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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by AOT » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:10 pm

Just printed out the September test and going to take it today after work. Hopefully taking it in calm conditions will give me a better idea about the mistakes I made because I really didn't know the right answers, and the ones I made because I was nervous as hell.

Also going the route of not telling any irl people I'm taking the LSAT again (other than my long suffering gf). Partly because of pride, but also because I'm superstitious and feel like the huge amount good luck people tried to send me last time actually jinxed it..

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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by secadc11 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:23 pm

Question for you all:

If you were only taking 10 - 12 timed PTs between now and Dec, which ones would you take?

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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by nlee10 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:26 pm

secadc11 wrote:Question for you all:

If you were only taking 10 - 12 timed PTs between now and Dec, which ones would you take?
The newer ones

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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by secadc11 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:26 pm

nlee10 wrote:
secadc11 wrote:Question for you all:

If you were only taking 10 - 12 timed PTs between now and Dec, which ones would you take?
The newer ones
Even if that meant they were all retakes?

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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by nlee10 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:39 pm

secadc11 wrote:
nlee10 wrote:
secadc11 wrote:Question for you all:

If you were only taking 10 - 12 timed PTs between now and Dec, which ones would you take?
The newer ones
Even if that meant they were all retakes?

Hmm, did you take all the 60+'s? I would add in some fresh ones even if they are from the Pt 30-50's and reuse a few 60's and 70's.

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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by GreenTee » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:41 pm

secadc11 wrote:
nlee10 wrote:
secadc11 wrote:Question for you all:

If you were only taking 10 - 12 timed PTs between now and Dec, which ones would you take?
The newer ones
Even if that meant they were all retakes?
I would retake the ones that you got the lowest scores on initially, and/or the tests that you did not review as extensively.

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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by Colonel_funkadunk » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:50 pm

BillPackets wrote:
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BillPackets wrote:I really like the tar Reggie circa 1996 in the eastern conference finals w the bulls ?
Thanks man, it's not every day I hear something positive about my Pacers. I think this was from the 94 ECF against the Knicks. But definitely remember the ECF series against the Bulls. Oh how I hate the Chicago Bulls. Michael Jordan ruined my childhood :evil: .
Reggie was still old school and was just a dirty fucking player like they used to be back in the day, dude has the most enviable shot of all time (better than ray Allen IMHO). But yeah I watched the pacers growing up and never really knew why I hated spike lee so much until I watched the 30 for 30 on Reggie

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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by BillPackets » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:18 am

I'm saving 73 for my last PT. Anyone doin the same

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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by secadc11 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:26 am

GreenTee wrote:
secadc11 wrote:
nlee10 wrote:
secadc11 wrote:Question for you all:

If you were only taking 10 - 12 timed PTs between now and Dec, which ones would you take?
The newer ones
Even if that meant they were all retakes?
I would retake the ones that you got the lowest scores on initially, and/or the tests that you did not review as extensively.
Thanks nlee and GreenTea. I'm going to have dig back through and find those ones I did the worst on. I think I still may have a few early 60s left so I'll check that too.

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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by GreenTee » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:29 am

BillPackets wrote:I'm saving 73 for my last PT. Anyone doin the same
Yup, I'm doing it on the Sunday before.

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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by sfoglia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:32 am

GreenTee wrote:
BillPackets wrote:I'm saving 73 for my last PT. Anyone doin the same
Yup, I'm doing it on the Sunday before.
I read from a few September re-takers that it could be demoralizing if you score not much better (as some did when retaking 72), and that you should take it a few weeks before to ensure bounce-back time?

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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by Shakawkaw » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:38 am

BillPackets wrote:I'm saving 73 for my last PT. Anyone doin the same
Still deciding on a final schedule. I was going to finish with 68 for dat confidence boost.

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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by GreenTee » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:29 am

sfoglia wrote:
GreenTee wrote:
BillPackets wrote:I'm saving 73 for my last PT. Anyone doin the same
Yup, I'm doing it on the Sunday before.
I read from a few September re-takers that it could be demoralizing if you score not much better (as some did when retaking 72), and that you should take it a few weeks before to ensure bounce-back time?
Part of my strategy this time around is to try to be as cold and unemotional as possible about PTs. (About everything, actually.) So I'm not placing any special significance on 73. If I don't see an increase, then that's just what my skill level was that day.
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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by Yeezus » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:30 am

BillPackets wrote:I'm saving 73 for my last PT. Anyone doin the same
I'm debating this myself. But I think I'll end up taking it with about a week or so to go. Depending on your confidence, I'd avoid taking it as the last PT, since getting a bad score on it could be demoralizing, as others have said.

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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by dontdoitkid » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:20 pm

BillPackets wrote:I'm saving 73 for my last PT. Anyone doin the same
Yup

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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by dontdoitkid » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:22 pm

GreenTee wrote:
sfoglia wrote:
GreenTee wrote:
BillPackets wrote:I'm saving 73 for my last PT. Anyone doin the same
Yup, I'm doing it on the Sunday before.
I read from a few September re-takers that it could be demoralizing if you score not much better (as some did when retaking 72), and that you should take it a few weeks before to ensure bounce-back time?
Part of my strategy this time around is to try to be as cold and unemotional as possible about PTs. (About everything, actually.) So I'm not placing any special significance on 73. If I don't see an increase, then that's just what my skill level was that day.
I'm doing something along the same lines for my prep, at least in terms of relaxing a little bit (not with my focus but with my attitude). It's hard to relax when you know how important it is so it's almost like trying to trick yourself into thinking it's not that big of a deal. Any tips on how you approach PTs staying cold/unemotional?

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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by BillPackets » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:37 pm

dontdoitkid wrote:I'm doing something along the same lines for my prep, at least in terms of relaxing a little bit (not with my focus but with my attitude). It's hard to relax when you know how important it is so it's almost like trying to trick yourself into thinking it's not that big of a deal. Any tips on how you approach PTs staying cold/unemotional?
im trying to approach things a little differently to. first, im taking review alot more seriously. before i def skirted BR'ing, and wasnt taking the time to get all the benefits from reviewing. so ive been doing less questions, and more reviewing of those questions.
secondly, ive been trying to follow the guidelines of "the testing effect", which if you havent, i recommend reading about. testing, reviewing, and thinking about what you're studying throughout the day. it's also kind of a "less is more" thing
thirdly, im taking a different approach to PTs. i read an interview with a former LSAT writer (im sure everyone has read that series) and he argued that drilling and reviewing is more important than actual PTing, and that diminishing returns set in pretty quickly from PTs. so, again, focusing more on drilling, reviewing.
I think im just going to try and get 10-12 Pts in before D-Day.

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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by GreenTee » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:47 pm

dontdoitkid wrote:
GreenTee wrote: Part of my strategy this time around is to try to be as cold and unemotional as possible about PTs. (About everything, actually.) So I'm not placing any special significance on 73. If I don't see an increase, then that's just what my skill level was that day.
I'm doing something along the same lines for my prep, at least in terms of relaxing a little bit (not with my focus but with my attitude). It's hard to relax when you know how important it is so it's almost like trying to trick yourself into thinking it's not that big of a deal. Any tips on how you approach PTs staying cold/unemotional?
Yeah, I mean obviously we can't just flip the "off" switch and emotionally detach from this test completely. But I'm trying to let go of a few things that I used to care way too much about. For example, the way I approached my test day routine. I would build up to my practice tests every week by trying to charge myself up emotionally, like the outcome of what I was about to do had this huge significance for the trajectory of my life. Of course, it's not wrong to see it that way. It's true, actually. I just think it does more harm than good to dwell on it.

So I'm trying to minimize the importance of the "little" (read: irrational) things that I tended to let affect my performance more than they should. If I score under my target on a PT (or on the real test, for that matter), I want it to be because I didn't drill hard enough. Not because I was nervous or tired or emotionally "off." So my approach this time is just to do the work, without letting it affect me psychologically.

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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by westy822 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:51 pm

Do you guys have any suggestions for simulating the pressure of taking the actual test? I do great on PT's, but on both of actual LSAT's I've taken I scored about ten points below my average. I've heard that doing questions out loud with other people is a good way to simulate the stress/pressure of the actual test. Any other suggestions?

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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by nlee10 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:54 pm

westy822 wrote:Do you guys have any suggestions for simulating the pressure of taking the actual test? I do great on PT's, but on both of actual LSAT's I've taken I scored about ten points below my average. I've heard that doing questions out loud with other people is a good way to simulate the stress/pressure of the actual test. Any other suggestions?
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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by Hand » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:58 pm

schmelling wrote:
BillPackets wrote:
dontdoitkid wrote:I'm doing something along the same lines for my prep, at least in terms of relaxing a little bit (not with my focus but with my attitude). It's hard to relax when you know how important it is so it's almost like trying to trick yourself into thinking it's not that big of a deal. Any tips on how you approach PTs staying cold/unemotional?
im trying to approach things a little differently to. first, im taking review alot more seriously. before i def skirted BR'ing, and wasnt taking the time to get all the benefits from reviewing. so ive been doing less questions, and more reviewing of those questions.
secondly, ive been trying to follow the guidelines of "the testing effect", which if you havent, i recommend reading about. testing, reviewing, and thinking about what you're studying throughout the day. it's also kind of a "less is more" thing
thirdly, im taking a different approach to PTs. i read an interview with a former LSAT writer (im sure everyone has read that series) and he argued that drilling and reviewing is more important than actual PTing, and that diminishing returns set in pretty quickly from PTs. so, again, focusing more on drilling, reviewing.
I think im just going to try and get 10-12 Pts in before D-Day.
FWIW, I did less than 20 PTs to prep for september and most of those were in the last 4 weeks. The rest was drilling, reviewing.
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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by BillPackets » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:59 pm

schmelling wrote:FWIW, I did less than 20 PTs to prep for september and most of those were in the last 4 weeks. The rest was drilling, reviewing.
schmelly what did u cop i forget (unless you didnt poast i really dk)

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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by dontdoitkid » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:00 pm

westy822 wrote:Do you guys have any suggestions for simulating the pressure of taking the actual test? I do great on PT's, but on both of actual LSAT's I've taken I scored about ten points below my average. I've heard that doing questions out loud with other people is a good way to simulate the stress/pressure of the actual test. Any other suggestions?
7sage and public places as well, to simulate the inevitable proctor that won't stop whispering (I'm never sitting front row again).

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Re: December 2014 RE-takers Thread

Post by BillPackets » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:04 pm

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