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get a little sauced.
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Post by proteinshake » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:36 am

TheMikey wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
TheMikey wrote:Going to do dreadful parallel reasoning questions today. 7sage lessons then some drilling.

I hate parallel reasoning and parallel flaw questions.. They're so damn time consuming.. :roll:
the best thing you can do to parallel questions is go faster on the other question types :lol: :lol:
Yeah, definitely. I usually leave them for last in full sections or a PT. I figure since they're time consuming, if I don't have time at the end then fuck it and guess since the question itself is meant to drain your time anyways.
yeah usually timing is the problem, not a conceptual understanding of the q type, so if you can move faster on the other questions you should have sufficient time for the parallel q.

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Post by Mikey » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:41 am

proteinshake wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
TheMikey wrote:Going to do dreadful parallel reasoning questions today. 7sage lessons then some drilling.

I hate parallel reasoning and parallel flaw questions.. They're so damn time consuming.. :roll:
the best thing you can do to parallel questions is go faster on the other question types :lol: :lol:
Yeah, definitely. I usually leave them for last in full sections or a PT. I figure since they're time consuming, if I don't have time at the end then fuck it and guess since the question itself is meant to drain your time anyways.
yeah usually timing is the problem, not a conceptual understanding of the q type, so if you can move faster on the other questions you should have sufficient time for the parallel q.
Yeah for sure. I did some drilling on principle questions yesterday (about 15ish questions?) and they were considered the easier ones so I followed the whole "pick the answer that you pre-phrase and move onto the next question without looking at the other A/C's" thing. I figured I'd try it during drilling like I will on a full section but for the first 10 or whatever. I obviously blind reviewed all questions and but this did help for timing, a lot actually. Before BR, I got 1 question wrong and it was because I chose B, but the right answer was E, but B and E both were similar except for a very very slight difference, which is why I got it wrong but caught it on BR. That was the only ehh moment I had with that method of not looking at the other A/C's.

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Post by YupSports » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:43 am

proteinshake wrote:
TheMikey wrote:Going to do dreadful parallel reasoning questions today. 7sage lessons then some drilling.

I hate parallel reasoning and parallel flaw questions.. They're so damn time consuming.. :roll:
the best thing you can do to parallel questions is go faster on the other question types :lol: :lol:
Without a doubt my least favorite question type.

Will be doing the 7Sage lesson on them here in the next few days; sooooo excited :roll: .

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Post by proteinshake » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:43 am

TheMikey wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
TheMikey wrote:Going to do dreadful parallel reasoning questions today. 7sage lessons then some drilling.

I hate parallel reasoning and parallel flaw questions.. They're so damn time consuming.. :roll:
the best thing you can do to parallel questions is go faster on the other question types :lol: :lol:
Yeah, definitely. I usually leave them for last in full sections or a PT. I figure since they're time consuming, if I don't have time at the end then fuck it and guess since the question itself is meant to drain your time anyways.
yeah usually timing is the problem, not a conceptual understanding of the q type, so if you can move faster on the other questions you should have sufficient time for the parallel q.
Yeah for sure. I did some drilling on principle questions yesterday (about 15ish questions?) and they were considered the easier ones so I followed the whole "pick the answer that you pre-phrase and move onto the next question without looking at the other A/C's" thing. I figured I'd try it during drilling like I will on a full section but for the first 10 or whatever. I obviously blind reviewed all questions and but this did help for timing, a lot actually. Before BR, I got 1 question wrong and it was because I chose B, but the right answer was E, but B and E both were similar except for a very very slight difference, which is why I got it wrong but caught it on BR. That was the only ehh moment I had with that method of not looking at the other A/C's.
sometimes I'll read the other answer choices but only the first few words. sometimes you can tell an answer choice is not related to the argument just by looking at the first few words.

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Post by Mikey » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:47 am

YupSports wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
TheMikey wrote:Going to do dreadful parallel reasoning questions today. 7sage lessons then some drilling.

I hate parallel reasoning and parallel flaw questions.. They're so damn time consuming.. :roll:
the best thing you can do to parallel questions is go faster on the other question types :lol: :lol:
Without a doubt my least favorite question type.

Will be doing the 7Sage lesson on them here in the next few days; sooooo excited :roll: .
J.Y does a good job at making it look somewhat manageable. My "Lawgic" is a bit rusty but nonetheless I'm understanding his way of doing these questions.

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Post by YupSports » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:50 am

TheMikey wrote:
YupSports wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
TheMikey wrote:Going to do dreadful parallel reasoning questions today. 7sage lessons then some drilling.

I hate parallel reasoning and parallel flaw questions.. They're so damn time consuming.. :roll:
the best thing you can do to parallel questions is go faster on the other question types :lol: :lol:
Without a doubt my least favorite question type.

Will be doing the 7Sage lesson on them here in the next few days; sooooo excited :roll: .
J.Y does a good job at making it look somewhat manageable. My "Lawgic" is a bit rusty but nonetheless I'm understanding his way of doing these questions.
It will be good to see how he breaks them down; when I first did 7Sage I skipped this section because I can intuitively get the right answer 95% of the time. The drawback is, though, that it takes me forever and I would love to speed up that process.

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Post by Mikey » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:54 am

YupSports wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
YupSports wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
TheMikey wrote:Going to do dreadful parallel reasoning questions today. 7sage lessons then some drilling.

I hate parallel reasoning and parallel flaw questions.. They're so damn time consuming.. :roll:
the best thing you can do to parallel questions is go faster on the other question types :lol: :lol:
Without a doubt my least favorite question type.

Will be doing the 7Sage lesson on them here in the next few days; sooooo excited :roll: .
J.Y does a good job at making it look somewhat manageable. My "Lawgic" is a bit rusty but nonetheless I'm understanding his way of doing these questions.
It will be good to see how he breaks them down; when I first did 7Sage I skipped this section because I can intuitively get the right answer 95% of the time. The drawback is, though, that it takes me forever and I would love to speed up that process.
Same! My way of doing it before took me forever to do, but I would get the right answer. I think that's why I didn't even have time to finish parallel questions on my June take, because my way of doing them took so long. I mean these questions take long anyways, but I feel like the way he does it, he makes them go slightly faster.

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Post by Mikey » Sun Jul 03, 2016 10:40 am

Obsessively sipping on my iced coffee instead of focusing on this parallel reasoning question lesson. I fucking hate these questions, ugh.

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Post by 34iplaw » Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:10 am

TheMikey wrote:Obsessively sipping on my iced coffee instead of focusing on this parallel reasoning question lesson. I fucking hate these questions, ugh.
Good on you for getting at it. I'm sitting in bed still watching garbage TV with the bully snoring like crazy.

I'm setting 11:30 for the beginning of RC.

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Post by proteinshake » Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:12 am

gonna go to the gym and get a workout in. I usually don't go on Sunday but I've noticed that I can study for much longer on days that I workout.

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Post by Mikey » Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:18 am

34iplaw wrote:
TheMikey wrote:Obsessively sipping on my iced coffee instead of focusing on this parallel reasoning question lesson. I fucking hate these questions, ugh.
Good on you for getting at it. I'm sitting in bed still watching garbage TV with the bully snoring like crazy.

I'm setting 11:30 for the beginning of RC.
Thanks. RC? How fun! (easily spotted sarcasm, lul sorry)

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Post by 34iplaw » Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:24 am

TheMikey wrote:
34iplaw wrote:
TheMikey wrote:Obsessively sipping on my iced coffee instead of focusing on this parallel reasoning question lesson. I fucking hate these questions, ugh.
Good on you for getting at it. I'm sitting in bed still watching garbage TV with the bully snoring like crazy.

I'm setting 11:30 for the beginning of RC.
Thanks. RC? How fun! (easily spotted sarcasm, lul sorry)
Haha - it's fine. I'm in the process of aiming for 100% accuracy over speed currently. I finished my diagnostic RC three or four minutes early, so it's about just making sure I get everything right and working back up to speed. It's more about making sure I have the processes down rather than sort of 'winging it.'

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Post by proteinshake » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:31 pm

this 40+ year old guy at the gym I know knows I'm applying to law school in the fall and when I see him he yell "DID YOU GET INTO HARVARD YET??" :lol:

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Post by Deardevil » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:37 pm

proteinshake wrote:this 40+ year old guy at the gym I know knows I'm applying to law school in the fall and when I see him he yell "DID YOU GET INTO HARVARD YET??" :lol:
Might be a drug dealer requiring your professional skills in case of a police raid in the future. Stay in contact.

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Post by proteinshake » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:38 pm

Deardevil wrote:
proteinshake wrote:this 40+ year old guy at the gym I know knows I'm applying to law school in the fall and when I see him he yell "DID YOU GET INTO HARVARD YET??" :lol:
Might be a drug dealer requiring your professional skills in case of a police raid in the future. Stay in contact.
he's a cop lol

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Post by Barack O'Drama » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:41 pm

proteinshake wrote:
Deardevil wrote:
proteinshake wrote:this 40+ year old guy at the gym I know knows I'm applying to law school in the fall and when I see him he yell "DID YOU GET INTO HARVARD YET??" :lol:
Might be a drug dealer requiring your professional skills in case of a police raid in the future. Stay in contact.
he's a cop lol

Haha! That's awesome
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Post by Deardevil » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:42 pm

proteinshake wrote:
Deardevil wrote:
proteinshake wrote:this 40+ year old guy at the gym I know knows I'm applying to law school in the fall and when I see him he yell "DID YOU GET INTO HARVARD YET??" :lol:
Might be a drug dealer requiring your professional skills in case of a police raid in the future. Stay in contact.
he's a cop lol
But that would be assuming he won't someday go undercover... Flaw in the reasoning!

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Post by proteinshake » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:45 pm

Deardevil wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
Deardevil wrote:
proteinshake wrote:this 40+ year old guy at the gym I know knows I'm applying to law school in the fall and when I see him he yell "DID YOU GET INTO HARVARD YET??" :lol:
Might be a drug dealer requiring your professional skills in case of a police raid in the future. Stay in contact.
he's a cop lol
But that would be assuming he won't someday go undercover... Flaw in the reasoning!
:o :o :o

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Post by 34iplaw » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:52 pm

proteinshake wrote:
Deardevil wrote:
proteinshake wrote:this 40+ year old guy at the gym I know knows I'm applying to law school in the fall and when I see him he yell "DID YOU GET INTO HARVARD YET??" :lol:
Might be a drug dealer requiring your professional skills in case of a police raid in the future. Stay in contact.
he's a cop lol
Flawed reasoning! You assumed the two categories are mutually exclusive when there is no indication that they are!

http://nypost.com/2016/03/24/officer-ch ... as-inmate/

http://nypost.com/2014/12/03/former-cop ... g-charges/

There was also something about the whole police department in Southampton NY. Some of them got charged with selling drugs or something, and, coincidentally, apparently a whole slew of cash and drugs were missing from the police lockup.

Three passages done. I think I'm just going to polish the last three today.

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Post by proteinshake » Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:02 pm

let me rephrase: he PROBABLY isn't a drug dealer since he's a cop. better?

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Post by no exit » Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:33 pm

sup folks, checking in cause we've got 12 more weeks of studying and misery loves company.

took first PT (Sept 07) last week after ~1 month of reading PS bibles/drilling. went -4 LR, -4 LR, -4 RC, -0 LG for -12 total, 88 raw, 169.

i'm pretty hyped about the -0 LG, since most of the last month was devoted to getting the games close to perfect. thought i was doing better than -8 combined on LR, but since it was my first PT i might chalk up some of that to fatigue. either way, i still definitely need to commit some more time to LR and RC drilling and making sure LG is automatic.

goal is mid 170s on test day, but honestly would be happy with 170+. plan is to do 2 PTs a week for the next 12 weeks leading up to the exam, total of 25 full PTs by sept 24th, with review/weakness identification/drilling on the days in between PTs. any tips on improving LR and RC? should i still focus a lot on drilling or should i expect to see decent improvement just from taking the PTs?

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Post by Alexandros » Sun Jul 03, 2016 2:05 pm

So I was not expecting today's PT to go very well and, low and behold, it didn't. I feel like my time would have been better spent doing more drilling, but with work and travel plans I won't have a chunk of time to do a morning PT again for a while. At risk of sounding like I'm trying to make excuses for myself, I felt totally off this morning (still do) - really weird, foggy and lightheaded; almost quit midway through.

LR: -2
RC: -5. Couldn't register the content at all, took ten minutes for the first - 5 q- passage lollll, and left myself 4 minutes for the entire final passage. Kind of surprised it didn't go worse.
LR2 : -3
LG: -2
Raw: 88
Scaled: 167 (my [un]lucky number again woo!!)

I promised myself I wouldn't let a low score kill my motivation, so trying to hold to that. aside from RC, the rest are more or less what I've been drilling at for the past few days, so I can't complain. Going back to square one and doing intense LR and LG drilling, really really going to try to get those sections to a consistent 0/-1 (and get them them to stay there this time.)

Two steps forward, one step back. Gah. Going to take a walk and / or nap then do some more drilling this evening. Happy Sunday / 4th of July weekend everyone!

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Post by imran.malek » Sun Jul 03, 2016 2:15 pm

Just tried the logic games from PT 40.. that Zephyr airlines question absolutely murdered my time - clearly I've got to get back on the horse for LGs!

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Post by 34iplaw » Sun Jul 03, 2016 2:22 pm

Finished first part...off to grab lunch and delve into games. I think the latter half of my schedule may have been ambitious, but, as of now, I'm 78/80 on this HW's MBT [20 to go] and -1 on the first 15 passages. These were focused on accuracy rather than speed.

I was a little hesitant on posting this and getting trucked by the last 3 passages and last 20 MBT.

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Post by Alexandros » Sun Jul 03, 2016 2:24 pm

Screw it. aside from continuing to do regular RC drilling, I'm going to worry about that section later. Getting LR and LG to zeros, because I know I can. RC will hopefully come. not going to freak out about RC at the expense of the other 3/4 of the test, not worth it.

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