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Post by sfoglia » Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:02 pm

BP Ben wrote:
sfoglia wrote: I'm not YS material, so I really don't know much about the two. I know historically Yale has disliked retakes, but I didn't think that would apply in quite the same way if your first take was a high score. You know, you demonstrate excellency and then you demonstrate near perfection vs. you demonstrate competency and then you demonstrate excellency, kind of thing.
I really don't think it's true that Yale "dislikes" retakes. They just take a slightly less rigidly positive view of them, since Yale doesn't worry about medians in the way that other schools do. In a webinar with Asha last year, someone asked about this. Her response was that when they're looking at multiple LSATs, they use all of the other components of the application to decide which score reflects the applicant's true potential. I don't think that was just a line. It makes a lot of sense. Yale doesn't need to favor the highest score, but they do have an interest in figuring out what the scores say about the applicant in general. Eta: Because numbers can't get you into Yale. Numbers can only keep you out of Yale.

In this hypo, I could see how retaking a 175 for a 180 might signal that the applicant is a little neurotic, and probably just interested in collecting gold rings. But I'm just speculating.
You're the best. Thank you, too, for the explanation.

(In my next life, when I 175 it, I can now be sure not to retake. Haha. :) )

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by JackelJ » Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:12 pm

I'm going to try positive reenforcement to cure my TLS addiction because I need to start doing productive things. Every time I get off TLS I get chocolate.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:13 pm

Stop trying to make "yinz" happen. It's not going to happen.

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Post by nlee10 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:14 pm

zacboro wrote:So IIRC Nlee was the one who said he printed out two LSN charts, one with his current score and one with a higher score and hung them up as motivation for retaking. Well just to let yinz know I did the same today. I ranged 165-168 and then 170-173 on LSN. Both with my real GPA. The difference in green vs. red is incredible. I think that a 170-173 score is realistic score for me for a retake (I was averaging low 170s right before Feb) so I like this incentive, its attainable. Aside from Georgetown and Cornell the acceptance percentages with my current score are extremely low, but with this jump the numbers shoot right up! Thanks for the idea Nlee!
Nope wasn't me. lol.
But that is a great idea so I'll do that too.
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Post by Shakawkaw » Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:21 pm

Dirigo wrote:BP Ben outing himself as a wannabe Yalie.
Don't we all? Play nice, Rigo.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:23 pm

Shakawkaw wrote:
Dirigo wrote:BP Ben outing himself as a wannabe Yalie.
Don't we all? Play nice, Rigo.
Be quiet.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by sfoglia » Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:23 pm

zacboro wrote:So IIRC Nlee was the one who said he printed out two LSN charts, one with his current score and one with a higher score and hung them up as motivation for retaking. Well just to let yinz know I did the same today. I ranged 165-168 and then 170-173 on LSN. Both with my real GPA. The difference in green vs. red is incredible. I think that a 170-173 score is realistic score for me for a retake (I was averaging low 170s right before Feb) so I like this incentive, its attainable. Aside from Georgetown and Cornell the acceptance percentages with my current score are extremely low, but with this jump the numbers shoot right up! Thanks for the idea Nlee!
Was looking at LSN graphs this morning, too. More green, less red!

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Post by NonTradLawHopeful » Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:32 pm

I am very glad to see this thread has picked up with the Febber's, but GAHHHHHHHH, I can't keep up anymore during a work day!!!

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Post by gatorgirl94 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:10 pm

Another Febber checking in!
zacboro wrote:
Dirigo wrote:Stop trying to make "yinz" happen. It's not going to happen.
I'm not trying to make it happen, it's just how I speak. Rigo...
I for one don't think yinz is going to happen either but Zacbro your dialect is just kind of cute anyway :P

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by Shakawkaw » Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:22 pm

Pt 19-S4-Q9:
(C) wrote: Neither Neptune nor Pluto is as massive as Uranus.
Oh no he didn'ttttttt.

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Hi Everyone! I have been lurking around here for a while. I finally decided to post and join the likes of me :D

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Post by Rigo » Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:26 pm

Ihasthedumb wrote:I finally decided to post and join the likes of me :D
Welcome, but what does that even mean?

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Post by kang » Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:27 pm

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kang wrote:Lol I'll go with RZ's definition

ETA: jk. And what does TTT stand for?
for all your abbreviation/acronym needs:
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... =2&t=18478
woahhh. THANK YOU! :mrgreen:

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Post by Ihasthedumb » Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:29 pm

Dirigo wrote:
Ihasthedumb wrote:I finally decided to post and join the likes of me :D
Welcome, but what does that even mean?
Studying for the June LSAT!

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Post by chaipancakes » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:16 pm

Hi guys! I mainly lurked in the Feb waiters thread, but I'm almost set on the June retake and figured I'd be less lurky here. Got a 167 in February and I'm shooting for a 170-173 in June. Got three months to make it happen I guess. :)

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by JackelJ » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:35 pm

I'm just going to leave this here: https://downthelegalrabbithole.wordpres ... appy-hour/


also welcome pancakes, I hope June goes better for you

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by chaipancakes » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:42 pm

JackelJ wrote:I'm just going to leave this here: https://downthelegalrabbithole.wordpres ... appy-hour/


also welcome pancakes, I hope June goes better for you
Thank you!!

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by betterLawyerUP » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:34 pm

How do you guys represent A and B have at least two spots between them, regardless of order

So, A_ _ B with a switch but it needs to be altered to allow the possibility of being further apart. Feel free to share your symbol for this relationship (I have seen how some books do it but i didnt like their methods).

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Post by NonTradLawHopeful » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:37 pm

betterLawyerUP wrote:How do you guys represent A and B have at least two spots between them, regardless of order

So, A_ _ B with a switch but it needs to be altered to allow the possibility of being further apart. Feel free to share your symbol for this relationship (I have seen how some books do it but i didnt like their methods).
A_ _ ...B with a switch

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by nlee10 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:39 pm

NonTradLawHopeful wrote:
betterLawyerUP wrote:How do you guys represent A and B have at least two spots between them, regardless of order

So, A_ _ B with a switch but it needs to be altered to allow the possibility of being further apart. Feel free to share your symbol for this relationship (I have seen how some books do it but i didnt like their methods).
A_ _ ...B with a switch
+1
Under that I use JY's notation for at least ( two L's that semi overlap) and x amount of spaces min apart.

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Post by RZ5646 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:45 pm

betterLawyerUP wrote:How do you guys represent A and B have at least two spots between them, regardless of order

So, A_ _ B with a switch but it needs to be altered to allow the possibility of being further apart. Feel free to share your symbol for this relationship (I have seen how some books do it but i didnt like their methods).
When really weird / unusual rules appear I just make an effort to memorize them instead of trying to add them to my diagram using the standard notation. I might write something like "AB >= 2 sp" just to remind me.

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Post by TheProdigal » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:51 pm

betterLawyerUP wrote:How do you guys represent A and B have at least two spots between them, regardless of order

So, A_ _ B with a switch but it needs to be altered to allow the possibility of being further apart. Feel free to share your symbol for this relationship (I have seen how some books do it but i didnt like their methods).
A_ _+ B

I know that's from a book. Don't remember which one.

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Post by TheWalkingDebt » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:55 pm

I was ITT earlier when I saw posts by RZ and Jackel about measuring metrics of drill performance. The other day when I did my most recent PT I was wondering why there was no 7sage version for drills specifically. How do I know, other than gut feeling, how I am doing from one round of drills to the next. How can I quantify it?

It looked like both of them had pretty solid setups. I figured I'd take a crack at a more robust metric sheet (just from what I could see), since I had done pretty elaborate tracking for fundraising stuff for jobs before.

7 hours later......I may have taken it a bit too far. But I actually think it will per super helpful for quantifying my drill data (that was literally just sitting around otherwise). So H/T to RZ and JJ for the idea.

http://www.filedropper.com/lsatdrilltracker

It's got some of my data in there. I did not keep time on games, but put some fake times to make sure the formulas worked and translated properly. I figure if anyone else can benefit from it, might as well share it. If not, no harm no foul. I thought about putting graphs to be more illustrative with trends and will probably tweak it here and there (for instance, going to add a "Last 10 days" portion to gauge where I am trending versus my overall average). If anyone wants any help navigating where to enter data or anything let me know. General word of caution, I would not edit sheet names or anything like that.

also. hello to all the feb takers joining us in June.

ETA: just a heads up, everything is automated in that doc and you just need to enter info under the "breakout" tabs.
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