The Official June 2016 Study Group Forum

[abcdefg1234567]

Anyone else's lsac photo upload sideways???

Sorry dude, now you're gonna have to turn up at your testing center sideways

HAHAHAHA +1

Lol - mine is not sideways, but the picture quality SUCKS when I print it...

FML...I'm gonna bring my passport photo to the eat center anyways. I've tried to reupload and it always turns it sideways. "Sorry sir, this looks nothing like you" (my nightmare)

[ponderingmeerkat]

that g4 is brutal. it doesn't have any good inferences up front and so you are pretty much left to brute force. iirc it took me 15+ min the first time to do it and it may take still that long today.

Yea man...I've been working on determining when a game will be "rule driven" as 7Sage says. I've noticed of late LSAC has been producing games (typically G3 or G4 in the section) which yield very few initial inferences. It's been a battle to break away from my LG Bible and 7Sage habit patterns of trying to punch out some hypo game boards or mine inferences. Of late, I've noticed some marginal improvements when I simply say "fuck this...it's going to go down the hard way" and get to cranking out brute force solutions.

Just like when you're at the club, sometimes it pays to go ugly early.

[ac8876a]

Anyone else's lsac photo upload sideways???

Sorry dude, now you're gonna have to turn up at your testing center sideways

HAHAHAHA +1

Lol - mine is not sideways, but the picture quality SUCKS when I print it...

FML...I'm gonna bring my passport photo to the eat center anyways. I've tried to reupload and it always turns it sideways. "Sorry sir, this looks nothing like you" (my nightmare)

called them and they said it was fine, orientation does not matter for the photo

[Hennessy]

Anyone else take PT 68 recently? I took it and it was lefitimately the hardest test I've taken yet.

I went -6, -9, -4, -2 for a scaled score of 164. First RC fucked me up (game 4, with the water bill discrepencies, the other three games were about par for the course for me), then LR FUCKED me up. And I haven't gone -4 in Games in forever (it was that stupid maintenence company game with loosely defined terms).

I'm mad as fuck right now trying to reviews my answers.

Yea dude took it the other day. I ended up -3 on LG...it was a tough section. I did well on RC but I chalk that up to having an econ minor in undergrad and an MBA with a focus in econ so the Pin Factory Econ RC section that was supposed to be the "tough" passage was cake for me. Next time, when it's latina feminist literature on the !Kung's anthropological dinosaur connection, I'll probably shit the bed.

Chalk it up man...I was super down last week when I dropped a 165 on a test. But I put a bunch of 169's on the board this week. So, I'm sure you'll bounce back too.

See i would ace that - Black Studies / Poli Sci double major

[Hennessy]

that g4 is brutal. it doesn't have any good inferences up front and so you are pretty much left to brute force. iirc it took me 15+ min the first time to do it and it may take still that long today.

Yea man...I've been working on determining when a game will be "rule driven" as 7Sage says. I've noticed of late LSAC has been producing games (typically G3 or G4 in the section) which yield very few initial inferences. It's been a battle to break away from my LG Bible and 7Sage habit patterns of trying to punch out some hypo game boards or mine inferences. Of late, I've noticed some marginal improvements when I simply say "fuck this...it's going to go down the hard way" and get to cranking out brute force solutions.

Just like when you're at the club, sometimes it pays to go ugly early.

That box-checking approach to answers fucks me up a lot - if I haven't fully gotten the inferences from the rules, and I start just plugging in answers to the gameboard, I invariably miss something and end up crossing off the right answer.

[abcdefg1234567]

Just like when you're at the club, sometimes it pays to go ugly early.

[ayylmao]

Just like when you're at the club, sometimes it pays to go ugly early.

Ayy lmao

[ayylmao]

PT 66:

176

LR: -2
LG: -2
RC: -1

I haven't been in this score band in about 6 weeks, and it feels great to recapture the magic after a disheartening dip. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but I think doing 3 PTs a week and little else is helping me. I'm totally immersed in the test right now so my mental muscles don't have time to atrophy, but I don't feel burned out. Let's hope I, and you all, are peaking at the right time.

Edited to reflect my mis-scoring. Actually a 176. Still fine.

[appind]

I have absolutely no recollection of RC from Dec, but I went -4 on it; -3/-0 on LR and -3 on LG (I think that's right?). Game 3 threw me off, but I actually only missed one on it--I just took so much time doing it that I had to guess on the last two questions of game 4. And yeah, I think the surest way to be solidly above 170 is to be near-perfect on LG and every other section needs to be -3 or better.
I don't have much of an approach to RC, but this most recent time around I didn't do any markup, I just took my time with the passages. Oh, I also saved the passage with fewest questions for last. Even coming out of it I didn't feel great about it, but I answered every question comfortably, without having to rush which I think is the biggest key to RC.

i still have to analyze (and see the ones i missed) from my actual dec administration, but even though i under-performed in rc by guessing on 1 whole passage, it ended up being better than expected rc performance at -5. i think i missed most in lg3, but don't know for sure.

i guess i should take a look at my misses from IRR of dec, but so far have been hesitant to do so to keep pt-77 as something close to fresh.

any point in trying to analyze actual IRR? if i review it too closely, then it will cease to be an almost-fresh test and i am running out of fresh tests.

[appind]

PT 66:

176

LR: -2
LG: -2
RC: -1

I haven't been in this score band in about 6 weeks, and it feels great to recapture the magic after a disheartening dip. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but I think doing 3 PTs a week and little else is helping me. I'm totally immersed in the test right now so my mental muscles don't have time to atrophy, but I don't feel burned out. Let's hope I, and you all, are peaking at the right time.

Edited to reflect my mis-scoring. Actually a 176. Still fine.

nice comeback..

fresh test?

[appind]

that g4 is brutal. it doesn't have any good inferences up front and so you are pretty much left to brute force. iirc it took me 15+ min the first time to do it and it may take still that long today.

Yea man...I've been working on determining when a game will be "rule driven" as 7Sage says. I've noticed of late LSAC has been producing games (typically G3 or G4 in the section) which yield very few initial inferences. It's been a battle to break away from my LG Bible and 7Sage habit patterns of trying to punch out some hypo game boards or mine inferences. Of late, I've noticed some marginal improvements when I simply say "fuck this...it's going to go down the hard way" and get to cranking out brute force solutions.

Just like when you're at the club, sometimes it pays to go ugly early.

That box-checking approach to answers fucks me up a lot - if I haven't fully gotten the inferences from the rules, and I start just plugging in answers to the gameboard, I invariably miss something and end up crossing off the right answer.

what's a rule-driven game?

[ayylmao]

PT 66:

176

LR: -2
LG: -2
RC: -1

I haven't been in this score band in about 6 weeks, and it feels great to recapture the magic after a disheartening dip. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but I think doing 3 PTs a week and little else is helping me. I'm totally immersed in the test right now so my mental muscles don't have time to atrophy, but I don't feel burned out. Let's hope I, and you all, are peaking at the right time.

Edited to reflect my mis-scoring. Actually a 176. Still fine.

nice comeback..

fresh test?

fresh till death

[pretzeltime]

17 days!!!

[forum_user]

I have absolutely no recollection of RC from Dec, but I went -4 on it; -3/-0 on LR and -3 on LG (I think that's right?). Game 3 threw me off, but I actually only missed one on it--I just took so much time doing it that I had to guess on the last two questions of game 4. And yeah, I think the surest way to be solidly above 170 is to be near-perfect on LG and every other section needs to be -3 or better.
I don't have much of an approach to RC, but this most recent time around I didn't do any markup, I just took my time with the passages. Oh, I also saved the passage with fewest questions for last. Even coming out of it I didn't feel great about it, but I answered every question comfortably, without having to rush which I think is the biggest key to RC.

i still have to analyze (and see the ones i missed) from my actual dec administration, but even though i under-performed in rc by guessing on 1 whole passage, it ended up being better than expected rc performance at -5. i think i missed most in lg3, but don't know for sure.

i guess i should take a look at my misses from IRR of dec, but so far have been hesitant to do so to keep pt-77 as something close to fresh.

any point in trying to analyze actual IRR? if i review it too closely, then it will cease to be an almost-fresh test and i am running out of fresh tests.

I checked over it as soon as scores came out, but that was a few months ago at this point and I didn't do anything near a proper review--so it still is somewhat fresh for me. Like I still remember lemurs and gold mines, but overall I think it'll be just like any old retake. I'm planning on doing it this Saturday and I'm a bit concerned I won't perform as well on LR as I did previously haha

[forum_user]

17 days!!!

[ayylmao]

17 days!!!

It's PT 78.

[Mikey]

17 days!!!

It's PT 78.

[pretzeltime]

17 days!!!

It's PT 78.

Eep, sorry, didn't mean to set a freak out in motion.

I'm just one of those people who would rather get something over with ASAP. Wish I could take the test tomorrow.

[carasrook]

17 days!!!

It's PT 78.

Eep, sorry, didn't mean to set a freak out in motion.

I'm just one of those people who would rather get something over with ASAP. Wish I could take the test tomorrow.

Reading the instructions on the back of the ticket really psyched me out. I hadn't felt nervous at all until I read them

[Hennessy]

17 days!!!

It's PT 78.

Eep, sorry, didn't mean to set a freak out in motion.

I'm just one of those people who would rather get something over with ASAP. Wish I could take the test tomorrow.

Reading the instructions on the back of the ticket really psyched me out. I hadn't felt nervous at all until I read them

goddamnit goddamnit goddamnit goddamnit

[Shakawkaw]

Study study study holed up in library all tomorrow.

Thought you were gallivanting across the 'merkas, Rigo.

[Rigo]

Study study study holed up in library all tomorrow.

Thought you were gallivanting across the 'merkas, Rigo.

bitch you don't know my life

[appind]

that g4 is brutal. it doesn't have any good inferences up front and so you are pretty much left to brute force. iirc it took me 15+ min the first time to do it and it may take still that long today.

Yea man...I've been working on determining when a game will be "rule driven" as 7Sage says. I've noticed of late LSAC has been producing games (typically G3 or G4 in the section) which yield very few initial inferences. It's been a battle to break away from my LG Bible and 7Sage habit patterns of trying to punch out some hypo game boards or mine inferences. Of late, I've noticed some marginal improvements when I simply say "fuck this...it's going to go down the hard way" and get to cranking out brute force solutions.

Just like when you're at the club, sometimes it pays to go ugly early.

anyone has solid approach for figuring out when to begin brute-forcing and when to spend more time looking for inferences?

[carasrook]

i have a really nice collection of dinosaur extinction theories stored up at this point

[Hennessy]

that g4 is brutal. it doesn't have any good inferences up front and so you are pretty much left to brute force. iirc it took me 15+ min the first time to do it and it may take still that long today.

Yea man...I've been working on determining when a game will be "rule driven" as 7Sage says. I've noticed of late LSAC has been producing games (typically G3 or G4 in the section) which yield very few initial inferences. It's been a battle to break away from my LG Bible and 7Sage habit patterns of trying to punch out some hypo game boards or mine inferences. Of late, I've noticed some marginal improvements when I simply say "fuck this...it's going to go down the hard way" and get to cranking out brute force solutions.

Just like when you're at the club, sometimes it pays to go ugly early.

anyone has solid approach for figuring out when to begin brute-forcing and when to spend more time looking for inferences?

yeah,

- usually a sequencing game
- if the first question after the orientation question requires you to plug in "answers" in order to determine which are right and wrong, you should probably just start doing it