The Official June 2015 Study Group Forum

santoki · Post by **santoki** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:04 pm

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Shemp · Post by **Shemp** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:04 pm

I got a 175 in February and am probably going to retake because that's far enough below my averages that it doesn't reflect my best effort. I chose 176-180 in the poll because my last preptest was a 180 on Friday February 6.

Shakawkaw · Post by **Shakawkaw** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:07 pm

santoki wrote:rigo = ~~frank~~ Freddy
shak = Claire and Frank

this makes sense on a number of levels perhaps

FTFY.

Smallville · Post by **Smallville** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:07 pm

Shemp wrote:I got a 175 in February and am probably going to retake because that's far enough below my averages that it doesn't reflect my best effort. I chose 176-180 in the poll because my last preptest was a 180 on Friday February 6.

175 =/ 176

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:07 pm

Shemp wrote:I got a 175 in February and am probably going to retake because that's far enough below my averages that it doesn't reflect my best effort. I chose 176-180 in the poll because my last preptest was a 180 on Friday February 6.

Humble brag.

JackelJ · Post by **JackelJ** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:07 pm

nlee10 wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:Is the Trainer any good for RC? Everyone says the LG part is useless and what I read of the LR part seemed pretty meh.
RC isn't too bad. I would just use the Trainer for LR+RC and 7Sage for LG.

+1

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:07 pm

santoki wrote:rigo = frank
shak = claire

this makes sense on a number of levels perhaps

No idea what this is even referring to, but okay.

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:09 pm

Is there really any advantage to retaking a 175 though? Let's say you get 180. Would your options really improve much? At all?

Shemp · Post by **Shemp** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:10 pm

I'm not super interested in law school, I just like tests.

santoki · Post by **santoki** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:10 pm

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sfoglia · Post by **sfoglia** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:11 pm

Shemp wrote:I got a 175 in February and am probably going to retake because that's far enough below my averages that it doesn't reflect my best effort. I chose 176-180 in the poll because my last preptest was a 180 on Friday February 6.

I'm sorry you scored lower than your average. Doubly worse for the 180 performance the day before.

But, if you decide to retake, can we be study partners? If you decide you have any interest in tracking one another's progress/motivating eachother, PM me. I'll send you my stats.

20170322 · Post by **20170322** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:11 pm

So, I keep thinking about taking in June, and I keep getting more and more conflicted.

What's a good date to definitively decide? (ie. when is the last possible point I can decide and still reasonably believe the testing center has an open seat)

sfoglia · Post by **sfoglia** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:11 pm

Shemp wrote:I'm not super interested in law school, I just like tests.

Have you considered tutoring, then?

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:12 pm

RZ5646 wrote:Is there really any advantage to retaking a 175 though? Let's say you get 180. Would your options really improve much? At all?

Maybe a better shot at a Hamilton or Ruby or better scholly if you're a splitter, but beyond that, not really.

sfoglia · Post by **sfoglia** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:13 pm

Dirigo wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:Is there really any advantage to retaking a 175 though? Let's say you get 180. Would your options really improve much? At all?
Maybe a better shot at a Hamilton or Ruby or better scholly if you're a splitter, but beyond that, not really.

Really? I'm surprised that retaking and scoring a 180 wouldn't have serious impact, even for a non-splitter.

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:14 pm

sfoglia wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:Is there really any advantage to retaking a 175 though? Let's say you get 180. Would your options really improve much? At all?
Maybe a better shot at a Hamilton or Ruby or better scholly if you're a splitter, but beyond that, not really.
Really? I'm surprised that retaking and scoring a 180 wouldn't have serious impact, even for a non-splitter.

What kind of serious admissions impact are you envisioning?

nlee10 · Post by **nlee10** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:15 pm

SweetTort wrote:So, I keep thinking about taking in June, and I keep getting more and more conflicted.

What's a good date to definitively decide? (ie. when is the last possible point I can decide and still reasonably believe the testing center has an open seat)

I would say it really depends on where you live and how good/bad that TC is. Once I got my feb score I immediately signed up for June since I really liked my TC.

sfoglia · Post by **sfoglia** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:16 pm

Dirigo wrote:
sfoglia wrote:
Dirigo wrote: Maybe a better shot at a Hamilton or Ruby or better scholly if you're a splitter, but beyond that, not really.
Really? I'm surprised that retaking and scoring a 180 wouldn't have serious impact, even for a non-splitter.
What kind of serious admissions impact are you envisioning?

The kind that puts you over the edge for Yale and Stanford.

CambrianExplosives · Post by **CambrianExplosives** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:16 pm

sfoglia wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:Is there really any advantage to retaking a 175 though? Let's say you get 180. Would your options really improve much? At all?
Maybe a better shot at a Hamilton or Ruby or better scholly if you're a splitter, but beyond that, not really.
Really? I'm surprised that retaking and scoring a 180 wouldn't have serious impact, even for a non-splitter.

Assuming the a lot of the LSAT's impact comes from raising the median of a school (which I think is a strong assumption) then there is very little difference between 175 and 179. No school really thinks they are going to get a median of 176+, which would be the only reason it would make a difference.

There's a possibility that a 180 will stand out since its perfect, but 175 isn't going to do any less for their medians than 179 will.

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:19 pm

sfoglia wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
sfoglia wrote:
Dirigo wrote: Maybe a better shot at a Hamilton or Ruby or better scholly if you're a splitter, but beyond that, not really.
Really? I'm surprised that retaking and scoring a 180 wouldn't have serious impact, even for a non-splitter.
What kind of serious admissions impact are you envisioning?
The kind that puts you over the edge for Yale and Stanford.

Eh. Kind of odd to cite the two schools that would care least about the difference between a 175 and a 180 when they're probably more concerned with cherry picking strong soft candidates at that level.

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:20 pm

If non-splitter, I would argue that the difference between a 175 and 180 actually matters way less at HYS than it would at CCN since that five point difference would matter more for merit aid than it would admissions.

Shemp · Post by **Shemp** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:21 pm

sfoglia wrote:
Shemp wrote:I'm not super interested in law school, I just like tests.
Have you considered tutoring, then?

I think I should probably hook up with one of the big national companies and learn at least a little about teaching before I consider doing it as a career. When I sat for the test, it was the first time I'd even been inside a classroom since 2000. For all I know, I'm allergic to air conditioning.

rpupkin · Post by **rpupkin** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:21 pm

sfoglia wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
sfoglia wrote:
Dirigo wrote: Maybe a better shot at a Hamilton or Ruby or better scholly if you're a splitter, but beyond that, not really.
Really? I'm surprised that retaking and scoring a 180 wouldn't have serious impact, even for a non-splitter.
What kind of serious admissions impact are you envisioning?
The kind that puts you over the edge for Yale and Stanford.

In contrast to just about every other law school, there's anecdotal evidence that retaking the LSAT can hurt you at YLS. Not sure about SLS. I think retaking a 175 is all downside.

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:25 pm

sfoglia wrote: What kind of serious admissions impact are you envisioning?
The kind that puts you over the edge for Yale and Stanford.

That would be prestigious work experience, curing cancer, etc., not a couple of LSAT points. There's a reason why SLS's median is so low.

sfoglia · Post by **sfoglia** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:27 pm

Dirigo wrote: Eh. Kind of odd to cite the two schools that would care least about the difference between a 175 and a 180 when they're probably more concerned with cherry picking strong soft candidates at that level.

I would imagine that if you had two identical applications, both with 175, but one retook and received, say, a 179, that would be the more desirable candidate. This is what I am wondering.