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nlee10 · Post by **nlee10** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:06 pm

Was LG unusually easy for you guys?

mornincounselor · Post by **mornincounselor** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:07 pm

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nlee10 · Post by **nlee10** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:08 pm

Also had RC-LR-LR-LG-RC

RC was average
LR was hard for me
LG easy

Petrichor · Post by **Petrichor** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:08 pm

nlee10 wrote:Was LG unusually easy for you guys?

not particularly, i thought it was on the easier side but June's LG was easier(one of the easiest) for me, hopefully I didn't blow it this time around.

sorry4lurking · Post by **sorry4lurking** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:10 pm

The Abyss · Post by **The Abyss** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:10 pm

nlee10 wrote:Was LG unusually easy for you guys?

Yup. I had one question that I came back to on game 3. Overall, very easy.

chalky · Post by **chalky** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:11 pm

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EnderWiggin · Post by **EnderWiggin** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:11 pm

nlee10 wrote:Was LG unusually easy for you guys?

Thought it was about standard but who knows.

Part of me was hoping for a truly rare game like a circle or pattern because if you make the inference upfront they're not that bad + having them tends to correlate with a more generous curve (at least from what I've observed.

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:12 pm

nlee10 wrote:Was LG unusually easy for you guys?

Sounds like most of us struggled with game 3 but the rest was easy. The experimental LG some of us got was super easy.

Petrichor · Post by **Petrichor** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:13 pm

EnderWiggin wrote:
nlee10 wrote:Was LG unusually easy for you guys?
Thought it was about standard but who knows.

Part of me was hoping for a truly rare game like a circle or pattern because if you make the inference upfront they're not that bad + having them tends to correlate with a more generous curve (at least from what I've observed.

the june game had a pretty rare game, but i thought it was super easy. -10 curve, rather standard..

SirArthurDayne · Post by **SirArthurDayne** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:14 pm

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cub1014 · Post by **cub1014** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:15 pm

mist4bison wrote:Curve prediction should be the next poll. I don't pay attention to curves much, but I'm thinking like -8.

What's the lowest curve that a test has had?

This being my third time taking the test officially, I don't think there's any way this is a -8.

ChillTomG · Post by **ChillTomG** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:16 pm

I found LG to be much harder than that of a typical LSAT. Maybe I was missing something here, but I usually finish the LG section with 5-10 minutes to spare, both in PTs and for real in June. I finished this LG section with only two minutes to spare, then went back and realized that I missed a rules question. I would be very surprised if I missed any questions, but it felt much harder than usual.

The biggest surprise was RC. I thought it was surprisingly easy. Usually, I am seriously cramped for time and rushing during my PTs, barely finishing before the buzzer is called. The same thing happened during the June test. Here, I blew through the Schoenberg passage in 6 minutes, and finished with a few minutes to spare, without rushing. I usually miss 3 or 4 questions on RC (three on the June test). I would be very surprised if I missed more than two questions on this test. I am guessing one miss, and would not be surprised if I scored perfectly.

The LR sections were both about average I thought, neither seemed easier than the other. I didn't have as much time as I would have like to check answers on either section. I am expecting a total of -2/-3 from both sections combined.

Overall, I am predicting -3 or -4 for the test. With the worst curve in history, and a -4, that puts me at a 175, but I think that this test was overall average-hard, putting me at a 177-179. I hope my predictions are right!

mod edit: TOO MUCH INFO

The Abyss · Post by **The Abyss** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:16 pm

I'm thinking a -10 or -11 curve.

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:16 pm

Petrichor wrote:
87mm wrote:There is a string of people on the east coast who will take their LSAT in a couple weeks (due to weather). How would that impact this curve?

I hope -12 is a curve we get. The most recent LSATs have been quite difficult and unless the test is ramping up, I hope that the curve is in our favor.
it doesn't, the scale is pre-set.

And they take an old February test instead of the one we took anyway

ChillTomG · Post by **ChillTomG** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:17 pm

EnderWiggin wrote:
nlee10 wrote:Was LG unusually easy for you guys?
Thought it was about standard but who knows.

Part of me was hoping for a truly rare game like a circle or pattern because if you make the inference upfront they're not that bad + having them tends to correlate with a more generous curve (at least from what I've observed.

Not true. See June of this year, or the fish game from a few years back.

Petrichor · Post by **Petrichor** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:17 pm

cub1014 wrote:
mist4bison wrote:Curve prediction should be the next poll. I don't pay attention to curves much, but I'm thinking like -8.

What's the lowest curve that a test has had?
This being my third time taking the test officially, I don't think there's any way this is a -8.

i am guessing -11, with -13 being the max, hope the curve is closer to -14 though...

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:17 pm

ChillTomG wrote:I found LG to be much harder than that of a typical LSAT. Maybe I was missing something here, but I usually finish the LG section with 5-10 minutes to spare, both in PTs and for real in June. I finished this LG section with only two minutes to spare, then went back and realized that I missed a rules question. I would be very surprised if I missed any questions, but it felt much harder than usual.

The biggest surprise was RC. I thought it was surprisingly easy. Usually, I am seriously cramped for time and rushing during my PTs, barely finishing before the buzzer is called. The same thing happened during the June test. Here, I blew through the Schoenberg passage in 6 minutes, and finished with a few minutes to spare, without rushing. I usually miss 3 or 4 questions on RC (three on the June test). I would be very surprised if I missed more than two questions on this test. I am guessing one miss, and would not be surprised if I scored perfectly.

The LR sections were both about average I thought, neither seemed easier than the other. I didn't have as much time as I would have like to check answers on either section. I am expecting a total of -2/-3 from both sections combined.

Overall, I am predicting -3 or -4 for the test. With the worst curve in history, and a -4, that puts me at a 175, but I think that this test was overall average-hard, putting me at a 177-179. I hope my predictions are right!

I am also completely convinced that LR#2, question #24 did not have a valid answer. It was necessary assumption question. I don't know how in detail I can go about the question and answer choices, but I think I am going to throw the challenge flag at LSAC.

What was the topic of that question? Try to get us to remember it without breaking the rules

lpadr009 · Post by **lpadr009** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:17 pm

Judgeasaurus_Rex wrote:
chalky wrote:How many complete the passage (fill in the blank) questions did everyone have? I feel like one LR had 3 of them. Hoping that was experimental.
Quite a few from what I remember.

I will say this, don't think I had any main conclusion questions...sad because they can be freebees.

Yes!! There was one lr section thst didn't have any of these. I'm hoping that was experimental

ChillTomG · Post by **ChillTomG** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:18 pm

RZ5646 wrote:
ChillTomG wrote:I found LG to be much harder than that of a typical LSAT. Maybe I was missing something here, but I usually finish the LG section with 5-10 minutes to spare, both in PTs and for real in June. I finished this LG section with only two minutes to spare, then went back and realized that I missed a rules question. I would be very surprised if I missed any questions, but it felt much harder than usual.

The biggest surprise was RC. I thought it was surprisingly easy. Usually, I am seriously cramped for time and rushing during my PTs, barely finishing before the buzzer is called. The same thing happened during the June test. Here, I blew through the Schoenberg passage in 6 minutes, and finished with a few minutes to spare, without rushing. I usually miss 3 or 4 questions on RC (three on the June test). I would be very surprised if I missed more than two questions on this test. I am guessing one miss, and would not be surprised if I scored perfectly.

The LR sections were both about average I thought, neither seemed easier than the other. I didn't have as much time as I would have like to check answers on either section. I am expecting a total of -2/-3 from both sections combined.

Overall, I am predicting -3 or -4 for the test. With the worst curve in history, and a -4, that puts me at a 175, but I think that this test was overall average-hard, putting me at a 177-179. I hope my predictions are right!

I am also completely convinced that LR#2, question #24 did not have a valid answer. It was necessary assumption question. I don't know how in detail I can go about the question and answer choices, but I think I am going to throw the challenge flag at LSAC.
What was the topic of that question? Try to get us to remember it without breaking the rules

The question was about introductory science courses being "proving" courses

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:19 pm

lpadr009 wrote:
Judgeasaurus_Rex wrote:
chalky wrote:How many complete the passage (fill in the blank) questions did everyone have? I feel like one LR had 3 of them. Hoping that was experimental.
Quite a few from what I remember.

I will say this, don't think I had any main conclusion questions...sad because they can be freebees.
Yes!! There was one lr section thst didn't have any of these. I'm hoping that was experimental

I noticed a distinct lack of those and I didn't have an experimental LR.

nlee10 · Post by **nlee10** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:20 pm

I had 3 LR's so I honestly don't remember the content of them. I just remember the middle one being kind of hard.

EnderWiggin · Post by **EnderWiggin** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:20 pm

ChillTomG wrote:
EnderWiggin wrote:
nlee10 wrote:Was LG unusually easy for you guys?
Thought it was about standard but who knows.

Part of me was hoping for a truly rare game like a circle or pattern because if you make the inference upfront they're not that bad + having them tends to correlate with a more generous curve (at least from what I've observed.
Not true. See June of this year, or the fish game from a few years back.

Took June of this year. Didn't think the game type was really "rare", considering how heavily it drew from mod edit: TOO MUCH INFO

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:21 pm

ChillTomG wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:
ChillTomG wrote:I found LG to be much harder than that of a typical LSAT. Maybe I was missing something here, but I usually finish the LG section with 5-10 minutes to spare, both in PTs and for real in June. I finished this LG section with only two minutes to spare, then went back and realized that I missed a rules question. I would be very surprised if I missed any questions, but it felt much harder than usual.

The biggest surprise was RC. I thought it was surprisingly easy. Usually, I am seriously cramped for time and rushing during my PTs, barely finishing before the buzzer is called. The same thing happened during the June test. Here, I blew through the Schoenberg passage in 6 minutes, and finished with a few minutes to spare, without rushing. I usually miss 3 or 4 questions on RC (three on the June test). I would be very surprised if I missed more than two questions on this test. I am guessing one miss, and would not be surprised if I scored perfectly.

The LR sections were both about average I thought, neither seemed easier than the other. I didn't have as much time as I would have like to check answers on either section. I am expecting a total of -2/-3 from both sections combined.

Overall, I am predicting -3 or -4 for the test. With the worst curve in history, and a -4, that puts me at a 175, but I think that this test was overall average-hard, putting me at a 177-179. I hope my predictions are right!

I am also completely convinced that LR#2, question #24 did not have a valid answer. It was necessary assumption question. I don't know how in detail I can go about the question and answer choices, but I think I am going to throw the challenge flag at LSAC.
What was the topic of that question? Try to get us to remember it without breaking the rules
The question was about introductory science courses being "proving" courses

Hmmm I think that question was okay. Idk how to explain it in a TLS-friendly way though and I don't want to get banned.

lpadr009 · Post by **lpadr009** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:22 pm

RZ5646 wrote:
lpadr009 wrote:
Judgeasaurus_Rex wrote:
chalky wrote:How many complete the passage (fill in the blank) questions did everyone have? I feel like one LR had 3 of them. Hoping that was experimental.
Quite a few from what I remember.

I will say this, don't think I had any main conclusion questions...sad because they can be freebees.
Yes!! There was one lr section thst didn't have any of these. I'm hoping that was experimental
I noticed a distinct lack of those and I didn't have an experimental LR.

Feck