How many people lie about their LSAT scores? Forum

[Patriot1208]

Based on the fact that people read crap like McGraw Hill and Dummies and use Kaplan/PR LG strategies since they've never heard of the LGB might give a lot of credibility to that theory.

Most people don't study very hard either. They take a couple of practice tests and decide to give it a whirl. Some of the test takers in this group are smart and still score in the 160's. This is good but they don't come anywhere near their full potential. It wasn't until I stumbled upon TLS that my idea of success on the LSAT became 170+ and every law school besides the T14 became TTT. TLS is like the Asian parents I never had.

[Ambitious]

I do not have an LSAT score yet, practiced at 167, but I think lying about it would be pointless. This is supposed to be a place to go for honest advice, right?

[GettingReady2010]

Based on the fact that people read crap like McGraw Hill and Dummies and use Kaplan/PR LG strategies since they've never heard of the LGB might give a lot of credibility to that theory.

Most people don't study very hard either. They take a couple of practice tests and decide to give it a whirl. Some of the test takers in this group are smart and still score in the 160's. This is good but they don't come anywhere near their full potential. It wasn't until I stumbled upon TLS that my idea of success on the LSAT became 170+ and every law school besides the T14 became TTT. TLS is like the Asian parents I never had.

I have to disagree with this. I think people, on average, study a decent amount (i.e. over 2 months and about 15 PTs). Especially now with TLS and all the prep companies out there. This is, of course, just speculation.

[WeX11788]

I have a strong feeling that a majority of this website lies about their scores--quite particularly, those constantly posting about their 170s/180 score.


P.S. I came across a thread today where the thread topic was something along the lines of "NYU or Havard my life sucks" and in the thread the thread starter was going on about how their life is horrible because of their dilemma. Pitiful.

[Mickey Quicknumbers]

I have to disagree with this. I think people, on average, study a decent amount (i.e. over 2 months and about 15 PTs). Especially now with TLS and all the prep companies out there. This is, of course, just speculation.

I counter your baseless knowledge with an anecdote! outside of those who do prep classes, and generally ignore the homework, I've talked to dozens of people between testing day and friends who've taken it. None of them have done more than 5 practice tests. And none of them would listen to my advice and go through the logic games bible. I just wanted to help

[GettingReady2010]

I have to disagree with this. I think people, on average, study a decent amount (i.e. over 2 months and about 15 PTs). Especially now with TLS and all the prep companies out there. This is, of course, just speculation.

I counter your baseless knowledge with an anecdote! outside of those who do prep classes, and generally ignore the homework, I've talked to dozens of people between testing day and friends who've taken it. None of them have done more than 5 practice tests. And none of them would listen to my advice and go through the logic games bible. I just wanted to help

If this is generally true for most applicants, I don't understand why they don't take the LSAT more seriously. I mean it is probably around 60% of your app package. It determines where you go to school, how much money you get in scholarships (often times 1000s), and, to a certain extent, what your career prospects are. It seems like people would realize how serious it is. Applicants have spent 3+ years on their GPA, yet they are unwilling to spend a couple months preparing for a test that dwarfs its importance? I don't get it.

I guess this is a good thing, though. In this end, this type of apathy helps us out a lot.

[flyingpanda]

I have a strong feeling that a majority of this website lies about their scores--quite particularly, those constantly posting about their 170s/180 score.


P.S. I came across a thread today where the thread topic was something along the lines of "NYU or Havard my life sucks" and in the thread the thread starter was going on about how their life is horrible because of their dilemma. Pitiful.

You've been on this site for a month and you've already decided that most of us are lying about our scores? A lot of us are fb friends, future classmates. If we lied about our scores, it would be pretty apparent from the way our cycles didn't fit our reported numbers. The vast majority of people are being honest about their scores.

[Patriot1208]

I have a strong feeling that a majority of this website lies about their scores--quite particularly, those constantly posting about their 170s/180 score.


P.S. I came across a thread today where the thread topic was something along the lines of "NYU or Havard my life sucks" and in the thread the thread starter was going on about how their life is horrible because of their dilemma. Pitiful.

You've been on this site for a month and you've already decided that most of us are lying about our scores? A lot of us are fb friends, future classmates. If we lied about our scores, it would be pretty apparent from the way our cycles didn't fit our reported numbers. The vast majority of people are being honest about their scores.

The people who post here a lot, don't lie about their scores, because they know each other personally and chat online often and things like that. It's just a very self selecting group. You'll see when you go through the talk about your school forums and such that the t20 schools are overwhelmingly represented. Literally, it seems about half of northwesterns 2013 class posts on this website.

Also, some of those threads like you talk about are flame, and people know it. But no matter who you are choosing the right school is tough, especially if its between one school with scholly and a better school.

[WeX11788]

I have a strong feeling that a majority of this website lies about their scores--quite particularly, those constantly posting about their 170s/180 score.


P.S. I came across a thread today where the thread topic was something along the lines of "NYU or Havard my life sucks" and in the thread the thread starter was going on about how their life is horrible because of their dilemma. Pitiful.

You've been on this site for a month and you've already decided that most of us are lying about our scores? A lot of us are fb friends, future classmates. If we lied about our scores, it would be pretty apparent from the way our cycles didn't fit our reported numbers. The vast majority of people are being honest about their scores.

I'm sorry that I offended you. Perhaps claiming a majority of the site lies about their scores was too bold of a statement; however, I am nearly certain that a LARGE NUMBER of people on this site are lying. That takes less than a month to figure out, believe me. Congrats on your fb friends.

[DoubleChecks]

I have a strong feeling that a majority of this website lies about their scores--quite particularly, those constantly posting about their 170s/180 score.


P.S. I came across a thread today where the thread topic was something along the lines of "NYU or Havard my life sucks" and in the thread the thread starter was going on about how their life is horrible because of their dilemma. Pitiful.

You've been on this site for a month and you've already decided that most of us are lying about our scores? A lot of us are fb friends, future classmates. If we lied about our scores, it would be pretty apparent from the way our cycles didn't fit our reported numbers. The vast majority of people are being honest about their scores.

I'm sorry that I offended you. Perhaps claiming a majority of the site lies about their scores was too bold of a statement; however, I am nearly certain that a LARGE NUMBER of people on this site are lying. That takes less than a month to figure out, believe me. Congrats on your fb friends.

im convinced otherwise

[Bryan]

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[Patriot1208]

I have a strong feeling that a majority of this website lies about their scores--quite particularly, those constantly posting about their 170s/180 score.


P.S. I came across a thread today where the thread topic was something along the lines of "NYU or Havard my life sucks" and in the thread the thread starter was going on about how their life is horrible because of their dilemma. Pitiful.

You've been on this site for a month and you've already decided that most of us are lying about our scores? A lot of us are fb friends, future classmates. If we lied about our scores, it would be pretty apparent from the way our cycles didn't fit our reported numbers. The vast majority of people are being honest about their scores.

I'm sorry that I offended you. Perhaps claiming a majority of the site lies about their scores was too bold of a statement; however, I am nearly certain that a LARGE NUMBER of people on this site are lying. That takes less than a month to figure out, believe me. Congrats on your fb friends.

Well, who is to argue with your clear genius? Also, nice job avoiding the actual evidence people gave in advance. But I expect you are just saying this to make yourself feel better about your 155.

[BenJ]

For better or for worse, TLS is pretty elitist- and so people understand that posters will take their advice and opinions more seriously if they have a 180 than if they have a 160.

What? Certainly not. There are a number of posters on here who are among the most informative and useful people and who get a lot of respect who definitely do not have T14 numbers/aren't at T14 schools. And there are plenty of idiots who no one listens to with 170+ scores (I've been one at times, and this makes you sound like one).

[Deuce]

I don't think a lot of people here lie; it is an internet forum so there is no benefit or no need to. In person, however, I know several people from my school that will say they got a 16X when they really scored a 156 or so.

[Bryan]

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[Mickey Quicknumbers]

For better or for worse, TLS is pretty elitist- and so people understand that posters will take their advice and opinions more seriously if they have a 180 than if they have a 160.

What? Certainly not. There are a number of posters on here who are among the most informative and useful people and who get a lot of respect who definitely do not have T14 numbers/aren't at T14 schools. And there are plenty of idiots who no one listens to with 170+ scores (I've been one at times, and this makes you sound like one).

Sorry, I meant LSAT advice and opinion not overall law school advice. My point wasn't that those with high scores have better advice. In fact, I think someone with a 160 or 165 can give just as valid or more valid advice about the LSAT. But someone in that range might lie about their score so that their advice is given more weight by most readers of the forum, rightly or wrongly.

In general, I don't think there's a lot of lying about scores. TLS users are a skewed sample of LSAT takers and those who choose to broadcast their scores are a skewed sample of TLS users. I think there might be some slight lying in the 'what are my chances?' and 'choosing a law school' forums where applicants might fudge their lsat up and gpa down so that they can avoid the dreaded "retake; reapply' advice.

It's ok bro, we all know you're lying about your score.

[DoubleChecks]

For better or for worse, TLS is pretty elitist- and so people understand that posters will take their advice and opinions more seriously if they have a 180 than if they have a 160.

What? Certainly not. There are a number of posters on here who are among the most informative and useful people and who get a lot of respect who definitely do not have T14 numbers/aren't at T14 schools. And there are plenty of idiots who no one listens to with 170+ scores (I've been one at times, and this makes you sound like one).

Sorry, I meant LSAT advice and opinion not overall law school advice. My point wasn't that those with high scores have better advice. In fact, I think someone with a 160 or 165 can give just as valid or more valid advice about the LSAT. But someone in that range might lie about their score so that their advice is given more weight by most readers of the forum, rightly or wrongly.

In general, I don't think there's a lot of lying about scores. TLS users are a skewed sample of LSAT takers and those who choose to broadcast their scores are a skewed sample of TLS users. I think there might be some slight lying in the 'what are my chances?' and 'choosing a law school' forums where applicants might fudge their lsat up and gpa down so that they can avoid the dreaded "retake; reapply' advice.

the thing is, stating one's LSAT score is hardly required or necessary. you could give good advice w/o attaching a LSAT score addendum. i rarely see anyone questioning good advice with, "that sounds like a good plan and makes sense, but i mean, unless you have a 170+, i prob wont give it a try" lol

edit: maybe im biased, but i dont believe TLS has a lot of LSAT score liars. are there some? of course. the majority or even close to that? i personally dont think so. if TLS forced you to input SOME LSAT score in your profile, then that'd be a diff story, but the info is voluntary. someone can just not state it anywhere and get by just fine (in terms of their self-esteem i suppose) lol.

[KibblesAndVick]

How long before people start posting screenshots from their LSAC accounts?

[GettingReady2010]

I don't think a lot of people here lie; it is an internet forum so there is no benefit or no need to. In person, however, I know several people from my school that will say they got a 16X when they really scored a 156 or so.

How do you know this, and why would they do this?

[Patriot1208]

I don't think a lot of people here lie; it is an internet forum so there is no benefit or no need to. In person, however, I know several people from my school that will say they got a 16X when they really scored a 156 or so.

How do you know this, and why would they do this?

Not sure how he knows it, but are you kidding me? People in person lie all the time about the stupidest shit. And I can imagine your LSAT score in law school is probably one of the most common things lied about ever.

[GettingReady2010]

I don't think a lot of people here lie; it is an internet forum so there is no benefit or no need to. In person, however, I know several people from my school that will say they got a 16X when they really scored a 156 or so.

How do you know this, and why would they do this?

Not sure how he knows it, but are you kidding me? People in person lie all the time about the stupidest shit. And I can imagine your LSAT score in law school is probably one of the most common things lied about ever.

I always thought that people generally stopped talking about LSAT score once they're enrolled. Who are these people who ask their classmates what there LSAT score is? Who is randomly going to tell people what their LSAT score is?

[Patriot1208]

I don't think a lot of people here lie; it is an internet forum so there is no benefit or no need to. In person, however, I know several people from my school that will say they got a 16X when they really scored a 156 or so.

How do you know this, and why would they do this?

Not sure how he knows it, but are you kidding me? People in person lie all the time about the stupidest shit. And I can imagine your LSAT score in law school is probably one of the most common things lied about ever.

I always thought that people generally stopped talking about LSAT score once they're enrolled. Who are these people who ask their classmates what there LSAT score is? Who is randomly going to tell people what their LSAT score is?

I'm not in law school, yet anyways, but that seems like a normal thing to come up in conversation as it is something you have in common with these people. Same way GPA's and such come up occasionally in undergrad.

[DoubleChecks]

I'm not in law school, yet anyways, but that seems like a normal thing to come up in conversation as it is something you have in common with these people. Same way GPA's and such come up occasionally in undergrad.

lol who are you hanging out with? are these very good friends of yours? outside of a handful of very close friends, i dont ask or know their GPAs or standardized test scores haha

seems awkward to bring up doesnt it? or rather a bit nosy? like me asking how much their parents make lol

[Deuce]

I don't think a lot of people here lie; it is an internet forum so there is no benefit or no need to. In person, however, I know several people from my school that will say they got a 16X when they really scored a 156 or so.

How do you know this, and why would they do this?

How I would know- some are close friends. One friend we were together and checked our LSATs on the same computer when they were released; he got a 156. At the bars with other groups of 0Ls later in the week he was saying 162. I don't know why, maybe he really didn't like the 156, but 162 was his # he told other groups. Go figure.

[GettingReady2010]

I don't think a lot of people here lie; it is an internet forum so there is no benefit or no need to. In person, however, I know several people from my school that will say they got a 16X when they really scored a 156 or so.

How do you know this, and why would they do this?

How I would know- some are close friends. One friend we were together and checked our LSATs on the same computer when they were released; he got a 156. At the bars with other groups of 0Ls later in the week he was saying 162. I don't know why, maybe he really didn't like the 156, but 162 was his # he told other groups. Go figure.

You should called him out in front of everyone. Just kidding.