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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by jmjm » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:22 pm

Learn_Live_Hope wrote:
jmjm wrote:
bound wrote:
luke65 wrote: Hopefully I can "get very VERY motivated" today
Well, if it helps, I started thinking about how much I miss being in an academic setting and how I miss learning. It motivated me to get this studying going and get apps rolling!
that's pretty much what motivates me atm. being in workforce for a long time has made me appreciate the academic environment even more.
Sometimes I wonder if thats the reason why some schools prefer some working experience.
if i'd have to bet, i guess someone in workforce going back to school will be more motivated to do well. there's a bit of selection bias there.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by jmjm » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:34 pm

bound wrote:
Learn_Live_Hope wrote:
jmjm wrote: that's pretty much what motivates me atm. being in workforce for a long time has made me appreciate the academic environment even more.
Sometimes I wonder if thats the reason why some schools prefer some working experience.

And the fact that we'll actually have something to talk about in an interview at OCI :lol:
i have so much to talk about, only if i could get through this rc section :|

work experience has a negative effect of dulling the brain.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by bound » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:36 pm

jmjm wrote:
bound wrote:
Learn_Live_Hope wrote:
jmjm wrote: that's pretty much what motivates me atm. being in workforce for a long time has made me appreciate the academic environment even more.
Sometimes I wonder if thats the reason why some schools prefer some working experience.

And the fact that we'll actually have something to talk about in an interview at OCI :lol:
i have so much to talk about, only if i could get through this rc section :|

work experience has a negative effect of dulling the brain.

lol wut

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by Learn_Live_Hope » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:46 pm

jmjm wrote:
bound wrote:
Learn_Live_Hope wrote:
jmjm wrote: that's pretty much what motivates me atm. being in workforce for a long time has made me appreciate the academic environment even more.
Sometimes I wonder if thats the reason why some schools prefer some working experience.

And the fact that we'll actually have something to talk about in an interview at OCI :lol:
i have so much to talk about, only if i could get through this rc section :|

work experience has a negative effect of dulling the brain.
Keeping skills in mind-with the economy crashing, and people grabbing whatever comes their way just to pay bills I highly doubt they will get people with strong working experience that can contribute heavily to the interview at OCI.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by rebexness » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:50 pm

IDK I think there are plenty of people who have actual job skills. Mine will definitely help when interviewing, although its for sure a niche market.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by jmjm » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:52 pm

Learn_Live_Hope wrote: Keeping skills in mind-with the economy crashing, and people grabbing whatever comes their way just to pay bills I highly doubt they will get people with strong working experience that can contribute heavily to the interview at OCI.
true but top schools can be very choosy though. Not what you hear on tls but i think they can overlook poor lsat / gpa for interesting candidates. there are non urm yls wl and hls admit with lsat around 165 in the recent cycle.

that said, rc has begun to feel stubbornly non improvable to me.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by some1uknown » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:02 pm

Test 68
160
LR -14
RC -9
LG -4

Well, a slight 2 point up but I keep getting in the 158-160 range. Any tips for getting past this wall?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by rebexness » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:05 pm

some1uknown wrote:Test 68
160
LR -14
RC -9
LG -4

Well, a slight 2 point up but I keep getting in the 158-160 range. Any tips for getting past this wall?
Drill every LG. Then see what particular type of LR Qs are tripping you up most- use LSATQA if you aren't already. Drill their cambridge packets. RC can be unpredictable and imo takes longer to see real results on.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by berkeleynick » Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:55 pm

Is there anyone who still hasn't seriously started to study for the September LSAT yet? I know it's like 6ish weeks out, and I am getting anxious, but I prepped hard for the June LSAT and just didn't end up taking it. I am getting into this mode where I am feeling anxious and stressed out about how limited time is left...lol. Help!! Tell me I am not alone! Tell me there is hope!!

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Post by Learn_Live_Hope » Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:57 pm

berkeleynick wrote:Is there anyone who still hasn't seriously started to study for the September LSAT yet? I know it's like 6ish weeks out, and I am getting anxious, but I prepped hard for the June LSAT and just didn't end up taking it. I am getting into this mode where I am feeling anxious and stressed out about how limited time is left...lol. Help!! Tell me I am not alone! Tell me there is hope!!
There is hope!!! :)

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Post by sashafierce » Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:01 pm

Just took Superprep A

LR1 -5
RC -6
LR2 -4
LG -10 :oops:

My scaled score sucks but I am seeing improvement in LR and RC, I am still not fast enough to complete the sections in time but I am getting faster :)

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by ilikebaseball » Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:31 pm

PT20
LR-2
RC-4
LG-2
LR-1
173

That law passage was fucking abysmal. I still dont have a clue what it was talking about.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by Colonel_funkadunk » Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:45 pm

berkeleynick wrote:Is there anyone who still hasn't seriously started to study for the September LSAT yet? I know it's like 6ish weeks out, and I am getting anxious, but I prepped hard for the June LSAT and just didn't end up taking it. I am getting into this mode where I am feeling anxious and stressed out about how limited time is left...lol. Help!! Tell me I am not alone! Tell me there is hope!!
If you prepped hard for June, I'm sure you aren't in bad shape. I'd just start studying ASAP

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by berkeleynick » Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:50 pm

Learn_Live_Hope wrote:
berkeleynick wrote:Is there anyone who still hasn't seriously started to study for the September LSAT yet? I know it's like 6ish weeks out, and I am getting anxious, but I prepped hard for the June LSAT and just didn't end up taking it. I am getting into this mode where I am feeling anxious and stressed out about how limited time is left...lol. Help!! Tell me I am not alone! Tell me there is hope!!
There is hope!!! :)
And learning, and living! Lol.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by mmorrell94 » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:14 pm

Just took the free June 2007 test

LG: -2
LR: -2
LR: -2
RC: -3

for a scaled of 169. Down from my last (and highest) of 172, but I'm actually not feeling as bad about this as I thought I would. I went through everything I got wrong and all but two were very stupid mistakes, which again renews my faith that my drilling hasn't been a waste of time. I think I'm going to start doing 3 PTs a week now with the hope that I will improve under pressure and cut down on some of the foolish mistakes I'm making.

Happy studying.

Edit: Does anyone have any insight on Q15 from Section 4 (RC) of this test? I don't understand how A could possibly be better than B...A ignores the entire conclusion of the passage, and focuses only on the argument the passage uses to demonstrate that conclusion. I'm really very confused by this, and the MSLAT forums' explanation didn't convince me.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by Toby Ziegler » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:07 am

mmorrell94 wrote:Just took the free June 2007 test

LG: -2
LR: -2
LR: -2
RC: -3

for a scaled of 169. Down from my last (and highest) of 172, but I'm actually not feeling as bad about this as I thought I would. I went through everything I got wrong and all but two were very stupid mistakes, which again renews my faith that my drilling hasn't been a waste of time. I think I'm going to start doing 3 PTs a week now with the hope that I will improve under pressure and cut down on some of the foolish mistakes I'm making.

Happy studying.

Edit: Does anyone have any insight on Q15 from Section 4 (RC) of this test? I don't understand how A could possibly be better than B...A ignores the entire conclusion of the passage, and focuses only on the argument the passage uses to demonstrate that conclusion. I'm really very confused by this, and the MSLAT forums' explanation didn't convince me.
The curve on that test is nauseating.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by meeshellzswell » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:38 am

berkeleynick wrote:Is there anyone who still hasn't seriously started to study for the September LSAT yet? I know it's like 6ish weeks out, and I am getting anxious, but I prepped hard for the June LSAT and just didn't end up taking it. I am getting into this mode where I am feeling anxious and stressed out about how limited time is left...lol. Help!! Tell me I am not alone! Tell me there is hope!!
You're not alone! I'm just now starting and checking in here :D Considering switching my test date to December but as of now it's September. Glad to know I'm not the only one! haha

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by mmorrell94 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:58 am

Toby Ziegler wrote:
mmorrell94 wrote:Just took the free June 2007 test

LG: -2
LR: -2
LR: -2
RC: -3

for a scaled of 169. Down from my last (and highest) of 172, but I'm actually not feeling as bad about this as I thought I would. I went through everything I got wrong and all but two were very stupid mistakes, which again renews my faith that my drilling hasn't been a waste of time. I think I'm going to start doing 3 PTs a week now with the hope that I will improve under pressure and cut down on some of the foolish mistakes I'm making.

Happy studying.

Edit: Does anyone have any insight on Q15 from Section 4 (RC) of this test? I don't understand how A could possibly be better than B...A ignores the entire conclusion of the passage, and focuses only on the argument the passage uses to demonstrate that conclusion. I'm really very confused by this, and the MSLAT forums' explanation didn't convince me.
The curve on that test is nauseating.
Oh definitely. I felt ecstatic about my performance until I checked the scaling sheet and was rapidly and violently plummeted back down to earth.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by ilikebaseball » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:01 am

The speculation I've seen is that the curve in September is gonna be 13 or even 14... is that a valid assumption? or could it be shooting in the dark

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by cavalier2015 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:08 am

^^source?

if this turns out to be true, i'm going to hate sitting in my exam room and taking a fucking hard test.

i'm hoping a for easier LG than junes.

but on a serious note, don't bother with speculation.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by ilikebaseball » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:23 am

cavalier2015 wrote:^^source?

if this turns out to be true, i'm going to hate sitting in my exam room and taking a fucking hard test.

i'm hoping a for easier LG than junes.

but on a serious note, don't bother with speculation.
no source other than the people I study with. They evaluated the trends and said that the September curve is likely to be 13 or 14. Less people take the test in September, and this one is more than likely gonna be even less than Sep 2013.

So no real credibility, just fun to talk about

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by mmorrell94 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:32 am

ilikebaseball wrote:
cavalier2015 wrote:^^source?

if this turns out to be true, i'm going to hate sitting in my exam room and taking a fucking hard test.

i'm hoping a for easier LG than junes.

but on a serious note, don't bother with speculation.
no source other than the people I study with. They evaluated the trends and said that the September curve is likely to be 13 or 14. Less people take the test in September, and this one is more than likely gonna be even less than Sep 2013.

So no real credibility, just fun to talk about
Does less people usually indicate an easier curve?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Post by ilikebaseball » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:38 am

Well, for the most part, the most popular testing day is June. From what I've been told (not sourced, again) is that in September there are less people and a bunch of retakers (indicating unsatisfactory scores from June).

If you look at the history of the LSAT, the September/ October one has almost always been a tick or two more generous. This past June, it was -13. That would indicate that September will be -14. But one must also factor in that there was an extraordinary game (not saying it was hard... just different) in June which may attribute to the curve. Either way, I don't think its crazy to think that the curve is likely gonna be 13 or 14 just based on past trends.

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