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Post by betterLawyerUP » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:47 pm

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betterLawyerUP wrote:Went to Staples to print cambridge bundles from USB and they couldnt open cause they were protected, how do I bypass this? Someone enlighten me, long day, no studying tonight
Does Staples not have the ability to do online print orders? I know Office Depot does, and I've used them to print Cambridge packets before. I like printing my PTs with them because I can get them printed in a book form (w/ saddle staple) for cheap. It beats having loose pages for a PT.

I am trying to print online right now, do u guys print out each packet fully? Printing online only allows you to print the whole PDF (i think) and I hate having to print the cover sheets, answer sheets, and blank pages. It ends up adding up and im getting broke, top ramen til June

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Post by TheWalkingDebt » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:57 pm

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TheWalkingDebt wrote:Does anyone have any insight on improving my mindset for level 4 cambridge drill questions? I seem to do pretty well on the rest and then just shit the bed come L4 time, usually hitting 50-60% instead of the normal 85-95%?
How sure of your answers are you when you pick answers on these questions? Do you think you 100% chose the right answer and then get it wrong or do you kinda sorta pick and answer that sounds right?
My certainty matches my results. I'm dead on sure about 50% of the time, the other half of the time I'm stuck between 2 or 3 answers and can't eliminate. I think maybe I need to slow down and write out WHY an answer is wrong, or at least think about it more consciously/out loud.

Think mixing drill levels up would also help? I did it on my strengthen drills today and my level 3 scores was 90+% instead of hovering between 80-85. But L4 was still just about 50%. I'm not worried yet because the test is still 3 months away, and I think my improvement shows I have the aptitude to do L4, but still feel the need to have a sense of urgency. :|

ETA By mixing up I mean not drilling all of level one, then all of level two, etc in case it wasn't clear.

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Post by JackelJ » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:18 pm

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JackelJ wrote:
TheWalkingDebt wrote:Does anyone have any insight on improving my mindset for level 4 cambridge drill questions? I seem to do pretty well on the rest and then just shit the bed come L4 time, usually hitting 50-60% instead of the normal 85-95%?
How sure of your answers are you when you pick answers on these questions? Do you think you 100% chose the right answer and then get it wrong or do you kinda sorta pick and answer that sounds right?
My certainty matches my results. I'm dead on sure about 50% of the time, the other half of the time I'm stuck between 2 or 3 answers and can't eliminate. I think maybe I need to slow down and write out WHY an answer is wrong, or at least think about it more consciously/out loud.

Think mixing drill levels up would also help? I did it on my strengthen drills today and my level 3 scores was 90+% instead of hovering between 80-85. But L4 was still just about 50%. I'm not worried yet because the test is still 3 months away, and I think my improvement shows I have the aptitude to do L4, but still feel the need to have a sense of urgency. :|

ETA By mixing up I mean not drilling all of level one, then all of level two, etc in case it wasn't clear.
Yes, you should slow down. Why are you in such a rush to just pick an answer you are unsure about? In my opinion, drilling only works when you work through the problem yourself and try to fully understand why the correct answer choice is right and why the others are wrong. Write it down, say it out loud or in your head, do whatever you need to to completely eliminate 4 and confirm 1. If one problem takes you 20 minutes to think about and reason through than that is time well spent because thats how you learn. You won't learn by guessing between 2 or 3 choices and then just looking at the right answer and justifying it to yourself that its right. You need to do the thinking yourself and have that aha moment.

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Post by ccordero » Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:27 am

I've been studying logical reasoning sections exclusively from the older tests for the past few days. Usually finish 2 LR sections in a study session from a given PT per day. After making some significant progress over the past week, improving from -12s to -5s, today I regressed and hit -9 on one LR section and -12 on the second. I was feeling pretty angry and dejected for a while, but I took a third today, to hopefully redeem myself. I scored -9 during the timed test (unfortunately), but during blind review, I changed 4 of my answers to correct ones and answered two skipped ones correctly to score -3.

I think my intuition and understanding is there, but I just keep making stupid mistakes and misreading answer choices and/or prompts. I realized I also kept trying to turn things into a causal relationship that I could diagram, but this is not so. And lastly, I still need to dramatically get better with my timing. I keep getting hung up on one question for too long.

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Post by jbrantley » Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:35 am

I'm checking in too, I suppose.

I just decided to retake for June 2015 after discovering my Feb 2015 score of 163. Had some extreme gastrointestinal issues night before and day of test in Paris, which I think contributed to me blanking on two whole games.

All this to say I think I can do much better for June if I can reach that "eureka" moment with LGs. I will be utterly content with a 170. Academically speaking, I'm pretty solid with a 3.9 with some good softs.

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Post by jbrantley » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:41 am

RZ5646 wrote:Socrates was ripped
Yes, so it seems. All that walking around interrogating others really burns the calories such that abdomens predominantly show.

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Post by Shakawkaw » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:53 am

jbrantley wrote:Anyone here a philosophy fan? Coming from a phil major.
Fellow love of wisdom major, ancient studies minor, here. Welcome!

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Post by Rigo » Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:17 pm

nlee10 wrote:95 days.
Almost at the completely arbitrary, test prep company promulgated 3 month mark.

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Post by JackelJ » Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:29 pm

Dirigo wrote:
nlee10 wrote:95 days.
Almost at the completely arbitrary, test prep company promulgated 3 month mark.
So I can keep procrastinating until the 3 month mark right?

But being serious, I should have enough time to be ready for June if I start back up again now after a significant break, right? Since I'm not starting from scratch?

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Post by nlee10 » Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:33 pm

JackelJ wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
nlee10 wrote:95 days.
Almost at the completely arbitrary, test prep company promulgated 3 month mark.
So I can keep procrastinating until the 3 month mark right?

But being serious, I should have enough time to be ready for June if I start back up again now after a significant break, right? Since I'm not starting from scratch?
I would say so as long as you efficiently use the last 90 days. I do appreciate not starting from scratch though.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by JackelJ » Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:38 pm

nlee10 wrote:
JackelJ wrote:But being serious, I should have enough time to be ready for June if I start back up again now after a significant break, right? Since I'm not starting from scratch?
I would say so as long as you efficiently use the last 90 days. I do appreciate not starting from scratch though.
I plan on it. Starting studying as well as a new diet/exercise plan today. I was probably doing 5-10 hours of LSAT a week the last few weeks, so I guess it was better than nothing?

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Post by msp8 » Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:40 pm

JackelJ wrote:
nlee10 wrote:
JackelJ wrote:But being serious, I should have enough time to be ready for June if I start back up again now after a significant break, right? Since I'm not starting from scratch?
I would say so as long as you efficiently use the last 90 days. I do appreciate not starting from scratch though.
I plan on it. Starting studying as well as a new diet/exercise plan today. I was probably doing 5-10 hours of LSAT a week the last few weeks, so I guess it was better than nothing?
I'm in a similar boat. Starting back to studying today. Really slow getting back into it, though.

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Post by TheProdigal » Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:42 pm

nlee10 wrote:
JackelJ wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
nlee10 wrote:95 days.
Almost at the completely arbitrary, test prep company promulgated 3 month mark.
So I can keep procrastinating until the 3 month mark right?

But being serious, I should have enough time to be ready for June if I start back up again now after a significant break, right? Since I'm not starting from scratch?
I would say so as long as you efficiently use the last 90 days. I do appreciate not starting from scratch though.
This 90 day business is making me feel like a complete slacker.

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the newest one?
I used 4th, but I really doubt it matters. The few extra dollars saved didn't phase me in the scheme of things.
The 4th seems to have a little more stuff in it. I like getting previous version discounts but recommend getting MLSAT 4th for RC.

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Post by jbrantley » Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:01 pm

Shakawkaw wrote:
jbrantley wrote:Anyone here a philosophy fan? Coming from a phil major.
Fellow love of wisdom major, ancient studies minor, here. Welcome!
Sweet. I tried unsuccessfully cramming in a classics minor as an undergraduate. Glad to know I'm in good company.

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JackelJ wrote:
nlee10 wrote:
JackelJ wrote:But being serious, I should have enough time to be ready for June if I start back up again now after a significant break, right? Since I'm not starting from scratch?
I would say so as long as you efficiently use the last 90 days. I do appreciate not starting from scratch though.
I plan on it. Starting studying as well as a new diet/exercise plan today. I was probably doing 5-10 hours of LSAT a week the last few weeks, so I guess it was better than nothing?

Ditto here. Just started buying fresh produce today, cut out processed foods, and am making renewed athletic efforts in hopes that they facilitate my round two of LSAT practice. Can't keep letting yourself go mentally or physically when preparing for the LSAT with the goal of achieving an exceptional score.

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how much studying does everyone do per day?

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Post by jbrantley » Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:17 pm

ccordero wrote:how much studying does everyone do per day?
I'm taking a more relaxed approach this time around. For the Feb 15 test, I was neurotically doing irregular study binges of maybe 9 hour days followed by 2 days of nothing. It definitely got me to get all the concepts and principals down, but this time I realize mental equilibrium and consistency will be the key to a breakthrough in LGs (my current Achilles' heel), as well as enhanced reading comprehension/retention in general. Anxiety has the potential to emasculate one's short term memory and attention.

Boot camp is cool for kicking one into shape, but for veritable fine-tuning and excellence, regular, temperate practice is essential.

Of course you may need to go into boot camp mode if this is your first rodeo. But as for me, I need to be kinder to my brain now.

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as much as I can (once I can convince my brain to buckle down) #fulltimeworkschedule

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Post by TheProdigal » Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:11 pm

ccordero wrote:how much studying does everyone do per day?
3hr/workday, maybe 5 or 6 on my days off.

If I start earlier for June, maybe 60 to 90 minutes daily until the last month.

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