real The Official December 2016 Waiters Group - Patience is a Virtue Forum

[34iplaw]

PT 66 - 179

RC - 2
LR1 - 0
LG -0
LR2 -0


I took this one on a plane with no headphones in, so I'm definitely starting to get better at taking them in distracting places. I really think that hurt me in September so that's promising. Asterisk by the 179 though because it was a retake from about 5 months ago, but I'm mostly just happy that I didn't let the family with 4 kids running up and down the aisles throw me off my game.

Samesies, but my flight went way faster than normal so I still need to do the last LR section. Super low on sleep today, and I definitely feel sluggish. Will be interesting to see score.

[Greenteachurro]

probably only do a hell packet of LG and maybe some RC today. What is everyone else doing today?

[34iplaw]

probably only do a hell packet of LG and maybe some RC today. What is everyone else doing today?

Too tired today. Only slept two hours last night and did 3/4PT on flight, but it landed early. Came back to the LR later in day.

PT69

LR1 -2
LG -1
RC -1
LR2 -3

Great RC for me, lower end of LR.

Also did 62 Games. Actually a hard games IMO or seemed long. I hit my timer off by accident so I didn't get a great grip on timing. That said, I flew through the stained glass game like never before. Didn't split worlds and found it easy.

Writing some solutions to games for my site I'm working on.

[dj9i27]

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[dontsaywhatyoumean]

Did PT 71 today (I think it was 71), 162, but -6 LR, and -8 LR! WHAT. That's literally more than twice what I average in wrong answers on LR. One LR PT can't be that much harder right?

I only need 158, so not hugely concerning, but man, I only took like 4 days off of LR.

Each section seemed incredibly difficult (I can't stress enough how normally I feel like almost every question is so easy, except for maybe 2-3, and here it felt so hard. I couldn't really understand the arguments, and the answers didn't pop out like they usually do), and I must have bubbled at least that many questions on each section indicating questions I was uncertain about.

[dj9i27]

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[dontsaywhatyoumean]

Did PT 71 today (I think it was 71), 162, but -6 LR, and -8 LR! WHAT. That's literally more than twice what I average in wrong answers on LR. One LR PT can't be that much harder right?

I only need 158, so not hugely concerning, but man, I only took like 4 days off of LR.

Each section seemed incredibly difficult (I can't stress enough how normally I feel like almost every question is so easy, except for maybe 2-3, and here it felt so hard. I couldn't really understand the arguments, and the answers didn't pop out like they usually do), and I must have bubbled at least that many questions on each section indicating questions I was uncertain about.

I think you're fine, you have the capability just don't freak out on test day; I babied out and took a half off day today only doing an RC and LR section so you're more productive than me. 71 has a huge curve doesn't it? that could be why the questions felt hard.

Actually, it was 70.

Unrelated question, but in this game,
https://7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsa ... -3-game-2/

For question 8, "Which one of the following is a possible selection of employees for the team?", am I supposed to interpret that as the only employees selected for the team? Meaning everyone else is not selected.

I got the question right, so maybe? I thought they're usually more precise with language though.

[dj9i27]

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[34iplaw]

Did PT 71 today (I think it was 71), 162, but -6 LR, and -8 LR! WHAT. That's literally more than twice what I average in wrong answers on LR. One LR PT can't be that much harder right?

I only need 158, so not hugely concerning, but man, I only took like 4 days off of LR.

Each section seemed incredibly difficult (I can't stress enough how normally I feel like almost every question is so easy, except for maybe 2-3, and here it felt so hard. I couldn't really understand the arguments, and the answers didn't pop out like they usually do), and I must have bubbled at least that many questions on each section indicating questions I was uncertain about.

I think you're fine, you have the capability just don't freak out on test day; I babied out and took a half off day today only doing an RC and LR section so you're more productive than me. 71 has a huge curve doesn't it? that could be why the questions felt hard.

Actually, it was 70.

Unrelated question, but in this game,
https://7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsa ... -3-game-2/

For question 8, "Which one of the following is a possible selection of employees for the team?", am I supposed to interpret that as the only employees selected for the team? Meaning everyone else is not selected.

I got the question right, so maybe? I thought they're usually more precise with language though.

it is just another acceptable situation question, did you have issues with it or nah just tripped up on the language?

So, I'm not that familiar with the particular question, but it sounds like an in out game. I would just say that for certain games the unlisted items *can* be the reason an answer choice doesn't work out... I've even seen a game or two where you need to consider the out group to do the first question. It's possible the language of the question was just trying to clue you in to remember the out group.

[dontsaywhatyoumean]

I got it right, but I thought they were trying to indicate (like Ip said) the relevance of the out group by not mentioning only.

So that's what I looked for, but I eventually just treated it as if it was an exhaustive list of those included.

Edit, I see 7Sage diagrammed it differently, but I got everything else right on that game, including that question.

But I thought they were being clever with the language so I spent longer than I should have trying to be careful not to fall into a trap (I didn't want to assume the list was exhaustive, even though it seems like it is).

It is in/out



Edit 2, yeah, I don't see any other way other than assuming it's exhaustive. That seems at least mildly unfair given the LSAT's historical emphasis on the significance of terms like "only".

[Instrumental]

All right guys, I'm going to need a volunteer to roll my fat ass into the test center next Saturday. Oh god I ate so much.

[34iplaw]

All right guys, I'm going to need a volunteer to roll my fat ass into the test center next Saturday. Oh god I ate so much.

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[Instrumental]

laughing hurts. please no.

[Mikey]

laughing hurts. please no.

I'm laying down on the couch just on my phone feeling like a complete fat fuck. No regrets tho.

[dj9i27]

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[StopLawying]

Virus game wasn't as bad as people made it out to be, but taking the test at home instead of having this as your actual test makes a huge difference.
I actually thought Games 2 and 3 on this test were pretty difficult, very open ended and time consuming. Only had like 8 minutes for the virus game so went -2 on the section. Needed a few more minutes for that game. But games are definitely getting much harder. Damn, this whole test is.

[dj9i27]

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[Mikey]

Virus game wasn't as bad as people made it out to be, but taking the test at home instead of having this as your actual test makes a huge difference.
I actually thought Games 2 and 3 on this test were pretty difficult, very open ended and time consuming. Only had like 8 minutes for the virus game so went -2 on the section. Needed a few more minutes for that game. But games are definitely getting much harder. Damn, this whole test is.

I haven't touched 79 and won't until tuesday since it is my last PT but, you are right about seeing that on test day not thinking you will. It shakes you up but now, I'm somewhat prepared for it.

I couldn't figure it out on test day but now that i look at it, it really really REALLY does not seem that bad. Spoiler, kind of?? -->

[+] Spoiler

I honestly still think game 3 was kind of harder than viruses

[Mikey]

Going to be drilling some NA questions today but un-timed. I will be trying out this new approach in which i cover up the answers and put a piece of paper (i don't have any sticky notes so whatevs) and i anticipate and write now what i think the right answer should be. I already try to do anticipate answers as much as i can, but this is just something i want to experiment with!

[StopLawying]

Going to be drilling some NA questions today but un-timed. I will be trying out this new approach in which i cover up the answers and put a piece of paper (i don't have any sticky notes so whatevs) and i anticipate and write now what i think the right answer should be. I already try to do anticipate answers as much as i can, but this is just something i want to experiment with!

Think this is a great idea. I drilled NA like crazy and it's my best question type now, I rarely miss any.

[34iplaw]

Virus game wasn't as bad as people made it out to be, but taking the test at home instead of having this as your actual test makes a huge difference.
I actually thought Games 2 and 3 on this test were pretty difficult, very open ended and time consuming. Only had like 8 minutes for the virus game so went -2 on the section. Needed a few more minutes for that game. But games are definitely getting much harder. Damn, this whole test is.

I haven't touched 79 and won't until tuesday since it is my last PT but, you are right about seeing that on test day not thinking you will. It shakes you up but now, I'm somewhat prepared for it.

I couldn't figure it out on test day but now that i look at it, it really really REALLY does not seem that bad. Spoiler, kind of?? -->

[+] Spoiler

I honestly still think game 3 was kind of harder than viruses

I definitely agree that 3 was harder than viruses.

[Mikey]

Going to be drilling some NA questions today but un-timed. I will be trying out this new approach in which i cover up the answers and put a piece of paper (i don't have any sticky notes so whatevs) and i anticipate and write now what i think the right answer should be. I already try to do anticipate answers as much as i can, but this is just something i want to experiment with!

Think this is a great idea. I drilled NA like crazy and it's my best question type now, I rarely miss any.

SA are my best, i never miss them unless i really really don't pay attention and glance over something. NA are ok to me, but i still miss some at times. What's your worst Q type??

[Mikey]

Virus game wasn't as bad as people made it out to be, but taking the test at home instead of having this as your actual test makes a huge difference.
I actually thought Games 2 and 3 on this test were pretty difficult, very open ended and time consuming. Only had like 8 minutes for the virus game so went -2 on the section. Needed a few more minutes for that game. But games are definitely getting much harder. Damn, this whole test is.

I haven't touched 79 and won't until tuesday since it is my last PT but, you are right about seeing that on test day not thinking you will. It shakes you up but now, I'm somewhat prepared for it.

I couldn't figure it out on test day but now that i look at it, it really really REALLY does not seem that bad. Spoiler, kind of?? -->

[+] Spoiler

I honestly still think game 3 was kind of harder than viruses

I definitely agree that 3 was harder than viruses.

Amen. It was so time consuming and really screwed me, still went -1 on that game :/

[connordalto]

Bout to take PT 79 for the first time woooooooo lets see how this LG goes

[connordalto]

When are you guys taking your last PT next week? I'm debating Wednesday/Thursday... think a solid 2 day break could actually do more help than harm tho at this point