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Post by cbbinnyc » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:31 pm

RaceJudicata wrote:No client wants a 20 year old kid handling their legal matters. Doesn't matter if they are a prodigy. Hell, they don't even want K-JD first years, or any first years for that matter. I doubt a firm is going to hire that young of a law grad.

Go into a field (for now) where youth is appreciated - i.e. tech. Then, in 5 years come on back to law school if you are still interested. At that point, you'll have an established career, tons of marketable experience, and still only be 22 years old.

Enjoy your teenage years!
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Post by emkay625 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:36 pm

OLitch wrote:
emkay625 wrote:
OLitch wrote:
Mack.Hambleton wrote:
OLitch wrote:You shouldn't have a difficult time writing your diversity statement.
Please don't write a diversity statement about being a child gunner
You don't think this person has a unique life experience that allows them to have a vastly different perspective? They might not be a gunner.

Prodigy children face incredible hardships. They are often treated in the same as children with disabilities. Being highly intelligent is not as easy or as glamorous as one would imagine.

Being raised by a "tiger parent" also brings a diverse perspective to the educational environment.

Being homeschooled by an active parent can also lead to an expedited education. Imagine the diversity that a fulfilling educational experience could bring.

There are so many DS topics that this person may be able to write about.
wtf.

It is true. A prodigy child in a public school is often put in special education classes. What other resources are available? I'm not talking about the piano or geography prodigy. I am speaking of a highly gifted child. Unless you have a highly gifted child or know someone who does, it is hard to understand.

One of my closest friends married a prodigy. when they had a child, the husband was devastated when his three year old was proving to be like him. It is a hard life. Few peers understand the child. Teachers and administrators aren't trained on how to educate him. The poor boy was labled as antisocial and autistic because there isn't a classification for genius at our district's schools. He is getting some help but not the help he needs. He spends most of his school day in a special education class. Imagine how hard that is for an 8 year old who comprehends everything that is going on in the world around him. It would be like an adult being forced to learn in a special education class in an elementary school. It would be frustrating and inappropriate. When you have any condition that is extremely rare it can be lonely world.

A little Internet research can give you an idea of some of the struggles these kids face.
You know nothing about me, so i'm not sure why you're assuming I'm ignorant on the subject.

But comparing being a disabled child to being a child genius is offensive. OP do not do this in your diversity statement. You'll look like an asshole.

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Re: Should I cancel my score?

Post by emkay625 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:38 pm

OLitch wrote:
emkay625 wrote:
OLitch wrote:
Mack.Hambleton wrote:
OLitch wrote:You shouldn't have a difficult time writing your diversity statement.
Please don't write a diversity statement about being a child gunner
You don't think this person has a unique life experience that allows them to have a vastly different perspective? They might not be a gunner.

Prodigy children face incredible hardships. They are often treated in the same as children with disabilities. Being highly intelligent is not as easy or as glamorous as one would imagine.

Being raised by a "tiger parent" also brings a diverse perspective to the educational environment.

Being homeschooled by an active parent can also lead to an expedited education. Imagine the diversity that a fulfilling educational experience could bring.

There are so many DS topics that this person may be able to write about.
wtf.

It is true. A prodigy child in a public school is often put in special education classes. What other resources are available? I'm not talking about the piano or geography prodigy. I am speaking of a highly gifted child. Unless you have a highly gifted child or know someone who does, it is hard to understand.

One of my closest friends married a prodigy. when they had a child, the husband was devastated when his three year old was proving to be like him. It is a hard life. Few peers understand the child. Teachers and administrators aren't trained on how to educate him. The poor boy was labled as antisocial and autistic because there isn't a classification for genius at our district's schools. He is getting some help but not the help he needs. He spends most of his school day in a special education class. Imagine how hard that is for an 8 year old who comprehends everything that is going on in the world around him. It would be like an adult being forced to learn in a special education class in an elementary school. It would be frustrating and inappropriate. When you have any condition that is extremely rare it can be lonely world.

A little Internet research can give you an idea of some of the struggles these kids face.
If this is true they should sue, because this is illegal. LRE under IDEA makes this the basis of a civil rights lawsuit.

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Re: Should I cancel my score?

Post by seashell.economy » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:50 pm

pancakes3 wrote:Law school is not an academic endeavor. It's a professional degree. A 17 year old going in, coming out at 20 is virtually unemployable. Can you see any firm or chambers hiring a 20 year old?
Not necessarily...I have met a few young 20's (20,21,22) kiddos who've already graduated law school who are working in the courthouse.

Also, employers cannot ask your age. Unless you list your HS on your resume (but why??) then technically they can't figure out how old you are, right?

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Re: Should I cancel my score?

Post by OLitch » Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:17 pm

emkay625 wrote:
OLitch wrote:
emkay625 wrote:
OLitch wrote:
Mack.Hambleton wrote:
OLitch wrote:You shouldn't have a difficult time writing your diversity statement.
Please don't write a diversity statement about being a child gunner
You don't think this person has a unique life experience that allows them to have a vastly different perspective? They might not be a gunner.

Prodigy children face incredible hardships. They are often treated in the same as children with disabilities. Being highly intelligent is not as easy or as glamorous as one would imagine.

Being raised by a "tiger parent" also brings a diverse perspective to the educational environment.

Being homeschooled by an active parent can also lead to an expedited education. Imagine the diversity that a fulfilling educational experience could bring.

There are so many DS topics that this person may be able to write about.
wtf.

It is true. A prodigy child in a public school is often put in special education classes. What other resources are available? I'm not talking about the piano or geography prodigy. I am speaking of a highly gifted child. Unless you have a highly gifted child or know someone who does, it is hard to understand.

One of my closest friends married a prodigy. when they had a child, the husband was devastated when his three year old was proving to be like him. It is a hard life. Few peers understand the child. Teachers and administrators aren't trained on how to educate him. The poor boy was labled as antisocial and autistic because there isn't a classification for genius at our district's schools. He is getting some help but not the help he needs. He spends most of his school day in a special education class. Imagine how hard that is for an 8 year old who comprehends everything that is going on in the world around him. It would be like an adult being forced to learn in a special education class in an elementary school. It would be frustrating and inappropriate. When you have any condition that is extremely rare it can be lonely world.

A little Internet research can give you an idea of some of the struggles these kids face.
You know nothing about me, so i'm not sure why you're assuming I'm ignorant on the subject.

But comparing being a disabled child to being a child genius is offensive. OP do not do this in your diversity statement. You'll look like an asshole.
First, I am not making assumptions about you. I am responding to you. I stated "Unless you have..." I did not write "because you have no experience."

Second, I am not comparing a disabled child to a genius child. I am stating genius children are often put in special education classes. In "the system" they are often treated as though they have a disability. I am not the one who decides how children are educated.

Third, you make a choice to be offended. I stand by my original position that a person who expeditiously graduated college can offer a diverse perspective.

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Re: Should I cancel my score?

Post by A. Nony Mouse » Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:20 pm

I'm still not sure talking about the hardships of being gifted is really the way to go in a DS. Probably a fascinating PS, but suffering because society can't appreciate a child's brilliance just sounds wrong.

(Keep in mind that while everyone is different, I don't think that actually means everyone can/should write a DS.)

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Post by emkay625 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:24 pm

This is just simply not true. To begin, for the last decade and a half or so, there have not been "special education classes" because of the changes IDEA made. Sped classes only exist in very, VERY extreme behavior situations (like for students with behavioral disabilities who assault other children) and students with severe cognitive disfunctioning who have difficulty taking care of themselves (like students who cannot feed themselves or go to the bathroom independently). Any school district in the country doing otherwise is in GRAVE violation of federal law, and if that is really happening to your friend's child, they need to lawyer-up ASAP.

Source: I am a former SPED teacher and school district employee, my law school seminar paper was about IDEA, and my husband is a SPED consultant. you are either lying or your friend can sue and become very, very rich.

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Post by emkay625 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:29 pm

Also sorry OP for having highjacked your thread.

As to OP's original concerns:

-I also think you should take time off, a gap year between undergrad and law school pursuing Americorps or something similar could show emotional maturity, which I don't think will be an issue for admissions, but i do think will be an issue for employers.

-I also do think your unique schooling experience could make for a good diversity statement, depending on the circumstances. but for the love of god please don't make it about how because you're gifted you have been discriminated against/compare yourself to people with disabilities as that other poster is saying.

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Re: Should I cancel my score?

Post by ihenry » Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:30 pm

cbbinnyc wrote:
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cbbinnyc wrote:Travel, get a job, do a production of Hamlet in a basement, get laid, whatever, but there is no reason to rush into a demanding career. You will regret your lost youth later.
Honestly, I don't see anything wrong in being willing to devote one's own late teenage years to academic work; you don't define what "youth" is for another person. The only issue is from I've read law firms favor older and more mature people, and it could cascade down to admissions to law schools who want their graduates employed.
I think it's misleading to call going to law school "devoting one's years to academic work" unless you go to HYS and go on to a PhD and/or a teaching job. If OP wants to get a PhD or a masters or something, that can be pretty intense too, but it's very different than law school. In any case, it's not so much the law school itself that I think is a bad idea; it's starting a legal career before turning 21. I didn't intend to "define" OP's youth, but I do think there are certain freedoms that youth allows for and (in my mind, at least) rushing into a legal career at such a young age is a dubious choice. Different strokes for different folks, sure, but I think this is pretty common advice. In any case, sorry if I came off as a know-it-all, people can do whatever they want.
Yeah that was my point too. If OP likes "schooling", or whatever it is called, consider getting a PhD.

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Re: Should I cancel my score?

Post by guavaeater » Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:44 am

The thread's derailed :0 I've already made my decision though.

I'm learning a lot from this. Thank you so much for your advice/insights.

lol I won't be writing a PS/DS on how hard it is to 'intelligent', being a child gunner :?: , etc.
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pancakes3 wrote:Law school is not an academic endeavor. It's a professional degree. A 17 year old going in, coming out at 20 is virtually unemployable. Can you see any firm or chambers hiring a 20 year old?
Not necessarily...I have met a few young 20's (20,21,22) kiddos who've already graduated law school who are working in the courthouse.

Also, employers cannot ask your age. Unless you list your HS on your resume (but why??) then technically they can't figure out how old you are, right?
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Re: Should I cancel my score?

Post by pancakes3 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:04 pm

do you know why you want to go to law school?

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Post by guavaeater » Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:26 pm

pancakes3 wrote:do you know why you want to go to law school?
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Post by pancakes3 » Sun Oct 11, 2015 1:18 am

guavaeater wrote:
pancakes3 wrote:do you know why you want to go to law school?
yes
would you mind sharing?

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