What the F**k is LSAC's Deal? Forum

[bombaysippin]

Based on what I've seen from posters on the internet, I don't think the test was equated properly. Has anyone posted anywhere claiming a 180? How many 175+s have you seen? That's just anecdotal, though, of course. And yeah, if you took this test and you're competing against people who took easier tests, it might give you a disadvantage.

That being said, I would encourage LSAC to keep doing what they've been doing with the games section. They already have a rough idea of how hard we can work/study based on our GPA; the LSAT should be testing something different--namely how our minds work.

Do you know how many non tlsers there are that take the LSAT? Must be an expert.

[03152016]

Have they lost all sense of duty?

what, they have a duty to give you a test with the number of difficult questions you want, distributed where you want them
grow up
in the real world no one is obliged to give you anything, you entitled brat
mommy and daddy don't come down to the principals office to complain about your Ds anymore

[NYSprague]

How hilarious would it be for LSAC to mess up a curve with DOJ breathing down their necks.
You guys know that didn't happen.

[lieph82]

Based on what I've seen from posters on the internet, I don't think the test was equated properly. Has anyone posted anywhere claiming a 180? How many 175+s have you seen? That's just anecdotal, though, of course. And yeah, if you took this test and you're competing against people who took easier tests, it might give you a disadvantage.

That being said, I would encourage LSAC to keep doing what they've been doing with the games section. They already have a rough idea of how hard we can work/study based on our GPA; the LSAT should be testing something different--namely how our minds work.

Do you know how many non tlsers there are that take the LSAT? Must be an expert.

I honestly don't know how that response applies to anything that I wrote. First, I said "the internet," not TLS. Second, I said "I think," not "THEY SCREWED UP THE EQUATING PROCESS!!!"

I am far from an expert. I am just a layperson offering my thoughts.

[Dipper]

Based on what I've seen from posters on the internet, I don't think the test was equated properly. Has anyone posted anywhere claiming a 180? How many 175+s have you seen? That's just anecdotal, though, of course. And yeah, if you took this test and you're competing against people who took easier tests, it might give you a disadvantage.

That being said, I would encourage LSAC to keep doing what they've been doing with the games section. They already have a rough idea of how hard we can work/study based on our GPA; the LSAT should be testing something different--namely how our minds work.

Do you know how many non tlsers there are that take the LSAT? Must be an expert.

Lieph clearly said that data is anecdotal. Also, Lieph aced that test, so respect.

[birdlaw624]

it's LSAC's job to get you into a good law school? prob better off channeling your anger to drilling and getting ready for september. was the 4th LG hard? yes but not impossible. even so, say you get every single question wrong on it you can still make up for it by killing the other sections.

[DoveBodyWash]

taking LSAT multiple times is a rite of passage anyway. OP should be thankful for the opportunity to be more rigorous.

if it was harder for u, it was harder for everyone else. it's a wash anyway

[toothbrush]

Also, Lieph aced that test, so respect.

you have no idea how real life works.

[bombaysippin]

Based on what I've seen from posters on the internet, I don't think the test was equated properly. Has anyone posted anywhere claiming a 180? How many 175+s have you seen? That's just anecdotal, though, of course. And yeah, if you took this test and you're competing against people who took easier tests, it might give you a disadvantage.

That being said, I would encourage LSAC to keep doing what they've been doing with the games section. They already have a rough idea of how hard we can work/study based on our GPA; the LSAT should be testing something different--namely how our minds work.

Do you know how many non tlsers there are that take the LSAT? Must be an expert.

I honestly don't know how that response applies to anything that I wrote. First, I said "the internet," not TLS. Second, I said "I think," not "THEY SCREWED UP THE EQUATING PROCESS!!!"

I am far from an expert. I am just a layperson offering my thoughts.

I only responded to the bolded. Where else other than TLS is important for law school stuff? Even if you broaden it to the entire internet universe, there are tens of thousands of people who don't ever post their score. Not attacking you, just this thread is ridiculously dumb.

[bombaysippin]

Based on what I've seen from posters on the internet, I don't think the test was equated properly. Has anyone posted anywhere claiming a 180? How many 175+s have you seen? That's just anecdotal, though, of course. And yeah, if you took this test and you're competing against people who took easier tests, it might give you a disadvantage.

That being said, I would encourage LSAC to keep doing what they've been doing with the games section. They already have a rough idea of how hard we can work/study based on our GPA; the LSAT should be testing something different--namely how our minds work.

Do you know how many non tlsers there are that take the LSAT? Must be an expert.

Lieph clearly said that data is anecdotal. Also, Lieph aced that test, so respect.

Lol..okay because we should all respect people who ace the test.

[trexjake32]

Have they lost all sense of duty?

what, they have a duty to give you a test with the number of difficult questions you want, distributed where you want them
grow up
in the real world no one is obliged to give you anything, you entitled brat
mommy and daddy don't come down to the principals office to complain about your Ds anymore

By duty I mean that they should, at least, have an obligation to produce a test that accurately, from year to year, gauges the skills they are testing for. When there are serious variations that aren't compensatory, then they have failed to meet that criteria. Given the magnificent impact this test has on law school admissions, I don't see how people could argue with this.

[CincinnatusND]

Come on. That test was not that difficult. And the LG section wasn't bad at all. The 4th game was non-standard, but fairly easy in the end. If anything, the LR was harder than normal and the reason for the forgiving curve.

My results lined up almost perfectly with my average on PTs 51-70 almost perfectly (missed my average by one point) FWIW.

[anyriotgirl]

Have they lost all sense of duty?

what, they have a duty to give you a test with the number of difficult questions you want, distributed where you want them
grow up
in the real world no one is obliged to give you anything, you entitled brat
mommy and daddy don't come down to the principals office to complain about your Ds anymore

By duty I mean that they should, at least, have an obligation to produce a test that accurately, from year to year, gauges the skills they are testing for. When there are serious variations that aren't compensatory, then they have failed to meet that criteria. Given the magnificent impact this test has on law school admissions, I don't see how people could argue with this.

lololololol

are you a native speaker of English? if not, I will feel sort of bad

[trexjake32]

Have they lost all sense of duty?

what, they have a duty to give you a test with the number of difficult questions you want, distributed where you want them
grow up
in the real world no one is obliged to give you anything, you entitled brat
mommy and daddy don't come down to the principals office to complain about your Ds anymore

By duty I mean that they should, at least, have an obligation to produce a test that accurately, from year to year, gauges the skills they are testing for. When there are serious variations that aren't compensatory, then they have failed to meet that criteria. Given the magnificent impact this test has on law school admissions, I don't see how people could argue with this.

lololololol

are you a native speaker of English? if not, I will feel sort of bad

magnificent huge

Is that better?

[Mullens]

Have they lost all sense of duty?

what, they have a duty to give you a test with the number of difficult questions you want, distributed where you want them
grow up
in the real world no one is obliged to give you anything, you entitled brat
mommy and daddy don't come down to the principals office to complain about your Ds anymore

By duty I mean that they should, at least, have an obligation to produce a test that accurately, from year to year, gauges the skills they are testing for. When there are serious variations that aren't compensatory, then they have failed to meet that criteria. Given the magnificent impact this test has on law school admissions, I don't see how people could argue with this.

Please describe how you think the tests are "curved" or "standardized." I'm starting to think you have no idea how LSAC pre-equates the test and are just looking to blame anyone but yourself for your poor score. Just take the test again; it's not like you only get one shot at it anyway.

[Dipper]

Based on what I've seen from posters on the internet, I don't think the test was equated properly. Has anyone posted anywhere claiming a 180? How many 175+s have you seen? That's just anecdotal, though, of course. And yeah, if you took this test and you're competing against people who took easier tests, it might give you a disadvantage.

That being said, I would encourage LSAC to keep doing what they've been doing with the games section. They already have a rough idea of how hard we can work/study based on our GPA; the LSAT should be testing something different--namely how our minds work.

Do you know how many non tlsers there are that take the LSAT? Must be an expert.

Lieph clearly said that data is anecdotal. Also, Lieph aced that test, so respect.

Lol..okay because we should all respect people who ace the test.

No, you should probably just respect people in general. You know, as a human.

[burtmacklin]

Didn't take the test, but I'm so curious to see this logic game everyone is going crazy over

[bombaysippin]

No, you should probably just respect people in general. You know, as a human.

Ahhhh, gotcha. I don't see where my disrespect was, but I will keep what you said in mind. Do you respect entitlement?

[Dipper]

No, you should probably just respect people in general. You know, as a human.

Ahhhh, gotcha. I don't see where my disrespect was, but I will keep what you said in mind. Do you respect entitlement?

OP is clearly being entitled. Lieph was just making a comment about anecdotal evidence s/he had observed, and sharing it. You selectively bolded parts of Lieph's comments in order to exploit a flaw that Lieph had already admitted to and ended with a sarcastic comment implying his/her naivete. That's the disrespect I'm referring to.

[DoveBodyWash]

Didn't take the test, but I'm so curious to see this logic game everyone is going crazy over

[Gray]

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[bombaysippin]

No, you should probably just respect people in general. You know, as a human.

Ahhhh, gotcha. I don't see where my disrespect was, but I will keep what you said in mind. Do you respect entitlement?

OP is clearly being entitled. Lieph was just making a comment about anecdotal evidence s/he had observed, and sharing it. You selectively bolded parts of Lieph's comments in order to exploit a flaw that Lieph had already admitted to and ended with a sarcastic comment implying his/her naivete. That's the disrespect I'm referring to.

You give me too much credit. I didn't bother to read past what I bolded on that person's comments.

[trexjake32]

Have they lost all sense of duty?

what, they have a duty to give you a test with the number of difficult questions you want, distributed where you want them
grow up
in the real world no one is obliged to give you anything, you entitled brat
mommy and daddy don't come down to the principals office to complain about your Ds anymore

By duty I mean that they should, at least, have an obligation to produce a test that accurately, from year to year, gauges the skills they are testing for. When there are serious variations that aren't compensatory, then they have failed to meet that criteria. Given the magnificent impact this test has on law school admissions, I don't see how people could argue with this.

Please describe how you think the tests are "curved" or "standardized." I'm starting to think you have no idea how LSAC pre-equates the test and are just looking to blame anyone but yourself for your poor score. Just take the test again; it's not like you only get one shot at it anyway.

I will take the test again, but my concern is that they're going to continue with this. I explained in my original post that I think they did give a generous curve (-13) (which I know is preset), but that curve still doesn't compensate (in comparison to other tests) for the difficulty of this test. I hope that standardized means that the test has an ability to be "standard" from test to test and that, with only slight variations, a test taker can produce the same results from test to test. If they're going to deviate from standard they should at least forewarn test takers (as they did with the introduction of comparative passages). Frankly, I think people would have been better forewarned for extraneous games than comparative passages (comparative passages are pretty self-explanatory and not that much different from regular ones).

[Mullens]

lol at the respect police on TLS. You're in for a rude awakening in the legal profession.

[toothbrush]

No, you should probably just respect people in general. You know, as a human.

Ahhhh, gotcha. I don't see where my disrespect was, but I will keep what you said in mind. Do you respect entitlement?

OP is clearly being entitled. Lieph was just making a comment about anecdotal evidence s/he had observed, and sharing it. You selectively bolded parts of Lieph's comments in order to exploit a flaw that Lieph had already admitted to and ended with a sarcastic comment implying his/her naivete. That's the disrespect I'm referring to.

this is some insane white-knighting. i hope you're getting some kick-back or something. did lieph pm you tits or something