considered irrelevant.

Not irrelevant at all, especially for RC. What do you think made this one successful?

[ponderingmeerkat]

as long as we're shit-posting, everyone please fill out this short survey (unless you feel uncomfortable doing so):

a/s/l (___)
undergrad major (___)
current PT average (___)
type of law you hope to practice (___)
drink of choice (___)
boxers, briefs, boxer briefs, panties, boyshorts, thongs, etc. (___)

Oh shit...I step away from TLS for 5 days and we're AOL chatrooming now.

Are you from the country you're in right now? Or doing some kind of ngo thing or something?

NGO type thing. Been here 7 months, 5 left to go.

[R. Jeeves]

as long as we're shit-posting, everyone please fill out this short survey (unless you feel uncomfortable doing so):

a/s/l (___)
undergrad major (___)
current PT average (___)
type of law you hope to practice (___)
drink of choice (___)
boxers, briefs, boxer briefs, panties, boyshorts, thongs, etc. (___)

Oh shit...I step away from TLS for 5 days and we're AOL chatrooming now.

Are you from the country you're in right now? Or doing some kind of ngo thing or something?

NGO type thing. Been here 7 months, 5 left to go.

Nice. Sounds like a pretty cool experience.

[etramak]

Just took a PT with a perfect RC for the first time in my life! Rest of the sections went well too. Hopefully PT 54 isn't old enough to be considered irrelevant.

Not irrelevant at all, especially for RC. What do you think made this one successful?

Wish I could answer that adequately. It definitely helped that it didn't contain any biology/chemistry passages. I've been working on calming down and taking the passage slowly instead of being intimidated and rushing through it. Same goes for LR stimuli...still got a couple wrong for not reading in between the lines on the harder strengthening questions though.

[appind]

Just took a PT with a perfect RC for the first time in my life! Rest of the sections went well too. Hopefully PT 54 isn't old enough to be considered irrelevant.

Not irrelevant at all, especially for RC. What do you think made this one successful?

it's at or near where RC becomes tough, so not irrelevant. RC is easier in anything before 50s however.

[appind]

Oh shit...I step away from TLS for 5 days and we're AOL chatrooming now.

Are you from the country you're in right now? Or doing some kind of ngo thing or something?

NGO type thing. Been here 7 months, 5 left to go.

sounds cool.

also, this thread is only now getting close to living up to its expectation

[Hennessy]

also, this thread is only now getting close to living up to its expectation

we gotta make the 180

[forum_user]

Just took a PT with a perfect RC for the first time in my life! Rest of the sections went well too. Hopefully PT 54 isn't old enough to be considered irrelevant.

Not irrelevant at all, especially for RC. What do you think made this one successful?

Wish I could answer that adequately. It definitely helped that it didn't contain any biology/chemistry passages. I've been working on calming down and taking the passage slowly instead of being intimidated and rushing through it. Same goes for LR stimuli...still got a couple wrong for not reading in between the lines on the harder strengthening questions though.

I've found that slowing down definitely helps too. How much/little do you annotate? I recently stopped annotating whatsoever--like i literally make zero marks anywhere--and there's been a very strong correlation with how well I do.

[forum_user]

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[etramak]

Just took a PT with a perfect RC for the first time in my life! Rest of the sections went well too. Hopefully PT 54 isn't old enough to be considered irrelevant.

Not irrelevant at all, especially for RC. What do you think made this one successful?

Wish I could answer that adequately. It definitely helped that it didn't contain any biology/chemistry passages. I've been working on calming down and taking the passage slowly instead of being intimidated and rushing through it. Same goes for LR stimuli...still got a couple wrong for not reading in between the lines on the harder strengthening questions though.

I've found that slowing down definitely helps too. How much/little do you annotate? I recently stopped annotating whatsoever--like i literally make zero marks anywhere--and there's been a very strong correlation with how well I do.

I never annotate, only underline. The underlining can be kind of meaningless too. When I first started prepping 75% of the passage would be marked but now I save underlining for transition points, conclusive statements, SAT words, or really dense sentences that I have to read 3 or 4 times just to comprehend. Helps me remember where that stuff in the passage is located since you're basically reading it twice if you underline.

[proteinshake]

same here. all I do is make a little note at the end of each paragraph about what the main point was. granted I've only done one RC set because I just started studying for the September test a couple weeks ago, but I went -4 when I used to go -5-8 when I would mark up the passage a lot when I studied for my previous take. hopefully consistent drilling can get me to -3 or lower.

[Mikey]

Just took a PT with a perfect RC for the first time in my life! Rest of the sections went well too. Hopefully PT 54 isn't old enough to be considered irrelevant.

Not irrelevant at all, especially for RC. What do you think made this one successful?

Wish I could answer that adequately. It definitely helped that it didn't contain any biology/chemistry passages. I've been working on calming down and taking the passage slowly instead of being intimidated and rushing through it. Same goes for LR stimuli...still got a couple wrong for not reading in between the lines on the harder strengthening questions though.

I've found that slowing down definitely helps too. How much/little do you annotate? I recently stopped annotating whatsoever--like i literally make zero marks anywhere--and there's been a very strong correlation with how well I do.

I never annotate, only underline. The underlining can be kind of meaningless too. When I first started prepping 75% of the passage would be marked but now I save underlining for transition points, conclusive statements, SAT words, or really dense sentences that I have to read 3 or 4 times just to comprehend. Helps me remember where that stuff in the passage is located since you're basically reading it twice if you underline.

I went from doing a bunch of mark ups to just quickly underlining the name of a person. I feel like I go way faster now and keep my concentration. I don't mark anything else besides people's names and IF there's a question then I just put a Q next to it, that's about it. I try to go off of memory and I've seen a slight improvement so far which makes me happy

[forum_user]

I never annotate, only underline. The underlining can be kind of meaningless too. When I first started prepping 75% of the passage would be marked but now I save underlining for transition points, conclusive statements, SAT words, or really dense sentences that I have to read 3 or 4 times just to comprehend. Helps me remember where that stuff in the passage is located since you're basically reading it twice if you underline.

I went from doing a bunch of mark ups to just quickly underlining the name of a person. I feel like I go way faster now and keep my concentration. I don't mark anything else besides people's names and IF there's a question then I just put a Q next to it, that's about it. I try to go off of memory and I've seen a slight improvement so far which makes me happy

This, I think, was the big difference for me. Underlining, circling, boxing, and even writing little paragraph summaries only served a Harrison Bergeron-esque role, where the actions actually broke my concentration and really didn't help me in any way. Paragraph summaries also didn't help, because without the context of the rest of the passage I can't really tell how the paragraph fits into the passage as a whole.

So, my passages just look completely clean, and somehow this helps me be faster and more accurate. I really only take maybe 5 seconds to process what I just read, and then dive straight in to the questions.

My only other trick is saving the passage with the fewest questions for last. I go through everything as they're laid out, but if a passage has 5 or 6 questions out of 26/27 total, I skip it and do it later.

[Hennessy]

Agree with the last few posters. I make almost no marks at all during RC. I usually read the first paragraph, look for a shift in tone or an argument and make a backslash between the two sides, read the full passage, start the questions.

If a question relates to a specific part of the passage, I usually know where it is - I go back and quickly read through that paragraph.

It sounds time-consuming to reread a paragraph for every question, but it doesn't feel like it is. And I'm never over the 35min mark.

[Mikey]

I never annotate, only underline. The underlining can be kind of meaningless too. When I first started prepping 75% of the passage would be marked but now I save underlining for transition points, conclusive statements, SAT words, or really dense sentences that I have to read 3 or 4 times just to comprehend. Helps me remember where that stuff in the passage is located since you're basically reading it twice if you underline.

I went from doing a bunch of mark ups to just quickly underlining the name of a person. I feel like I go way faster now and keep my concentration. I don't mark anything else besides people's names and IF there's a question then I just put a Q next to it, that's about it. I try to go off of memory and I've seen a slight improvement so far which makes me happy

This, I think, was the big difference for me. Underlining, circling, boxing, and even writing little paragraph summaries only served a Harrison Bergeron-esque role, where the actions actually broke my concentration and really didn't help me in any way. Paragraph summaries also didn't help, because without the context of the rest of the passage I can't really tell how the paragraph fits into the passage as a whole.

So, my passages just look completely clean, and somehow this helps me be faster and more accurate. I really only take maybe 5 seconds to process what I just read, and then dive straight in to the questions.

My only other trick is saving the passage with the fewest questions for last. I go through everything as they're laid out, but if a passage has 5 or 6 questions out of 26/27 total, I skip it and do it later.

Yeah, I have the blueprint rc book and don't get me wrong, it's great and helped me a ton in understanding how to approach questions, as well as helping me actually break up a paragraph to understand the arguments being said. But I feel like they focus too much on tagging and too much of it at that. Using their methods did help me improve a bit but slowed me down so much that I could only complete 3 passages. So I just said screw it, tried no tagging, and it just seemed to click with me lol.

[Hennessy]

where are the shitposts you bunch of pre-legal scum

[Mikey]

where are the shitposts you bunch of pre-legal scum

shit post shit post shit post shit post shit post

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[Hennessy]

All of Arnold Schwarzenegger's movies have either been good or bad. All of those that have been bad have either had poorly fleshed-out comic relief, or were had elements of science fiction. Some of A.S.'s good movies had elements of science fiction, but all of his movies that had poorly fleshed-out comic relief and had elements of science fiction were bad. Therefore, if an Arnold movies contained weakly-executed comic relief, it must have been bad.

The pattern of flawed reasoning in the above passage is most similar to which of the following?

A. Every French restaurant is either tasty or gross. All of the gross French restaurants are so because they use expired, frozen seafood, or because their fine dining standards are low. Some of the better French restaurants still employ waiters who have not been trained in fine-dining, but if these standards are low coupled with spoiled seafood, a French restaurant cannot be considered "tasty." Thus, if your bouillabaisse at a French restaurant smells expired, the rest of the food is probably going to be gross.

B. Water can be purified or unpurified; if it is unpurified, it has either not been run through a filter, or it contains bacteria that are potentially harmful. Some purified water contains potentially harmful bacteria, but it is evident that if water has not been run through a filter and contains harmful bacteria, it has not been purified. Thus, any water that has not been run through a filter cannot be considered purified.

C. Dogs can be many breeds, but most are either pitbulls or golden retrievers. Golden retrievers are golden and they retrieve things. Pitbulls can retrieve stuff too, but only golden retrievers are golden, and only dogs that retrieve things can be golden. Therefore, golden retrievers are the only dog that can both retrieve objects and is golden.

D. I work at a boring law firm, and its either crushing my soul or I'm gonna get an ulcer before I turn 24. If my soul isn't crushed, I can get an ulcer, and even if I don't develop an ulcer, I might have a nervous breakdown, and this would be soul-crushing. All ulcers cause excessive pain and suffering, but your soul slowly dying is a pain of the mind. Therefore, I'm gonna go get some Vietnamese food.

E. Hardwood floors are either incredibly dense from the process of petrification, or they can be softened by termites and other insects. If there has been insect softening in a wooden floor, the house must either exist in a warm climate where termites thrive, or a cold climate that contains bugs that eat deciduous organic plant matter. Some houses with dense hardwood floors are in warm climates, but do not have any termites. Thus, a cold climate with deciduous plant matter consumption by insects cannot produce houses with petrified hardwood floors.