didn't take in europe but now that u mention it also felt like LR was really heavy in some q-types. lot of str/weak and flaw, princip, less nec/suff than i expected.samiam1 wrote:My order was: LG(23Q)-RC(27Q)-LR(25R) () LG(23Q)-LR(25Q)claudemonet55 wrote:broseph9522 wrote:Anyone take the LSAT in Europe?
LG: the first LG was quite easy, finished in 30min, seemed like the experimental ones. the second is Ok, nothing weird although the assignment game took some times...
RC: long and not easy, the 3rd science one which is not easy at all even I was major in that area;I had to rush the last paragraph (5Q) in 5min.....doomed....
LR1: a bit bizarre for me since too much para/flaw/princip (almost half?) but turn out to be ok.
LR2; nothing particular...manage to finished in 31min and don't know how to spend the extra 4 min!....
Hey, we took the same exam in the same order it seems. Which logic game was the experimental - i.e. the game with retained/upgrade was that experimental you think or real?
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I felt like the first LG was quite easy while the second one was very restrictive in terms of time. I finished the other four sections with nearly 5 minutes left on each, but the second LG had me guessing when it came down to the wire.
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But which one do you think was the experimental? Was it the retained/upgraded one?broseph9522 wrote:I felt like the first LG was quite easy while the second one was very restrictive in terms of time. I finished the other four sections with nearly 5 minutes left on each, but the second LG had me guessing when it came down to the wire.
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The one with the itineraries and the paintings is the real deal, if you had that one. The one with the food was experimental.samiam1 wrote:But which one do you think was the experimental? Was it the retained/upgraded one?broseph9522 wrote:I felt like the first LG was quite easy while the second one was very restrictive in terms of time. I finished the other four sections with nearly 5 minutes left on each, but the second LG had me guessing when it came down to the wire.
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I took the test in Seoul, Korea.
LR-RC-LG-BREAK-LR-RC
Did anyone else find the LG incredibly time-consuming?
I usually can finish the LG. Go -0 to -2. In rare cases I run out of time, I miss around -4.
This time, I guessed on five questions on LG. All the games seemed easy, but not many inferences could be made...more of a brute force-base game section....
The rest of the test was a breeze.
Wondering if I should cancel since I was aiming for 175+. Going in with five guesses....NOT GOOD....
LR-RC-LG-BREAK-LR-RC
Did anyone else find the LG incredibly time-consuming?
I usually can finish the LG. Go -0 to -2. In rare cases I run out of time, I miss around -4.
This time, I guessed on five questions on LG. All the games seemed easy, but not many inferences could be made...more of a brute force-base game section....
The rest of the test was a breeze.
Wondering if I should cancel since I was aiming for 175+. Going in with five guesses....NOT GOOD....
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Please don't discuss specific test questions.
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Same thoughts here. (Took it in Asia)
For LG, the game was terrible, it wasn't necessarily hard but the questions were very time-consuming. I usually get around 15 mins + left over in LG, but even considering test nerves I was FAR behind schedule. Had to guess on a question in the end.
For LR, the questions were heavily laden on some question types. They felt a little weird to me, can't explain exactly what. I suppose the fact that it was so partial to some question types made it feel so alien.
For RC, it wasn't that difficult I guess, although I did find some questions in the comparative passage rather confusing.
Overall, it felt a lot different than the PT tests. I'm not sure if test nerves made me feel that way or in fact the questions were somewhat different.
I used to think the myth that LG was harder in Asia was unsubstantiated... but now I give it some credit.
For LG, the game was terrible, it wasn't necessarily hard but the questions were very time-consuming. I usually get around 15 mins + left over in LG, but even considering test nerves I was FAR behind schedule. Had to guess on a question in the end.
For LR, the questions were heavily laden on some question types. They felt a little weird to me, can't explain exactly what. I suppose the fact that it was so partial to some question types made it feel so alien.
For RC, it wasn't that difficult I guess, although I did find some questions in the comparative passage rather confusing.
Overall, it felt a lot different than the PT tests. I'm not sure if test nerves made me feel that way or in fact the questions were somewhat different.
I used to think the myth that LG was harder in Asia was unsubstantiated... but now I give it some credit.
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This is completely unsubstantiated. The test administered in Asia was the same as a February exam administered in the States in the last few years, and that's how it's always been.questionsandanswers wrote:Same thoughts here. (Took it in Asia)
For LG, the game was terrible, it wasn't necessarily hard but the questions were very time-consuming. I usually get around 15 mins + left over in LG, but even considering test nerves I was FAR behind schedule. Had to guess on a question in the end.
For LR, the questions were heavily laden on some question types. They felt a little weird to me, can't explain exactly what. I suppose the fact that it was so partial to some question types made it feel so alien.
For RC, it wasn't that difficult I guess, although I did find some questions in the comparative passage rather confusing.
Overall, it felt a lot different than the PT tests. I'm not sure if test nerves made me feel that way or in fact the questions were somewhat different.
I used to think the myth that LG was harder in Asia was unsubstantiated... but now I give it some credit.
It was just a hard games section, which is ideally going to be made up for by a good curve.
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I thought the game section was pretty average, seeing that it had no killer game. Now y'all are making me scared that I made some false inferences on the gamesneprep wrote:This is completely unsubstantiated. The test administered in Asia was the same as a February exam administered in the States in the last few years, and that's how it's always been.questionsandanswers wrote:Same thoughts here. (Took it in Asia)
For LG, the game was terrible, it wasn't necessarily hard but the questions were very time-consuming. I usually get around 15 mins + left over in LG, but even considering test nerves I was FAR behind schedule. Had to guess on a question in the end.
I used to think the myth that LG was harder in Asia was unsubstantiated... but now I give it some credit.
It was just a hard games section, which is ideally going to be made up for by a good curve.
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+1questionsandanswers wrote: For LR, the questions were heavily laden on some question types. They felt a little weird to me, can't explain exactly what. I suppose the fact that it was so partial to some question types made it feel so alien.
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i think the difficulty came from there being so few inferences so if you got through them thats definitely good!Howl wrote:I thought the game section was pretty average, seeing that it had no killer game. Now y'all are making me scared that I made some false inferences on the gamesneprep wrote:This is completely unsubstantiated. The test administered in Asia was the same as a February exam administered in the States in the last few years, and that's how it's always been.questionsandanswers wrote:Same thoughts here. (Took it in Asia)
For LG, the game was terrible, it wasn't necessarily hard but the questions were very time-consuming. I usually get around 15 mins + left over in LG, but even considering test nerves I was FAR behind schedule. Had to guess on a question in the end.
I used to think the myth that LG was harder in Asia was unsubstantiated... but now I give it some credit.
It was just a hard games section, which is ideally going to be made up for by a good curve.ruh-roh.
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Thanks. Games used to be my weakest section and I was completely utterly absolutely destroyed by Zones way back in Oct 2012, so I always have this lingering doubt.foreverhoping wrote:i think the difficulty came from there being so few inferences so if you got through them thats definitely good!Howl wrote: I thought the game section was pretty average, seeing that it had no killer game. Now y'all are making me scared that I made some false inferences on the gamesruh-roh.
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oh WOW hahahaha
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thanks, meep. sent me all around the web researching what people thought of that test! based on http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... start=1025 it seems like a -11 test? this wait is no fun...
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Thanks for finding the thread, foreverhoping! I'm relieved that it looks like it's going to be a -11 curve.
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yep! rookie question but the curve will hold even though were taking this 2+ years later and the only thing that changes is our percentile, right? never really understood the LSAT curve 
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Absolutely; the equating process is specific to the content of the actual test.foreverhoping wrote:yep! rookie question but the curve will hold even though were taking this 2+ years later and the only thing that changes is our percentile, right? never really understood the LSAT curve
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I took it in Oslo. LG-RC-LR-LG-LR- couldn't have asked for a better order. The first LG was easy (so I knew it had to be the experimental, which turned out to be the case), which helped me get on a roll til the break. The graded LG would not have been too bad had I not spent so much time trying to diagram one of the games. How does everyone feel about it overall, though? Anyone have a curve prediction that they feel particularly confident in? Also, does anyone know if this test or parts of it had been administered some other time?broseph9522 wrote:Anyone take the LSAT in Europe?
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It was the flooded/irrigatedsamiam1 wrote:But which one do you think was the experimental? Was it the retained/upgraded one?broseph9522 wrote:I felt like the first LG was quite easy while the second one was very restrictive in terms of time. I finished the other four sections with nearly 5 minutes left on each, but the second LG had me guessing when it came down to the wire.
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do these q types look familiar to you? not to me, so i'm not sure they're the same.Howl wrote:oh WOW hahahaha
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How sureare you that the flooded/irrigated game was experimental? By which I mean how do you know?pin_s wrote:It was the flooded/irrigatedsamiam1 wrote:But which one do you think was the experimental? Was it the retained/upgraded one?broseph9522 wrote:I felt like the first LG was quite easy while the second one was very restrictive in terms of time. I finished the other four sections with nearly 5 minutes left on each, but the second LG had me guessing when it came down to the wire.
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pin_s wrote:do these q types look familiar to you? not to me, so i'm not sure they're the same.Howl wrote:oh WOW hahahaha
They look SOOOPER familiar to me. But the reason they don't look familiar to you would be because you took it in Europe and I along with several others in this thread took it in East Asia. Apparently they use a different test for each of the international geographic regions. It is def possible that your test was a re-use of another Feb test though.
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oh, sorry. i meant that the flooded/irrigated was the real deal. the other games section was just much too easy.samiam1 wrote:How sureare you that the flooded/irrigated game was experimental? By which I mean how do you know?pin_s wrote:It was the flooded/irrigatedsamiam1 wrote:But which one do you think was the experimental? Was it the retained/upgraded one?broseph9522 wrote:I felt like the first LG was quite easy while the second one was very restrictive in terms of time. I finished the other four sections with nearly 5 minutes left on each, but the second LG had me guessing when it came down to the wire.
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ah, makes sense. totally in the dark about the test i took. hate that i can't find any gossip/ info on it while i wait for results.Howl wrote:pin_s wrote:do these q types look familiar to you? not to me, so i'm not sure they're the same.Howl wrote:oh WOW hahahaha
They look SOOOPER familiar to me. But the reason they don't look familiar to you would be because you took it in Europe and I along with several others in this thread took it in East Asia. Apparently they use a different test for each of the international geographic regions. It is def possible that your test was a re-use of another Feb test though.