The Official September 2014 Study Group Forum

flash21 · Post by **flash21** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:14 pm

ha!

Just got my first perfect LR section, but admitted there was about 3-4 guesses between 2 answers choices within those questions that I got correct which helped, and I reviewed them earlier. Nice to see what happens when those questions you reduce down to 2 answer choices go your way. Usually sitting at about -4,-6.

Colonel_funkadunk · Post by **Colonel_funkadunk** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:41 pm

I just did PT65 which was the test I sat for in dec 2011 and got a 163. I haven't looked at any problems from it since the day I took my test almost 3 years ago.

I got a 167.

LR1: -3
LG: -2
RC: -9
LR2: -3

I'm happy I made improvements in LR but RC is really frustrating. My sections fluctuate between -3 and -9. If anybody has any tips that'd be great. I did -0 the experimental games Cambridge threw in so I guess that's something lol.

flash21 · Post by **flash21** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:13 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:I just did PT65 which was the test I sat for in dec 2011 and got a 163. I haven't looked at any problems from it since the day I took my test almost 3 years ago.

I got a 167.

LR1: -3
LG: -2
RC: -9
LR2: -3

I'm happy I made improvements in LR but RC is really frustrating. My sections fluctuate between -3 and -9. If anybody has any tips that'd be great. I did -0 the experimental games Cambridge threw in so I guess that's something lol.

wow, sounds like if you got your reading comp consistently in the lower range you'd be in a great position

lsatkillah · Post by **lsatkillah** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:41 pm

flash21 · Post by **flash21** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:54 pm

lsatkillah wrote:PT64: 170
LG: -2 (including 2 unfinished)
LR: -2, -5 (including 2 unfinished)
RC: -4

WHY DO I STILL HAVE TIMING ISSUES.
LR: I stick to first 15 in 15 minutes. The later questions in the section seem to slow me down.
LG: Gaining a better handle of LG, going under 8min45sec on the easier ones, but apparently still not affording enough compensation for the more difficult problems.

I don't notice anyone else here mentioning any unfinished problems. I choose not to guess randomly on the remaining ones, but regardless, I assume a great many of you LSAT wizards can give all of them a good read through. How!!!!!??

lol I feel your pain,

BRB drilling logic games for months relentlessly, still -7 , everyone else raging after getting -1

Gray · Post by **Gray** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:16 pm

mmorrell94 · Post by **mmorrell94** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:24 pm

PT 51 - 172 (!!!)

LR1 - 2
LR2 - 2
RC - 5 (someone kill me)
LG - 0 (!!!)

Pretty stoked to tie my previous high of 172, and considering that was just two tests ago I'm feeling confident that that isn't just a lucky occurrence or something that's out of my reach. I have no idea wtf happened on RC though, and while I used to think that was my best I'm now realizing it's my most inconsistent. Hopefully with more consistent drilling I'll be able to get better and better at those.

flash21 · Post by **flash21** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:20 pm

would appreciate some advice PLEASE.

I am going to write in December, do you guys think there is any sense in me doing a PT anytime soon? Or just continue drilling? For reference, I have not done a full PT for many months.

One side of me is straight up scared to take one.

The other side is convincing myself it might actually not be useful since I can just use that time drilling instead and my actual test date is pretty far away.

Any thoughts here?

hillz · Post by **hillz** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:28 pm

flash21 wrote:would appreciate some advice PLEASE.

I am going to write in December, do you guys think there is any sense in me doing a PT anytime soon? Or just continue drilling? For reference, I have not done a full PT for many months.

One side of me is straight up scared to take one.

The other side is convincing myself it might actually not be useful since I can just use that time drilling instead and my actual test date is pretty far away.

Any thoughts here?

Drilling is great, but I think you should still get in the habit of doing a PT regularly. You'll be able to see your progress (which should motivate you) and figure out what you need to do, i.e. if there is a section you should drilling more than others or a specific type of question you need to practice.

Take a PT! I bet you'll feel better and not so anxious because you'll at least know where you stand.

hillz · Post by **hillz** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:29 pm

But I know how you feel, because I totally get anxious before I take a PT.

flash21 · Post by **flash21** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:41 pm

hillz wrote:But I know how you feel, because I totally get anxious before I take a PT.

I've been doing sections out of PT's, but I haven't done a full one yet for a very long time. I might do one soon, but I don't know about consistently yet. I might start consistently, 2x a week in September? I may do one sometime soon to see where I'm at doing it timed as a test though.. still scared for some reason even though been drilling for a while.

hillz · Post by **hillz** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:18 pm

flash21 wrote:
hillz wrote:But I know how you feel, because I totally get anxious before I take a PT.
I've been doing sections out of PT's, but I haven't done a full one yet for a very long time. I might do one soon, but I don't know about consistently yet. I might start consistently, 2x a week in September? I may do one sometime soon to see where I'm at doing it timed as a test though.. still scared for some reason even though been drilling for a while.

I bet you'll do better than you think! I was scared to do one after the June test but then when I did, I scored 7 points higher than my June score and it motivated me to keep studying for September.

gnomgnomuch · Post by **gnomgnomuch** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:04 pm

Well, took PT 46.

Raw score: 83
Scaled score: 164

RC - -5, Seemed much harder than usual. The first passage was a joke, 2nd wasn't terrible, but the 3rd and 4th really threw me for some reason.

LR #1 - -2. Very pleased.

LR #2 - -5. Less pleased, but not too upset. Unfortunately, right around where my average is. Need to really cut it down to the -2 range.

LG - 4. I redid the section (I did it my first time at work, where people were around and it was super loud). Flew by 1-3 again (with perfect score this time) and really messed up # 4. I replayed the game like 3 times, and I think i'm good on it now, that wording in the answer choices caused me to diagram the all the conditional questions incorrectly.

Need to print out NA, + and PF packets and drill. Every single mistake I made in this LSAT came from those question types.

A perfect LG section seems more attainable now.

Also, does anyone have a packet of really open ended games for LG? Those are my biggest weakness. Thanks.

valen · Post by **valen** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:55 pm

When you guys drill out of the Cambridge packets do you go in order? Or do you jump around/sequentially? I know they get progressively more difficult, so I'm not sure which would be better.

mornincounselor · Post by **mornincounselor** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:03 am

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Colonel_funkadunk · Post by **Colonel_funkadunk** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:17 am

mornincounselor wrote:I go straight through Valen. Other people like to do an assortment of difficulties similar to what they might see on a real section.

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Ugh, I thought I was seeing improvements on RC but damn PT 33 just kicked my ass. -11 | -1, -2, -6 (science/global warming), -2. Haven't thoroughly reviewed yet. Used the 7sage app with distractions and background on two. Also had no clock so my only warning was 5 mins. The timing didn't seem to affect me (warning went off 2 questions into last passage) but maybe it caused me to rush in passage 3.

I feel the same way, I got -9 on pt65 RC today. It's frustrating when all my other sections were under -3.

lsatdream · Post by **lsatdream** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:28 am

gnomgnomuch wrote:Well, took PT 46.

Raw score: 83
Scaled score: 164

RC - -5, Seemed much harder than usual. The first passage was a joke, 2nd wasn't terrible, but the 3rd and 4th really threw me for some reason.

LR #1 - -2. Very pleased.

LR #2 - -5. Less pleased, but not too upset. Unfortunately, right around where my average is. Need to really cut it down to the -2 range.

LG - 4. I redid the section (I did it my first time at work, where people were around and it was super loud). Flew by 1-3 again (with perfect score this time) and really messed up # 4. I replayed the game like 3 times, and I think i'm good on it now, that wording in the answer choices caused me to diagram the all the conditional questions incorrectly.

Need to print out NA, + and PF packets and drill. Every single mistake I made in this LSAT came from those question types.

A perfect LG section seems more attainable now.

Also, does anyone have a packet of really open ended games for LG? Those are my biggest weakness. Thanks.

Just took the same PT yesterday and I completely agree about that RC section. The last passage about legal theory was so convoluted I laughed halfway through.

mornincounselor · Post by **mornincounselor** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:25 pm

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Toby Ziegler · Post by **Toby Ziegler** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:52 pm

mornincounselor wrote:Tried out the reading the first sentence of each paragraph first trick today and it seemed to work out well for me. Just went -3 on PT 34. (-0, -0, -3 (science/differential evolution), -0)

I still seem to be all over the place with RC sections.

If you will, elaborate on this method.

mornincounselor · Post by **mornincounselor** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:55 pm

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Toby Ziegler · Post by **Toby Ziegler** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:55 pm

Drilling all level 1 and 2 flaw questions today.

Gray · Post by **Gray** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:18 pm

Colonel_funkadunk · Post by **Colonel_funkadunk** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:53 pm

I need to review yesterday's PT today. I just suck at reviewing PTs though.

flash21 · Post by **flash21** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:29 pm

holy shit guys.

Just got a 163 on my first PT in many months, I had a 139 diagnostic almost a year ago. PT 44, had some major distractions going on too. I think I actually could have done better, but I basically got screwed since people were talking a lot during where I was testing. Happened during the first section, which is RC, and of course I bombed this section the worst, not so bad though, usually get somewhere between 20-22.

Breakdown:

RC: -9
LR 1: -3
LR 2: -3
LG:-4

Feels pretty good. Was scared as hell to even take it lol. I felt kind of tired and irritable all day too, I think next time I PT if I feel a bit better I could maybe even do better, didnt think I'd be saying that any time soon. Going to take in December, hopefully I can get to the mid to high 160's, and if I break 170 on a timed test I'll probably lose my shit.

EDIT: experimental section

RC (since I'd hate this on the real test), PT 37

-6. This is about what I normally get on RC.

hillz · Post by **hillz** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:45 pm

flash21 wrote:holy shit guys.

Just got a 163 on my first PT in many months, I had a 139 diagnostic almost a year ago. PT 44, had some major distractions going on too. I think I actually could have done better, but I basically got screwed since people were talking a lot during where I was testing. Happened during the first section, which is RC, and of course I bombed this section the worst, not so bad though, usually get somewhere between 20-22.

Breakdown:

RC: -9
LR 1: -3
LR 2: -3
LG:-4

Feels pretty good. Was scared as hell to even take it lol. I felt kind of tired and irritable all day too, I think next time I PT if I feel a bit better I could maybe even do better, didnt think I'd be saying that any time soon. Going to take in December, hopefully I can get to the mid to high 160's, and if I break 170 on a timed test I'll probably lose my shit.

EDIT: experimental section

RC (since I'd hate this on the real test), PT 37

-6. This is about what I normally get on RC.

Nice! Keep it up.