The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread Forum

[azaleafire]

Ok, question. So people on Reddit (idk why I'm even on there cause half of them don't even know anything) are under the impression that all LSAC has to do with our tests is scan them onto a computer and get the score...

But MY understanding is that they have to basically get everyone's answers, find any trends that may lead to thrown-out questions, adjust the scale, etc. I can see why this may be a timely process. 3 weeks? No...but definitely not a ~*bloop* send through scanner & you're done~ deal...

Can't imagine they'd make the scale ahead of time before seeing how actual participants perform to the difficulty levels...What do you guys think?

Hmm I didn't think about that. I suppose they would have to adjust for tossed questions (like if no one gets a question right, or if there is a complaint about it, etc.)

I wonder if they also go through the experimental stuff prior to releasing our scores, especially if they are close to "perfecting" a section and want to use it soon.

[fishpaste1]

Ok, question. So people on Reddit (idk why I'm even on there cause half of them don't even know anything) are under the impression that all LSAC has to do with our tests is scan them onto a computer and get the score...

But MY understanding is that they have to basically get everyone's answers, find any trends that may lead to thrown-out questions, adjust the scale, etc. I can see why this may be a timely process. 3 weeks? No...but definitely not a ~*bloop* send through scanner & you're done~ deal...

Can't imagine they'd make the scale ahead of time before seeing how actual participants perform to the difficulty levels...What do you guys think?

Pretty positive they set the scale before the test is administered... But I feel like that whole process is a nebulous and no one really knows how they set the scale or why scores take 3+ weeks to receive.

[MiamiHeat3]

Alright, triple-posted...gonna post one more time to be extra annoying.

Abbeytar has lost it.

[lizzielemon]

Ok, question. So people on Reddit (idk why I'm even on there cause half of them don't even know anything) are under the impression that all LSAC has to do with our tests is scan them onto a computer and get the score...

But MY understanding is that they have to basically get everyone's answers, find any trends that may lead to thrown-out questions, adjust the scale, etc. I can see why this may be a timely process. 3 weeks? No...but definitely not a ~*bloop* send through scanner & you're done~ deal...

Can't imagine they'd make the scale ahead of time before seeing how actual participants perform to the difficulty levels...What do you guys think?

Actually, speaking from a data analyst standpoint, it is as easy as pressing a button most likely because I build tools for my clients that basically are something similar.

Feed in data from scantrons into tool, and the tool populates all trends/averages/outliers for you. I think it's a matter of them just sorting through, and agreeing as a group which questions need to be thrown out, what curve should be it. Plus, they have to see complaints and see how many complaints come in, what percentage of tests that impacts, and which scores should be put on hold. That's the manual process within those 2-3 weeks.

Score calculation, etc - it's a 10 minute business because there are tools that can be built to calculate that for them.


(this is the most work-related I've talked in 2 weeks)

[MiamiHeat3]

Once we get to 100 things will start to happen. Start typing toads!

[AbbeyS]

Ok, question. So people on Reddit (idk why I'm even on there cause half of them don't even know anything) are under the impression that all LSAC has to do with our tests is scan them onto a computer and get the score...

But MY understanding is that they have to basically get everyone's answers, find any trends that may lead to thrown-out questions, adjust the scale, etc. I can see why this may be a timely process. 3 weeks? No...but definitely not a ~*bloop* send through scanner & you're done~ deal...

Can't imagine they'd make the scale ahead of time before seeing how actual participants perform to the difficulty levels...What do you guys think?

Pretty positive they set the scale before the test is administered... But I feel like that whole process is a nebulous and no one really knows how they set the scale or why scores take 3+ weeks to receive.

In a few of my prep books when they introduce the LSAT to you (which most people skip over but I have this weird thing about reading books cover-to-cover because I need to know everything) discussed the scale...I got the impression that it happens once they see how everyone actually performs. But then again, maybe they gauge it based on how people performed on them when they were in past experimental sections. Who knows.

[azaleafire]

If you get rejected from a school and get higher on a retake can they reconsider their decision or is the rejection final?

The rejection is typically final, although some schools have an appeal process within 30 days of rejection...depends on the school. Look on the school's website. I've never heard of anyone ever doing this so that's all I've got.

So I work at an admissions office (undergrad, not law school, please don't jump me) and I have never understood the logic behind people that call back to see if their decision can be redone. I know some schools will appease you and put you on the waitlist, but that is really, really unlikely to pan out. I would just let the by gones be by gones and if you really want to go there, transfer.

Again, not the most legitimate advice, but I'm also secretly trying to get us to 100 pages so you're the sacrificial lamb :p

[AbbeyS]

Alright, triple-posted...gonna post one more time to be extra annoying.

Abbeytar has lost it.

Pretty much

[MiamiHeat3]

Ok, question. So people on Reddit (idk why I'm even on there cause half of them don't even know anything) are under the impression that all LSAC has to do with our tests is scan them onto a computer and get the score...

But MY understanding is that they have to basically get everyone's answers, find any trends that may lead to thrown-out questions, adjust the scale, etc. I can see why this may be a timely process. 3 weeks? No...but definitely not a ~*bloop* send through scanner & you're done~ deal...

Can't imagine they'd make the scale ahead of time before seeing how actual participants perform to the difficulty levels...What do you guys think?

Pretty positive they set the scale before the test is administered... But I feel like that whole process is a nebulous and no one really knows how they set the scale or why scores take 3+ weeks to receive.

In a few of my prep books when they introduce the LSAT to you (which most people skip over but I have this weird thing about reading books cover-to-cover because I need to know everything) discussed the scale...I got the impression that it happens once they see how everyone actually performs. But then again, maybe they gauge it based on how people performed on them when they were in past experimental sections. Who knows.

I've always been under the impression that questions get reviewed once students start to complain, but again how will we complain if we don't get to see the exam?

[bmathers]

Ok, question. So people on Reddit (idk why I'm even on there cause half of them don't even know anything) are under the impression that all LSAC has to do with our tests is scan them onto a computer and get the score...

But MY understanding is that they have to basically get everyone's answers, find any trends that may lead to thrown-out questions, adjust the scale, etc. I can see why this may be a timely process. 3 weeks? No...but definitely not a ~*bloop* send through scanner & you're done~ deal...

Can't imagine they'd make the scale ahead of time before seeing how actual participants perform to the difficulty levels...What do you guys think?

Pretty positive they set the scale before the test is administered... But I feel like that whole process is a nebulous and no one really knows how they set the scale or why scores take 3+ weeks to receive.

In a few of my prep books when they introduce the LSAT to you (which most people skip over but I have this weird thing about reading books cover-to-cover because I need to know everything) discussed the scale...I got the impression that it happens once they see how everyone actually performs. But then again, maybe they gauge it based on how people performed on them when they were in past experimental sections. Who knows.

I've always been under the impression that questions get reviewed once students start to complain, but again how will we complain if we don't get to see the exam?

That's incorrect. If too many students miss any one question, it gets thrown out

[AbbeyS]

I'm so anxious right now that I'm procrastinating the gym. Usually I'd be ready to go and get my workout done...but I'm like eeee so nervous something is gonna happennnnn *refer to my avi for my face right now*

[Li'l Sebastian]

180 POASTS

i'm one proud ex-lurker

You're not an ex-lurker til we say you're an ex-lurker

I still remember your initiation AbbeyS!

[bmathers]

I don't lurk. I just jump in, but that's just me

[AbbeyS]

180 POASTS

i'm one proud ex-lurker

You're not an ex-lurker til we say you're an ex-lurker

I still remember your initiation AbbeyS!

Yeah I got "in" by being a bitch but what else is new

[AbbeyS]

^i'm kidding. I'm really nice. I'm just occasionally (read: often) sassy

[fishpaste1]

STILL GREEN

[TexasENG]

Too many poasts idk what's happening.

[azaleafire]

I'm so anxious right now that I'm procrastinating the gym. Usually I'd be ready to go and get my workout done...but I'm like eeee so nervous something is gonna happennnnn *refer to my avi for my face right now*

But if you go to the gym, then that's one more hour that you don't have to worry about your score. Chance are you won't get it for another couple hours anyway, if not tomorrow.

[bmathers]

STILL GREEN

Wouldn't that suck if you were really color blind and could only see the color green?

[fishpaste1]

^i'm kidding. I'm really nice. I'm just occasionally (read: often) sassy

what made you choose that avatar? I've always wondered this

[AbbeyS]

I'm so anxious right now that I'm procrastinating the gym. Usually I'd be ready to go and get my workout done...but I'm like eeee so nervous something is gonna happennnnn *refer to my avi for my face right now*

But if you go to the gym, then that's one more hour that you don't have to worry about your score. Chance are you won't get it for another couple hours anyway, if not tomorrow.

PLUS...exercise gives you endorphins. Endorphins make you happy. Happy people just don't kill their husbands. They just don't!

[fishpaste1]

STILL GREEN

Wouldn't that suck if you were really color blind and could only see the color green?

woah

[Shib26]

I AM A LURKER AND I AM SO F**** ANXIOUS RIGHT NOW AND YOU GUYS ARE MAKING IT WORSE JESUS H CHRIST

Good, good, let the anxiety flow through you

[bmathers]

I'm so anxious right now that I'm procrastinating the gym. Usually I'd be ready to go and get my workout done...but I'm like eeee so nervous something is gonna happennnnn *refer to my avi for my face right now*

But if you go to the gym, then that's one more hour that you don't have to worry about your score. Chance are you won't get it for another couple hours anyway, if not tomorrow.

Just take your phone to the gym, you'll be notified if you get a new email

[lizzielemon]

STILL GREEN

Wouldn't that suck if you were really color blind and could only see the color green?

woah

Omg. why would you say that